Ryan leads the R field for 2016--Proof that Republicans DO learn.

[Jackpine Radical]

Just like they learned from Vietnam.

Unfortunately for them (and all too often for us), what they learn is generally the wrong lesson.

In Vietnam they learned to keep the press and cameras away from actual combat missions with all the blood & gore, safely "embedding" them at Headquarters.

In 2012 they learned that Romney was too much of a weak-kneed liberal to win the election.

Other things they have learned--

There is no global warming.
The way to solve the energy crisis is with tar-sand crude.
The way to fix the economy is to starve the poor.
The (flat) Earth was created in 4004 B.C.

God help us!

[Volaris]

1. Not to worry, they'll fuck it up one way or another...

there isn't anybody over there that knows how to RUN a decent campaign anymore (maybe Steve Schmidt, but he would need a viable GenElec. candidate to even THINK of trying such a thing after dealing with Palin, and he knows Ryan ain't it.) 2016 is going to be ours to lose unless we TOTALLY forget how to govern in the next 4 years, and that won't happen with Obama, Reid, Pelosi and Axelrod at the Party Helm.
I still want Howard Dean back running the DNC though. That he got pushed out aggravates me to no end.

[AldoLeopold]

5. I'm a huge Dean supporter

But Debbie Schultz needs props man - she's doing quite well from what I see - unless you know something I don't, which is possible. I've had my head in Organic chem the past two years.

[asjr]

7. Agreed, especially about Howard Dean. He holds

no punches and tells us exactly how he feels--and how we should feel. He was my pick in 2004.

[flamingdem]

2. We'll always have those photos of Ryan looking like an idiot with dumbells

to remind everyone of his failed campaign and stupid ideas

[Jackpine Radical]

18. Two Dumbbells.

The smart one is getting a lift.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

22. Good one

[Buzz Clik]

3. Ryan's self worship and willingness to lie will get him in trouble.

I truly thought that Romney's wealth would be equated with economic genius and he would be elected. But, the voters didn't like him. They likely will not like Ryan. Kinda depends on who the Dems put up. Some folks would love to see Bernie Sanders running.

[Voice for Peace]

6. Is it too soon for Julian Castro?

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(edited cos I thought his name was Julio)

[Buzz Clik]

11. Maybe too early, but never too early to try!

Julian Bond's fantastic local work set the stage for Barack Obama. . Julian Catro's leadership in San Antonio could be his springboard or could set the stage for someone else.

I like it!

[ecstatic]

4. I'm worried about 2014

That being said, it really saddens me that we're letting lunatics get within striking distance to the white house.

[tabbycat31]

17. I'm worried about the Senate in 2014

Not as much worried about the House. If Democrats vote, we might be able to pick up a few House seats and overcome the GOP's gerrymandering.

We also have to pay attention to state houses. There are two states where the state house is on the ballot next year and we need to make gains in both of them. The smaller the race, the more directly it affects you. (As a campaign staffer, I'm leaning more towards a legislative race than a governor's race next year)

[w8liftinglady]

8. I will definitely be watching Congressional actions

We'll need them in the upcoming elections.

[TwilightGardener]

9. Well, fill up the sink and get the clean pots out!

[Bigmack]

10. Ryan vs. HRC.... my dream matchup. Can you say blowout? nt

[uponit7771]

12. He'll fall quickly, I expect them to run Jeb Bush so he can fail too

[pscot]

21. Jeb will be the establishment's choice

He'll have all the money in the world.

[Ikonoklast]

13. It will be Brownback. I am making my prediction right now.

With a female (not sure which one yet) as his running mate on the ticket.



BET THE HOUSE.

[CrispyQ]

14. I'm surprised how many women think he's attractive. I just don't see it.

I see a goofy looking guy with a nasty mean streak.

[sellitman]

15. It doesn't matter who they run.

Until they moderate the parties platform they will have to resort to cheating on a grander scale then they tried to this time around.

They are their own worse enemy.

Thankfully.

[brooklynite]

16. This is a stretch of an argument...

...four years ago at this time, the leading R candidate was probably Palin. NOBODY is thinking about who they really want to vote for four years from now, and Ryan has the advantage of marginally better name recognition.

[Jackpine Radical]

19. Well, yes, of course.

Nevertheless, the party stands a good chance of tearing itself to shreds out of sheer lunacy by then.

[Generic Other]

20. the undead never die

[lunatica]

23. I for one will be very happy if they run his sorry ass in 2016

He couldn't run far away enough or fast enough when his real crap came out. Now he's back in his Randian bubble being the boy math genius working behind closed doors.

If he's their best hope they're done.