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PeaceWave

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Mon Feb 23, 2026, 01:14 PM Feb 23

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) PeaceWave Feb 23 OP
Jerks? leftstreet Feb 23 #1
Cryptic AZJonnie Feb 23 #2
How so? I understood it just fine. niyad Feb 23 #7
I didn't, hence my post AZJonnie Feb 23 #8
It wasn't that complicated leftstreet Feb 23 #9
That was another possibility AZJonnie Feb 23 #11
There is a DU thread that claims that wnylib Feb 23 #22
Should be noted that the interpretation offered by that OP is exactly what FOXNews RockRaven Feb 23 #28
I am not at all surprised. Sounds like Fox talking point. wnylib Feb 23 #31
Yes that post was alerted FakeNoose Feb 23 #34
Of course it was not racist. This whole thing wnylib Feb 23 #35
Why would anyone here on DU mock Newsom for this? W_HAMILTON Feb 23 #23
They shouldn't. The criticism of Newsom is is being promoted on Fox and wnylib Feb 23 #32
Jerks? Well ... Munu Feb 23 #4
The two are synonymous. (nt) GiqueCee Feb 23 #18
I saw a clip on Bluesky where he said something like I am a poor student like you, talking to a black guy and audience LymphocyteLover Feb 23 #14
That's a RW specialty, isn't it? maxsolomon Feb 23 #19
Spot on. That's how it came across to me, too. wnylib Feb 23 #27
Exactly. MorbidButterflyTat Feb 23 #36
Context is everything... GiqueCee Feb 23 #24
What Newsom said was that he is no better than anyone else wnylib Feb 23 #25
As a left handed dyslexic, I understood him just fine. I do not get the "pushback" he's gotten. My SATs ... marble falls Feb 23 #3
I think the problem is a clip where he was talking to a black guy and audience and said I'm a poor student LymphocyteLover Feb 23 #15
I'm a lefty, too... GiqueCee Feb 23 #26
I was in Lutheran private schools. She wanted me to change hands, but I learned to change the slant and not ... marble falls Feb 23 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 23 #40
Being a left handed dyslexic made me a good 3D computer aided draftsman. marble falls Feb 23 #41
Anyone making fun of anyone's disabilities and/or handicaps are themselves choosing to be a human being of SWBTATTReg Feb 23 #5
I can agree with what you wrote, but it does not apply wnylib Feb 23 #29
I wasn't directing my response in regards to Newsom's remarks. I do agree w/ your remarks that things are being SWBTATTReg Feb 23 #37
JFC. Probably the same ones who ragged on President Biden's stutter. niyad Feb 23 #6
Humans can be imazing. He is. twodogsbarking Feb 23 #10
If only we were all the same? multigraincracker Feb 23 #12
Our country is teetering on the edge of a cliff and yet DU finds time to dig deep into the minutia and potential meaning NoMoreRepugs Feb 23 #13
I really admire Newsom pinkstarburst Feb 23 #16
Well said BannonsLiver Feb 23 #17
Buttery males! hay rick Feb 23 #21
Post removed Post removed Feb 23 #20
The controversy isn't about his dyslexia synni Feb 23 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Feb 23 #39
Those folks are misreading what happened. marble falls Feb 23 #42
Newsom's certainly not one to delete his own words... his convictions stand firm Torchlight Feb 23 #38

leftstreet

(40,730 posts)
1. Jerks?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 01:17 PM
Feb 23

ffs

AZJonnie

(3,707 posts)
2. Cryptic
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 01:21 PM
Feb 23

niyad

(132,508 posts)
7. How so? I understood it just fine.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:15 PM
Feb 23


AZJonnie

(3,707 posts)
8. I didn't, hence my post
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:29 PM
Feb 23

For all I know, the term "jerks" has become verboten in some way due to some arcane historical reference and I missed the memo, and this is a chastising for the OP using the word. I just don't know what "Jerks? ffs" means in the context, though of course I know the acronym

leftstreet

(40,730 posts)
9. It wasn't that complicated
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:32 PM
Feb 23

Referring to DU members as "jerks" seems rude

If someone starts a provocative or hyperbolic thread on DU they're not necessarily "jerks."

AZJonnie

(3,707 posts)
11. That was another possibility
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:38 PM
Feb 23

I didn't realize anyone on DU was doing that (it doesn't SOUND like something we'd do here), sorry for my confusion. Thanks for clarifying

ETA: I agree with this point!

wnylib

(26,050 posts)
22. There is a DU thread that claims that
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:23 PM
Feb 23

Newsom's reference in an interview to being no better than anyone else because he had low SAT scores was racist since there were Blacks in the audience.

The OP interprets what Newsom said to mean that Blacks have low SAT scores. Another poster posted a link to the interview and there is nothing racist about what he said. The Black interviewer and the mixed race audience laughed at Newsom's self-deprecating humor.

RockRaven

(19,406 posts)
28. Should be noted that the interpretation offered by that OP is exactly what FOXNews
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:36 PM
Feb 23

and other RW news/propaganda outlets are saying about the comment -- including the selective editing of the full quote.

wnylib

(26,050 posts)
31. I am not at all surprised. Sounds like Fox talking point.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:51 PM
Feb 23

FakeNoose

(41,691 posts)
34. Yes that post was alerted
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 04:02 PM
Feb 23

I think whoever alerted on that post was deliberately spoiling for a fight.

To me (I was on the jury) the statement Gavin Newsom made was NOT racist. It didn't sound to me like he said "Oh by the way, Blacks can't read and neither can I."

wnylib

(26,050 posts)
35. Of course it was not racist. This whole thing
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 04:07 PM
Feb 23

smacks of a RW talking point to discredit Newsom for 2028.

I was told that the source of the hoopla about Newsom is Fox. I wouldn't know since I never watch anything from Fox.

W_HAMILTON

(10,338 posts)
23. Why would anyone here on DU mock Newsom for this?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:25 PM
Feb 23

wnylib

(26,050 posts)
32. They shouldn't. The criticism of Newsom is is being promoted on Fox and
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:53 PM
Feb 23

spreading from there.

Munu

(218 posts)
4. Jerks? Well ...
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 01:47 PM
Feb 23

... Republicans.

GiqueCee

(4,286 posts)
18. The two are synonymous. (nt)
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:13 PM
Feb 23

LymphocyteLover

(9,857 posts)
14. I saw a clip on Bluesky where he said something like I am a poor student like you, talking to a black guy and audience
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:01 PM
Feb 23

taken out of context, it looks racist

maxsolomon

(38,749 posts)
19. That's a RW specialty, isn't it?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:17 PM
Feb 23

Manufacture a controversy, repeat it over and over and over and over. Force the target to respond, use the response as evidence of guilt.

See: Obama's Birth Certificate.

wnylib

(26,050 posts)
27. Spot on. That's how it came across to me, too.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:36 PM
Feb 23

I watched the section of the interview being referenced and there is nothing racist in it, which is the unfounded claim. The Black interviewer and the racially mixed audience laughed at what Newsom said because they understood that he was making a joke about himself.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,527 posts)
36. Exactly.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 04:29 PM
Feb 23

GiqueCee

(4,286 posts)
24. Context is everything...
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:27 PM
Feb 23

... I am not familiar with the occasion in which Newsom made that comment, but I suspect it may well have been made to a group of people who struggle with dyslexia, and the gentleman of color to whom he made that remark may have identified himself as a poor student because of his dyslexia. When I was in elementary school 70 years ago, dyslexia was barely considered an actual condition, let alone understood or properly treated. I knew kids that were very intelligent, but had difficulty reading. Back then, ADD wasn't a thing, either. I could read just fine, but paying attention for extended periods was pure hell.

wnylib

(26,050 posts)
25. What Newsom said was that he is no better than anyone else
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:28 PM
Feb 23

since he had low SAT scores. He did not say "no better than you" and was speaking in general and not directly to the Black interviewer. The audience was racially mixed. Both the interviewer and the audience laughed at Newsom because they understood that he was making a joke about himself.

marble falls

(71,950 posts)
3. As a left handed dyslexic, I understood him just fine. I do not get the "pushback" he's gotten. My SATs ...
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 01:37 PM
Feb 23

... were a lot better.

LymphocyteLover

(9,857 posts)
15. I think the problem is a clip where he was talking to a black guy and audience and said I'm a poor student
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:03 PM
Feb 23

like you (paraphrase)

GiqueCee

(4,286 posts)
26. I'm a lefty, too...
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:34 PM
Feb 23

... and when we moved from Westport Connecticut to rural southern Berkshire County in Massachusetts in '57, I vividly recall my 4th grade teacher, Miss Garahan, scolding me and trying to make me write right-handed. My mother tore her a new one, and Miss Garahan never troubled me again.

marble falls

(71,950 posts)
30. I was in Lutheran private schools. She wanted me to change hands, but I learned to change the slant and not ...
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:49 PM
Feb 23

... drag my little finger through the ink/pencil. She thought she won. Used my right hand for black board work.

Out of us six kids, three are left handed. Out of my three kids, one is left-handed.

Response to marble falls (Reply #30)

marble falls

(71,950 posts)
41. Being a left handed dyslexic made me a good 3D computer aided draftsman.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 06:39 PM
Feb 23

SWBTATTReg

(26,262 posts)
5. Anyone making fun of anyone's disabilities and/or handicaps are themselves choosing to be a human being of
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 01:56 PM
Feb 23

the worst sort. Anyone w/ eyes can look within their own communities, their own families, their own close-knit group of friends and see all sorts of handicaps within their own group. Eyeglasses, hearing aids (me), limping (a favorite cousin of mine, polio as a child), etc. The list is endless, as the handicaps range through the whole span of the body and mind. And we done pretty damn good for the most part, in helping these beautiful individuals to become more in their own ways through a variety of ways, as we have done over centuries in this country.

What also sadly is true is that scumbags of the lowest sort have always been around, mocking these members of our society who are handicapped in some manner. They do this, thinking that they can attack these victims in relative safety, w/o being attacked in return.

Cowards. Pure and simple, Cowards.

They don't realize that the handicapped have friends, families, all sorts of friends in their corner. As a person suffering a profound loss of hearing, I went to school w/ these developmental challenged individuals as before they recognized my handicap as being one of just profound hearing loss, so they outfitted me w/ hearing aids, and then started the process of rehabbing, reteaching me English, how to speak, etc. I was lucky, caught in time (I was 9 years old when this was discovered). I went into the regular school system starting in the 4th grade. There are still words that I just quite get on pronouncing them. And yes, I still miss tons of conversations, but all of my friends know this, all of them know if they talk to me, make sure that I'm looking at them (to read their lips).

Those that mock, stand in their own filth and are the bottom of the human race, the scum of the human race, the foul far worse than the handicapped

wnylib

(26,050 posts)
29. I can agree with what you wrote, but it does not apply
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:48 PM
Feb 23

to the Newsom interview in question.

Newsom said that he was no better than anyone else since he had a low SAT score. It was a a little bit self-deprecating since he is the governor of a lage, populous state who was admitting that he had struggled with academics. There was zero implication of race or of inferiority of people with any disability. In the context, it was as if he was saying that anyone can have a disability but still achieve things.

The whole thing is being misrepresented and magnified in a way that smacks of a political attack from a RW talking points memo.

SWBTATTReg

(26,262 posts)
37. I wasn't directing my response in regards to Newsom's remarks. I do agree w/ your remarks that things are being
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 05:31 PM
Feb 23

mispresented and magnified, as usual, from repug sources, as usual.

niyad

(132,508 posts)
6. JFC. Probably the same ones who ragged on President Biden's stutter.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:14 PM
Feb 23

twodogsbarking

(18,812 posts)
10. Humans can be imazing. He is.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:34 PM
Feb 23

multigraincracker

(37,665 posts)
12. If only we were all the same?
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 02:59 PM
Feb 23

What a
Boring world it would be.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,089 posts)
13. Our country is teetering on the edge of a cliff and yet DU finds time to dig deep into the minutia and potential meaning
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:00 PM
Feb 23

of a word - give me a F'en break.

Go ahead and alert me - I said what I wanted to.

pinkstarburst

(2,020 posts)
16. I really admire Newsom
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:07 PM
Feb 23

And I think we need to stop picking apart democrats.

I especially think we need to stop picking and choosing which democrats we get our panties in a twist about, if we aren't doing the same for ALL democrats who make gaffe comments. I personally think this comment was just him trying to talk about his dyslexia.

I am not interested in entertaining "hurt feelings" from anyone who wants to call out Newsom for this, who isn't shouting from the rafters about how Jasmine Crockett has made ableist remarks that are insulting to disabled people. If you aren't offended by the one, why are you suddenly offended by the other?

We need to stop picking apart our candidates who have a real chance of winning in 2028, or we will end up with Vance for another 4 years.

BannonsLiver

(20,603 posts)
17. Well said
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:09 PM
Feb 23

When you hate Gavin Newsom so much you amplify right wing nut job talking points you’re a GD moron in my book. You know who also is pushing this? The NYP and Nikki Minaj. I guess for some folks that’s considered good company. Sad!

hay rick

(9,611 posts)
21. Buttery males!
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:21 PM
Feb 23

Response to PeaceWave (Original post)

synni

(778 posts)
33. The controversy isn't about his dyslexia
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 03:56 PM
Feb 23

People are upset because he was speaking to a black person, as if that black person is unintelligent. Dyslexia doesn't make a person unintelligent, which Newsom should know.

As much as I support Newsom's trolling of Trump, I must admit to having serious reservations about him. Some of his policies have been detrimental to people in need. (And no, I'm afraid I can't list them all, because my eyes are giving me such problems today, that I can barely see.)

I sincerely hope that he learns from his mistakes, because we need all the powerful Democrats that we can get.

Response to synni (Reply #33)

marble falls

(71,950 posts)
42. Those folks are misreading what happened.
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 06:42 PM
Feb 23

Torchlight

(6,833 posts)
38. Newsom's certainly not one to delete his own words... his convictions stand firm
Mon Feb 23, 2026, 05:40 PM
Feb 23

and his primary candidacy appears to be the real deal.

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