Congressional math

[SocialDemocrat61]

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[lame54]

1. Repugs in the minority...

Stall and block all the time
Do what they do

[Wiz Imp]

3. Please provide documented evidence that Republicans stalled and blocked more successfully

as the minority party than what the Democrats have done. Please be specific.

I'll help you out to start. Last year Congress passed less legislation than any other Congress in history. That's a point in favor of the Democrats, not the Republicans.

[mr715]

2. Read all the comments

They seem to disagree.

[SocialDemocrat61]

4. So?

Math is math. Everyone can disagree that 2+2=4, but that doesn't make them right.

[mr715]

5. Math is math

Hopefully people do not disagree that 2+2 = 4.

[SocialDemocrat61]

6. Well some don't understand

218 is greater than 213 and 53 is greater than 47.

[mr715]

7. I don't dispute math

I do dispute tactics and strategy.

[SocialDemocrat61]

8. Tactics and strategy are useless

without actual power. You can field an army with the best tactics and strategy, but if they have no weapons, they’re going to lose.

[mr715]

9. Well, waging a war without weapons...

is pretty bad tactics.

[SocialDemocrat61]

11. And the minority party in congress

has no power, hence no weapons.

[mr715]

13. But members do have power

Admittedly soft, but still very real.

[SocialDemocrat61]

14. What power?

Can they pass laws? Do they have subpoena power? Can they call congressional hearings?

[mr715]

15. In the Senate

they can force the Republicans to change the rules and get rid of the filibuster.

In the House, they have a pulpit and can talk to their constituents.

[SocialDemocrat61]

16. Why would we want to get rid of the filibuster

when republicans are in the majority? Seems counter productive.

Also, representatives make speeches all the time, turn on c span at night.

[mr715]

17. Speeches on C-Span?

No - go home, talk to your constituents.

Get rid of the filibuster because it is antithetical to progress. If the GOP has a governing majority, let them use it. Let's see how they vote.

[SocialDemocrat61]

18. Who says they aren't?

And the GOP does have a majority, it’s not an if. But take away the only small bit of leverage that democrats have.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. "What are the Congressional Democrats going to do" is a legitimate question, IMO. What are they going to do when they

win, when the math DOES math? How WOULD they meet the moment if the math was mathing?

[SocialDemocrat61]

12. Ask them then

In the meantime the math is the math whether we like it or not.