Big Banks and FBI worked together vs Occupy

[zeos3]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy


It was more sophisticated than we had imagined: new documents show that the violent crackdown on Occupy last fall – so mystifying at the time – was not just coordinated at the level of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and local police. The crackdown, which involved, as you may recall, violent arrests, group disruption, canister missiles to the skulls of protesters, people held in handcuffs so tight they were injured, people held in bondage till they were forced to wet or soil themselves –was coordinated with the big banks themselves.

The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, in a groundbreaking scoop that should once more shame major US media outlets (why are nonprofits now some of the only entities in America left breaking major civil liberties news?), filed this request. The document – reproduced here in an easily searchable format – shows a terrifying network of coordinated DHS, FBI, police, regional fusion center, and private-sector activity so completely merged into one another that the monstrous whole is, in fact, one entity: in some cases, bearing a single name, the Domestic Security Alliance Council. And it reveals this merged entity to have one centrally planned, locally executed mission. The documents, in short, show the cops and DHS working for and with banks to target, arrest, and politically disable peaceful American citizens.

The documents, released after long delay in the week between Christmas and New Year, show a nationwide meta-plot unfolding in city after city in an Orwellian world: six American universities are sites where campus police funneled information about students involved with OWS to the FBI, with the administrations' knowledge (p51); banks sat down with FBI officials to pool information about OWS protesters harvested by private security; plans to crush Occupy events, planned for a month down the road, were made by the FBI – and offered to the representatives of the same organizations that the protests would target; and even threats of the assassination of OWS leaders by sniper fire – by whom? Where? – now remain redacted and undisclosed to those American citizens in danger, contrary to standard FBI practice to inform the person concerned when there is a threat against a political leader (p61).

[rhett o rick]

1. And a lot of posters here in DU side with the banks and FBI against Occupy.

And they call themselves "politically liberal people".

[zeos3]

5. Right. I've never understood this. n/t

[newfie11]

17. Me either nt

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

21. not buying into Wolf's tinfoil hattery does not equal siding with the banks

OWS died because of pisspoor organizing, and a failure to do anything other than embody every bad stereotype about demonstrations.

The original issues, which were valid, were lost long before the protests collapsed.

This latest effort by Wolf to explain it all away as some sort of Obama-ordered conspiracy is just sad.

[sabrina 1]

22. OWS is alive and well and growing every day across the world. They have their

own media, thankfully and are busy fighting for people against the Banks, and winning in many cases, buying property, buying up millions of dollars worth of student debt and paying it off, taking care of the victims of Sandy all over the east coast and joining with other organizations also, swelling their numbers as they do more for the people than Congress has done in the past decade.

They have also been scoring victory after victory in the courts and are involved in activities too numerous to post here. We don't bother posting on internet forums like this anymore. The Social Media is the best place for a Social Movement as big as OWS and much easier to coordinate with OWS in other countries. It's one of the most exciting developments of the past couple of years, and still in its infancy yet so successful already.

Where have you been?

[Le Taz Hot]

25. Thank you.

Don't you just love all these people decrying the death of the OWS movement? I'm not even on social media and *I* know at least some of what they're doing (thanks to DU).

[sabrina 1]

48. Yes, and they've been announcing this since the very first weekend

over one year ago airc. But you have to wonder, why would any democrat not be supportive of a movement that was so badly needed after the Global collapse of the world's economies? Aside from how wrong they have been, that is what I cannot figure out.

[rhett o rick]

24. And some Democrats disparaged them from the beginning. Showing no sympathy for peaceful protestors

being brutalized and tortured. Instead siding with the bankers and Republicans. That's what is sad. Using the rationalization that Occupy was disorganized and dirty.

[Zorra]

39. You mean the Third Way type bankster trolls?

This internet is totally crawling with them.

They most likely have way more anti-Occupy and anti-Anonymous posts than they do anti-GOP posts.

[rhett o rick]

44. The Corporate Wing of the Pary. DU has lots and they are actively trying to purge

DU of anyone that wont pledge allegiance to their centrist (rightist) ideologies. If you ask them what they stand for they will refuse to answer.

[tama]

28. Give away

Declaring (totally contrafactually) OWS dead is clear tell and wishfull thinking. Yes, it's no secret that Democratic Party and Obama are also owned by banksters, but that truth hurts too much so denial is better and hoping OWS is dead.

You pick your sides, you make clear where you stand. With the Banks, against People.

[rhett o rick]

34. The corporatist wing of the Democratic Party have their fingers in their ears and

their eyes closed, screaming "Occupy is Dead, Occupy is Dead, and dont tell me otherwise."

[tama]

53. That can vary individually

What is clear that when they couldn't hug it to dead by turning it to their Tea Party - and how much they tried! - they decided to try to kill it by police state measures against the camps and then "denial" propaganda.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. They are dead?

News to me, since they're damn active where I live.

[ananda]

45. Not me.

Occupy!

[rhett o rick]

47. Occupy

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

2. Thanks for the link and article.

This seems reminiscent of some word and definition that I remember from some country in Europe.

It has to do with what happens when the government and corporations become one and work towards some goal.

Now what was that word...hmmmmmm...

[zeos3]

6. You're welcome.

You must be thinking of those goddamn socialist, communist, leftist, socialistcommunists!!!!11!! That's the worst thing to have EVER come out of Europe!!

(Sarcasm)

[davekriss]

9. Just in case

He's thinking of Mussolini's definition of fascism. We are a neo-fascist nation.

[tavalon]

16. We knew that

but thanks for spelling it out for the lurkers and trolls. Oh, and thanks for spelling it right!

[Fumesucker]

3. "Assassination of OWS leaders by sniper fire"

Decapitation is part of standard US military strategy.

Now go back and see who was moaning that OWS needed LEAAAAADEERRRRSSS..

[zeos3]

7. Disturbing to read, wasn't it? n/t

[Luminous Animal]

13. Have the FBI made any arrests? Certainly we hear about the "terrorist" plots of their own making...

but why have we heard nothing about this terrorist plot against peaceful U.S. citizens.

[tama]

29. Yup

http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/fbi-raid-anarchist-literature-portland-seattle/6267/

[JoeyT]

18. Would it have been

the same people that insisted federal involvement in the crackdown was conspiracy theory on par with trutherism? It seems like it might have been.

[sabrina 1]

23. Yes, that was always very revealing, those who pretended not to understand

the concept of a leaderless movement. I love the way OWS is expanding and evolving into the next phase all over the world, and how it outdid its own expectations of being around for only a week or two. It shows there was a vacuum that needed to be filled.

All Social Justice movements face this kind of opposition for some reason but in the end they have always prevailed, even if it took years before doing so. OWS is still in its infancy but has accomplished more for ordinary people than Congress who did not save a single family's home from corrupt bankers.

Btw, it is the Banks who went after Assange and Wikileaks also. Makes you wonder, who is really running things and makes it all the more imperative to break up these huge and far too powerful institutions before it's too late.

[randome]

40. Other than that one insinuation in the article, no assassination plots are mentioned.

If this was credible, why aren't the relevant documents quoted, no matter how redacted they may be? It sounds more like the author's over-active imagination rather than anything of substance.

Some want to believe that this is true and I stand ready to follow the facts wherever they may lead. But this article offers little more than grandstanding instead of facts.

[rhett o rick]

56. I getting the sense that you dont stand with Occupy. Does that mean you stand with the banks?

If not, where do you stand?

[randome]

57. Don't pull that kind of crap with anyone.

"You're either with us or against us." That does not fly well with me.

I am in favor of changing the system. I am in favor of paying more taxes to change the system. I am in favor of less industry consolidation.

Occupy, without leaders, failed to capitalize on an important opportunity. They squandered their energy on 'park-sitting'.

http://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/12/a-eulogy-for-occupy/

Because the GA had no way to reject force, over time it fell to force. Proposals won by intimidation; bullies carried the day. What began as a way to let people reform and remake themselves had no mechanism for dealing with them when they didn’t. It had no way to deal with parasites and predators. It became a diseased process, pushing out the weak and quiet it had meant to enfranchise until it finally collapsed when nothing was left but predators trying to rip out each other’s throats.

[rhett o rick]

61. I just wanted to know why you are so against Occupy. You favor change but

ok if the police-state beats the hell out of peaceful protestors. Disparage them because they dont have leaders and are disorganized.

Well I say bless Occupy. They are willing to put their life in jeopardy to try to wake up the apathetic American public.

[DirkGently]

4. Whoa. This needs to be fully unpacked. Wonder if it will be?

[zeos3]

8. Let's hope.

Unless the media is done with Occupy...

[loudsue]

10. And this is reported by the Guardian in the UK.

What is wrong with this picture??? Simply, everything.

[love_katz]

11. Disgusting, but I am not surprised.

Shades of CointelPro.

[Last Stand]

43. This is how Facism works.

At least now we can put to bed any rest that the US government is a branch of Corporate America.

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. Want to see an example of this in action from just two days ago?

Two days ago, 100 sheriffs and LAPD evicted Fort Hernandez, an Occupation in Van Nuys California. For four months they'd resisted an eviction notice based upon a proven fraudulent foreclosure (which they were tricked into in the first place).

Three mainstream media sources all utterly fail to mention the bank lying them into foreclosure and the foreclosure fraud. KTLA are the worst offenders, merely mentioning that the family hadn't paid the mortgage in four years (they were trying and trying to get the bank to respond and the bank did not...there is video of them finally, after media exposure, getting a call from the bank, which when asked point black two times if the bank actually owned the mortgage/home title from which to actually negotiate, resulted in silence and no answer whatsoever).

This entirely demonizes the family who have sent attorneys to the banks and police and media to petition for the loan modification they were originally requesting. It does not mention the banks' bad intent, lying, theft, and fraud.

SHAME. Media as the barking toy poodle of the 1%. FUCK THE BANKS.

The stories:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12524727

[Rex]

14. Well they are both controlled by the same people.

Ultimately.

[coalition_unwilling]

15. I want to remind everyone here that Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa of Los Angeles ordered

and presided over the raid on Occupy Los Angeles by over 1500 LAPD officers and Los Angeles LEOs. Massive civil rights violations occurred over the the next 48 hours, well documented here and elsewhere by me and others. So when Villaraigosa is touted for future leadership position in the Democratic Party, remember that he bears a badge of infamy for his role in busting up one of the largest Occupy encampments.

If Villaraigosa is ever the Dem nominee for any other elective office, not only will I not vote for him and vote 3rd Party, I will change my registration from Dem to some other party that doesn't say it supports the working class only to bash its heads in while the media applauds.

Fuck you, Villagraigosa, you lying pig.

[Le Taz Hot]

26. And our "liberal" Governor, Jerry Brown

never said a word when L.A. and Oakland actions were met with jack boots in paramilitary regalia and riot gear. To counter PEACEFUL protests.

[coalition_unwilling]

36. I'm so mad about this I'm considering leaving the Dem Party for good. I guess

registered Greens and Dem Socialists (Peace and Freedom) still can post here, provided we don't tout our parties' respective candidacies, so I may hang around for awhile.

Faithful Dem since 1980 but this is pretty much the final straw.

[Petrushka]

19. TYT video

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

20. This Naomi Wolf black helicopter bullshit again?

Will she be sharing this on the air with her pal Alex Jones?
or is she saving it for her next appearance on the Savage Weiner's show?

This stuff was a load of bull when she pushed it from an anonymously-sourced, rightwing Washington Examiner article last year, and her new conclusions are just as full of distortions this time around.

[Le Taz Hot]

27. So, you've read through

ALL the redacted documents and this is the conclusion you've come to? The 1% thanks you for your support.

[randome]

42. If you're read through the documents, kindly point us to the assassination plots.

I doubt there are any.

[WillyT]

51. Well...

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[randome]

54. Too much is redacted to know what this pertains to. I wish it was not.

It could just as likely have been some military advice that obviously was not followed. The tripwires mentioned usually refer to stopping terrorist attempts. The fear might have been that terrorists would take advantage of the Occupy movement for their own purposes.

And indeed they did, as the protesters who were arrested for plotting to blow up a bridge.

I agree that any talk about assassination is worrisome but since nothing happened, it really does not sound like some government plot to kill people.

[WillyT]

55. Yep... I'd LOVE To See The Un-Redacted Versions...

[Prometheus Bound]

30. Wait a minute. Are you suggesting the documents the DHS released are fake?

That would be rather incredible since even the DHS has not said they are fake. They corroborate what Nomi wolf said last year and prove the shills who criticized her were full of shit.

[datasuspect]

35. you speak in canards and sound bites

[nadinbrzezinski]

49. So the DHS is releasing false documents now?

Why would that be?

[Fire Walk With Me]

58. An increasingly comedic talking point.

[HiPointDem]

31. kr

[lunatica]

32. This is disappointingly no surprise

In September 2001 I went to the first anti-war march in SF after 9/11 because we all feared that Bush and the NeoCons were going to take advantage of the attacks on the WTC to go to war. There were hundreds of thousands of marchers that day. When we reached the Civic Center the buildings were surrounded by riot police in full gear and ready. I knew then that they would use everything they could against us if we got 'out of hand'. I looked around and everyone who looked at them had a sober look on their faces. These were marches planned in many large cities all over the US.

Then the next day the media ignored it, effectively killing it, though we still didn't know it. A while later, in 2003 the march in New York City with it's kettling and detentions behind fencing happened. In the meantime marchers were forced to operate in 'free speech' zones which were well removed from any important buildings or people.

That war we were marching against? It started in October 2001 and it's still going on in 2013.

So much has happened in those years. Most of it bad for a country that calls itself a Democracy.

[coalition_unwilling]

59. I am dismayed and disgusted that my government (through its internal

security organ the FBI) considered me part of a 'terrorist threat.' From what I saw, the only terrorists in operation around Occupy Los Angeles were certain members of the law enforcement community.

I'm switching my party registration from Democratic to Peace and Freedom on January 2, 2013. If this is what the Democratic Party considers the new normal, i want no part of the Democratic Party. Yeah, maybe I'm throwing out the baby with the bathwater, but I've reached my Mercutio moment - A plague on both your houses.

[randome]

60. Where did they say that OWS was a terrorist threat?

[snot]

33. K&R'd.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

37. Not a surprise.

Anything that shakes the status que will see something like this. Remember the Civil Rights Movement?

[Odin2005]

38. The US has become a Fascist state.

Expect things like the shit going on in Michigan to spread as the PTB work to centralize power in unaccountable despots like Rick Snyder.

[randome]

41. So fascist that documents are freely released via FOI requests.

[Odin2005]

50. Doesn't matter when most people are kept stupified...

with TV and junk food.

[zappaman]

62. Is that your definition of "fascism"?

You might want to consult a dictionary.
The United States is clearly not a fascist nation, regardless of your hyperbole.

[indepat]

52. Someone please tell me this is not a corporatist

government lock, stock, and both barrels.

[WillyT]

63. Kick !!!