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Pic Of The Moment: War With Iran: How Did We Get Here? (Original Post) EarlG Feb 27 OP
So very similar to Trump having his sycophants torpedo the negotiated Immigration Bill... Hugin Feb 27 #1
I have conservative relatives . . . Scubamatt Feb 27 #16
But "pizzagate?" SergeStorms Feb 27 #18
And did you see that those . . . Scubamatt Feb 27 #22
I hadn't seen that.... SergeStorms Feb 28 #33
Willful ignorance is dissembling The Wizard Feb 28 #30
To answer your question, you can't! CrispyQ Feb 27 #19
Thanks for sharing Scubamatt Feb 27 #21
If the bdamomma Feb 28 #28
If you could.... MarcoZandrini Feb 28 #25
Its amazing that the stupid shit Trump did Johonny Feb 27 #2
K&R...nt Wounded Bear Feb 27 #3
Situation FUBAR orangecrush Feb 27 #4
Fail at home, start a war overseas. Aristus Feb 27 #5
+1 And they're not even TRYING to sell it leftstreet Feb 27 #6
Exactly bdamomma Feb 28 #29
;-{)..... Goonch Feb 27 #7
"Periisian Gulf"? I spot the Ai right there nt SouthBayDem Feb 27 #10
Hey, it's Trump's map ;-{) Goonch Feb 27 #11
K&R LetMyPeopleVote Feb 27 #8
Trump reminds me of another reality, where intelligent insects constantly fly around your head... chouchou Feb 27 #9
I posted these 2 images side by side on my social media accts. irisblue Feb 27 #12
Everything Obama did was "horrible" according to the turd. Initech Feb 27 #13
Epstein, Eptstein, Eptstein. TickTock, m*fucker, not even a war is going to stop this oncoming train. Joinfortmill Feb 27 #14
Reminds me of the Bush administration and Iraq. We had scores of inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency Martin68 Feb 27 #15
The ultimate Epstein distraction War. spanone Feb 27 #17
Meanwhile... snot Feb 27 #20
You are employing logic in a country where that does not currently work. BootinUp Feb 27 #23
epstien red herring. pansypoo53219 Feb 27 #24
K&R gademocrat7 Feb 28 #26
So, we need to re-obliterate them? Rhiagel Feb 28 #27
Hey Donnie, Trueblue Texan Feb 28 #31
There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people. Howard Zinn Ping Tung Feb 28 #32

Hugin

(37,810 posts)
1. So very similar to Trump having his sycophants torpedo the negotiated Immigration Bill...
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 10:58 AM
Feb 27

Because he wanted to run on immigration in 2024 and they for some inscrutable reason complied.

Scubamatt

(302 posts)
16. I have conservative relatives . . .
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 02:44 PM
Feb 27

and they continue to claim this never happened. I send them links and references, but they refuse to believe it. How can you have a functioning government - much less a functioning society - where a significant chunk of the population denies basic facts (largely aided by the complicit media, of course)?

SergeStorms

(20,472 posts)
18. But "pizzagate?"
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 03:25 PM
Feb 27
Totally reliable! "Q" figured it all out from Podesta's emails.

Willful ignorance is the absolute worst type of ignorance.

Scubamatt

(302 posts)
22. And did you see that those . . .
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:54 PM
Feb 27

@$$*&%$# actually asked her about that - let it go after 20 years! And never once asked about their god-king, who was mentioned tens of thousands of times in the 2% of the Trumpstein files that were actually produced?

SergeStorms

(20,472 posts)
33. I hadn't seen that....
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 01:20 PM
Feb 28

but nothing surprises me about those macaroons anymore. People who worship a fat, orange, lying pedophile don't fill me with hope about the future. 😉

CrispyQ

(40,923 posts)
19. To answer your question, you can't!
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 03:29 PM
Feb 27

I've asked the same thing, when people say we have to find common ground with the opposition. Where is the common ground on the 2020 election? On J6? On science? When they admit that the 2020 election wasn't stolen, J6 was an insurrection of thugs trying to silence the voice of the majority of Americans, & climate change is real, then we have some common ground to start on, but until then they are so detached from reality they're a waste of time.

I feel for you. I have Maga relatives, too (I refuse to call them conservative), ones I was quite fond of when I was a kid.

Scubamatt

(302 posts)
21. Thanks for sharing
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:50 PM
Feb 27

your own experiences - as you so eloquently stated, there is no point trying to find common ground with folks whose minds are closed.

bdamomma

(69,503 posts)
28. If the
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:37 AM
Feb 28

truth ever penetrated their "closed minds" their heads would explode from the truth.
It's called "Cognitive Dissonance".

Cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes. People tend to seek consistency in their attitudes and perceptions, so this conflict causes unpleasant feelings of unease or discomfort.

Johonny

(26,073 posts)
2. Its amazing that the stupid shit Trump did
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 10:58 AM
Feb 27

In his first term wasn't even part of the media 2024 narrative. Joe Biden was old, but Trump 1.0 was awful. Now Trump is just as old and even worse.

leftstreet

(40,318 posts)
6. +1 And they're not even TRYING to sell it
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 11:15 AM
Feb 27

No Colin Powell around to show us vials of yellowcake

bdamomma

(69,503 posts)
29. Exactly
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:42 AM
Feb 28

We have no rudder so to say. No peacemakers whatsoever.

Trump, Putin. and Netanyahu are all criminals. Orban too.

chouchou

(3,110 posts)
9. Trump reminds me of another reality, where intelligent insects constantly fly around your head...
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 11:35 AM
Feb 27

...just for fun and to royally piss you off.

Initech

(108,584 posts)
13. Everything Obama did was "horrible" according to the turd.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 12:03 PM
Feb 27

But all of the problems we’re facing now were the direct cause of Donald Trump. But he gets to blame everything and everyone else because MAGA turds control the narrative.

Joinfortmill

(20,991 posts)
14. Epstein, Eptstein, Eptstein. TickTock, m*fucker, not even a war is going to stop this oncoming train.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 12:44 PM
Feb 27

Martin68

(27,594 posts)
15. Reminds me of the Bush administration and Iraq. We had scores of inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 01:37 PM
Feb 27

traveling all over Iraq looking for evidence of nuclear and any other WMD. So Bush kicks the inspectors out and invades Iraq under the pretense that there was evidence of WMD production. They never found an WMD.

snot

(11,747 posts)
20. Meanwhile...
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 05:37 PM
Feb 27

US & Canadian authorities have begun evacuating non-emergency embassy personnel from Israel and advising their citizens to leave the country.

We've already spent at least $31 billion supporting Israel since 10/7 – and that was as of last September (see https://costsofwar.watson.brown.edu/sites/default/files/2025-10/Wider-Middle-East-Costs_Costs-of-War_Bilmes_10.7.25.pdf ).

Per Forbes, "the past month of keeping forces 'on station' in the southern Gulf has already cost the U.S. military on the order of $200 million. And if negotiations continue to drag on, the tally for the current, augmented presence will reach or exceed half-a-billion dollars by mid- to late March.

"But if battle with Iran is joined, the costs will become steeper still. Last year’s 'Operation Midnight Hammer,' as the 37-hour American campaign against Iran’s nuclear program was officially called, is estimated to have cost the U.S. government some $2.25 billion total. A new effort to further erode Iran’s nuclear and ballistic missile capabilities...would entail even greater expense." (https://www.forbes.com/sites/ilanberman/2026/02/26/the-dollars-and-cents-of-military-action-against-iran/ )

I've always found that even most MAGAts are concerned about the economics (the exceptions being those who profit from war via interests in the MIC or Wall St. speculation).

BootinUp

(51,227 posts)
23. You are employing logic in a country where that does not currently work.
Fri Feb 27, 2026, 11:13 PM
Feb 27

I rec'd it anyway.

Trueblue Texan

(4,410 posts)
31. Hey Donnie,
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 09:18 AM
Feb 28

Americans still can't afford groceries and we ALL want the Epstein perverts bought to justice, EVERY SINGLE ONE of them, regardless of their net worth, political, or social status.

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