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Gato Moteado

(10,092 posts)
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 03:19 PM 12 hrs ago

as a NATO signatory, launching an invasion of another NATO country or territory in order to seize land.....

...would be illegal under NATO treaty law, under the UN Charter and under U.S. constitutional and statutory law.

if trump orders the military to invade greenland, it would be an unlawful order. the military must refuse that order.

after a small amount of research, this is how i understand it. does anyone else have a different take?

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as a NATO signatory, launching an invasion of another NATO country or territory in order to seize land..... (Original Post) Gato Moteado 12 hrs ago OP
I agree, and the JCOS agree, but the more important question is Fiendish Thingy 11 hrs ago #1
If I am remembering correctly... -misanthroptimist 11 hrs ago #2
i think we need mark kelly and friends to start posting more videos! Gato Moteado 11 hrs ago #4
Got a visual on the situation. Kid Berwyn 11 hrs ago #3
Putin's plan. Destroy NATO usonian 4 hrs ago #5

Fiendish Thingy

(22,181 posts)
1. I agree, and the JCOS agree, but the more important question is
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 03:36 PM
11 hrs ago

Will the Yes Men JAGS that Hegseth has installed also agree?

They are the ones who write the legal opinions that give troops cover to obey potentially unlawful orders, as was done with the attacks on the boats in the Caribbean.

-misanthroptimist

(1,571 posts)
2. If I am remembering correctly...
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 03:54 PM
11 hrs ago

Treaties are co-equal with the US Constitution. If that's the case, you are absolutely and unambiguously correct. Such an order would be illegal. Anyone obeying it is subjecting themselves to the possibility of legal action.

Gato Moteado

(10,092 posts)
4. i think we need mark kelly and friends to start posting more videos!
Fri Jan 16, 2026, 04:02 PM
11 hrs ago

as well as every US military veteran to do the same.

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