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PeaceWave

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A slim chance, alas. For this war is not being waged to liberate women. Mister Ed Feb 28 #1
Women in Afghanistan have it much worse VMA131Marine Feb 28 #2
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I know an Iranian woman who has regularly travelled between the US and Iran VMA131Marine Feb 28 #5
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But still better than those in Saudi. VMA131Marine Mar 1 #20
Maybe so but there are important differences fujiyamasan Feb 28 #10
Woman are executed in Iran and sentenced to prior rape, so that they cannot go to paradise. Melon Mar 1 #21
Bad comparison. Most Iranian men support women being free. Iranians are mostly liberal JI7 Feb 28 #19
Who will save the women in fascist red states who face being put to death for miscarriages? nt yaesu Feb 28 #4
Or it could be replaced by an even more oppressive regime. viva la Feb 28 #7
Only in the fantasies of warmongers does it represent that. The CIA's assessment was very different. RockRaven Feb 28 #8
warmongers and their enablers Skittles Feb 28 #15
sure, and monkeys might fly out of my butt WhiskeyGrinder Feb 28 #9
I am really sick of that whitewasher Skittles Feb 28 #17
Irani women may be in worse shape if the replacement is more hardliner. sinkingfeeling Feb 28 #11
And Venezuelans are now free, right? SamuelTheThird Feb 28 #12
Reality is that's not what's happening at all. Iggo Feb 28 #13
LOL Skittles Feb 28 #14
I think we can calm down about which country is a brutal place for women. Hope22 Feb 28 #16
Here is a con supporting woman from Oklahoma City discussing how great(sarcasm) everything is right now. Quiet Em Feb 28 #18
Ali Larijani is probably the next Supreme Leader. roamer65 Mar 1 #22
"Today represents a chance for them to finally be free." LudwigPastorius Mar 1 #23

Mister Ed

(6,929 posts)
1. A slim chance, alas. For this war is not being waged to liberate women.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 07:46 PM
Feb 28

The women of Afghanistan were similarly oppressed, and sadly remain so twenty years after our invasion.

VMA131Marine

(5,271 posts)
2. Women in Afghanistan have it much worse
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 07:50 PM
Feb 28

than Iranian women.

And let’s not forget one of our “allies” in this, Saudi Arabia has an abysmal record when it comes to women’s rights; at least as bad as Iran’s if not even worse. Iranian women can travel unaccompanied, not so for Saudi women.

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VMA131Marine

(5,271 posts)
5. I know an Iranian woman who has regularly travelled between the US and Iran
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 07:56 PM
Feb 28

on her own.

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VMA131Marine

(5,271 posts)
20. But still better than those in Saudi.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 12:59 AM
Mar 1

fujiyamasan

(1,703 posts)
10. Maybe so but there are important differences
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:07 PM
Feb 28

Iran was, even under the ayatollah, a better place for women than Afghanistan.

Iranian women can get an education even at the university level and women have led the way for more freedom for years now. Iran is also much more urbanized than Afghanistan. The two countries are very different culturally.

Not sure why any of this matters. We didn’t go into Afghanistan because the taliban treated women badly. The same here. Women may end up better off. That’s great, but it wasn’t our responsibility to go in and depose their leader. I hate to say it, it’s cold but the fate of Iranian women’s human rights doesn’t impact most Americans lives anyways. I’m more concerned about the brutality of ICE and the pedo president we have.

Melon

(1,526 posts)
21. Woman are executed in Iran and sentenced to prior rape, so that they cannot go to paradise.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 01:01 AM
Mar 1

There is always something worse is a disgustingly low bar to achieve. Iran treats woman horribly.

JI7

(93,630 posts)
19. Bad comparison. Most Iranian men support women being free. Iranians are mostly liberal
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:51 PM
Feb 28

We don't know what will happen but the comparisons to other Islamic countries don't work.

I would say there is a bigger chance of something like what happened in Russia happening. Things involving corrupt elites and businesses and other shit .

yaesu

(9,334 posts)
4. Who will save the women in fascist red states who face being put to death for miscarriages? nt
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 07:54 PM
Feb 28

viva la

(4,599 posts)
7. Or it could be replaced by an even more oppressive regime.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:00 PM
Feb 28

Cf Afghanistan.

RockRaven

(19,406 posts)
8. Only in the fantasies of warmongers does it represent that. The CIA's assessment was very different.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:05 PM
Feb 28
Exclusive: Prior to Iran attacks, CIA assessed Khamenei could be replaced by hardline IRGC elements if killed, sources say
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WASHINGTON, Feb 28 (Reuters) - In the run-up to the U.S. and Israeli attacks on Saturday, the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency assessed that even if Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in the operation, he could be replaced by hardline figures from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), two sources briefed on the intelligence said.

The agency's assessments, which were produced over the past two weeks, looked broadly at what could occur in Iran following a U.S. intervention and the extent to which a military operation could trigger regime change in the Islamic Republic -- now a pronounced objective for Washington.

IRGC figures taking power was among the multiple different scenarios that emerged, a third source familiar with the matter said.


It continues:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/prior-iran-attacks-cia-assessed-khamenei-would-be-replaced-by-hardline-irgc-2026-02-28/

Skittles

(171,745 posts)
15. warmongers and their enablers
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:21 PM
Feb 28

yup

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,960 posts)
9. sure, and monkeys might fly out of my butt
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:05 PM
Feb 28

Skittles

(171,745 posts)
17. I am really sick of that whitewasher
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:22 PM
Feb 28

sinkingfeeling

(57,839 posts)
11. Irani women may be in worse shape if the replacement is more hardliner.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:12 PM
Feb 28

SamuelTheThird

(1,169 posts)
12. And Venezuelans are now free, right?
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:15 PM
Feb 28

Iggo

(49,934 posts)
13. Reality is that's not what's happening at all.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:17 PM
Feb 28

Trump attacked a country because he’s down in the polls and people just won’t let go of this Epstein thing. His SOTU was shit. His attempt to glom onto the hockey gold medal was shit. His tariffs are shit. His invasion of Minneapolis was shit. His rubber stamp congress is shit. Even the support from his foaming at the mouth racist base is turning to shit. War is the only way out of this. So now we’re in a war.

Nothing about this is saving the women of Iran.

Skittles

(171,745 posts)
14. LOL
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:20 PM
Feb 28

repukes don't give a fuck about women in AMERICA, let alone anywhere else in the world

Hope22

(4,755 posts)
16. I think we can calm down about which country is a brutal place for women.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:22 PM
Feb 28

In the US It appears that no harm no foul if young girls are raped and used as sex slaves. Don’t worry about going to jail boys. As long as you have the cash in your pockets. Somehow our rights to control our own bodies has been snatched from our existence. Zygotes have first right to the hosts body. Now the right to vote for non male citizens is under direct attack. The list goes on and on. The history of the US and close inspection of what is going on here today should put the spotlight on this country as a hostile place to navigate as a female. It starts at the top but lives in the dark corners of the male hearts groomed over time by the system.

Quiet Em

(2,942 posts)
18. Here is a con supporting woman from Oklahoma City discussing how great(sarcasm) everything is right now.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:43 PM
Feb 28
At 11 p.m. PST on Friday, she shared that sirens were sounding throughout Israel, and that people were advised to seek shelter, and that they could not cross into Jordan. She requested prayers for their safety.

At 1 a.m. PST, she shared, “I am just a little farm girl from [southwest Missouri] right in the middle of the forthcoming war in the Middle East. Warnings and sirens are going off again. The 2 main targets are Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. I am near Jerusalem in a shelter. I’m just a little girl from [southwest Missouri] who is scared to death. The airport is closed down, and I can’t get to Jordan. I am in God’s hands.”

In a post an hour later, she shared pictures of the bomb shelter she was in: “It is all concrete and cold,” she said. “Lord, I want to be with my family. I am beyond scared.”

Just minutes later, she posted that people were rushing into the bomb shelter and that it was chaos. She said that she had learned that fear is a universal language.

At 5 a.m. PST, she updated her followers that the border crossing to Jordan was in fact closed. As a result, they would need to travel approximately five hours by bus to the next available crossing, though there was no certainty that it would be open. She also mentioned that they might need to drive to Cairo, which is nine hours away, and that the situation was changing by the minute.

Two hours later, she reported that Jordan was being bombed, so they were leaving immediately for an undisclosed location, where they hoped to find refuge. She asked for prayers and support for her family, her husband, and her two children.


https://fox40.com/news/national-and-world-news/missouri-woman-trapped-israel-iran-conflict/

roamer65

(37,962 posts)
22. Ali Larijani is probably the next Supreme Leader.
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 01:51 AM
Mar 1

He’s more hard line than Khameini.

LudwigPastorius

(14,742 posts)
23. "Today represents a chance for them to finally be free."
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 02:00 AM
Mar 1

Yes, represents a chance, meaning it is symbolic, but ONLY symbolic because there are still 100,000 clerics in Iranian government...national, regional, and local.

And, there is still the Revolutionary Guard and its militias which protect and prop up those theocrats. Instigating a true revolution is a lot more involved than just capping the guy at the top.

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