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More Suspicions Arise About Epstein's "Suicide." (Original Post) gab13by13 Sunday OP
Hope he wrote his will malaise Sunday #1
Sure Rapist Pig Whip-poor-will Sunday #2
I took a criminal law class and there multigraincracker Sunday #3
That's how many cold cases are solved JoseBalow Sunday #4
The DOJ charged her, then dropped the charges. Did federal prosecutors even look at her bank account? sop Sunday #7
She was indicted when SDNY was still being run by Geoffrey Berman who was a thorn in Trump's side OhioBlue Sunday #32
Probably won a lottery. Easy way to funnel money in certain cases LiberalArkie Sunday #18
One would think he wouldn't deposit the money all at once. Haggard Celine Sunday #5
So why not subpoena him and found out what his story is? TheRickles Sunday #8
Maybe he didn't gab13by13 Sunday #19
Good. About damn time. And, what did Bill Barr know and when did he know it? Joinfortmill Sunday #6
AG Bill Barr ran that whole show. rubbersole Sunday #12
He's gone so silent, he's almost a myth leftstreet Sunday #15
Bill Barr had Epstein "suicided". Bill Barr, son of Donald Barr who hired Epstein at his school. Small world. erronis Sunday #17
Donald Barr. Same guy who worked for the OSS -- a precursor of the CIA. Just saying... VegasVet Sunday #33
So, is trump going to say that this story.... 70sEraVet Sunday #9
With so many people who would want him dead, it's hard to say who's implicated (nt) William Seger Sunday #10
K&R spanone Sunday #11
I Want Them Named WiVoter Sunday #13
I was against water boarding, BUT bluestarone Sunday #14
I know polygraph test are worthless, even though I passed mine and my ex(an excop) refused to take it. multigraincracker Sunday #22
From another article: superpatriotman Sunday #16
Oh there's more to corroborate that Epstein was strangled. gab13by13 Sunday #20
THIS. I remember reading/hearing that the coroner had said this. This is Truth. ...n/t CaliforniaPeggy Sunday #27
From the article - Mme. Defarge Sunday #21
Follow the money. Someone knows and when the price is right, they will come forward with proof. multigraincracker Sunday #23
Well, this is weird - Mme. Defarge Sunday #24
It's so obvious he was suicided. Oneironaut Sunday #25
Maxwell came from money and has a network behind her. haele Sunday #30
Her father was mossad so yea powerful connections to be sure questionseverything Sunday #31
He's a cheap buy-off. Clouds Passing Sunday #26
Cheap at twice the price chicoescuela Sunday #28
The reporting is that guards were heard trying to revive Epstein and when unsuccessful Bluetus Sunday #29

multigraincracker

(37,417 posts)
3. I took a criminal law class and there
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 08:06 AM
Sunday

was a theory that every criminal leaves a clue because of feelings of quilt.
This is a big break in the case. Just Follow The Money.

sop

(18,355 posts)
7. The DOJ charged her, then dropped the charges. Did federal prosecutors even look at her bank account?
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 08:31 AM
Sunday

From U.S. Attorney's Office, Southern District of New York: Correctional Officers Charged With Falsifying Records On August 9th And 10th At The Metropolitan Correctional Center, Tuesday, November 19, 2019

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/correctional-officers-charged-falsifying-records-august-9th-and-10th-metropolitan

OhioBlue

(5,185 posts)
32. She was indicted when SDNY was still being run by Geoffrey Berman who was a thorn in Trump's side
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 08:18 PM
Sunday

Berman was appointed acting US attorney by Jeff Sessions for a 120 day term. Then the judges of the district unanimously appointed him for an indefinite period until there was a senate confirmed appointment - which Trump never got. But he did fire Sessions and replaced him with Bill Barr who eventually in the summer of 2020 forced Berman out, initially Berman refused until Barr agreed to replace him with his deputy, Audrey Strauss who brought charges against Ghislaine Maxwell.

When Biden took office, Chuck Schumer recommended Damian Williams for SDNY. He took office in October 2021 and the charges were dropped in December 2021

After the 2024 election results, Williams announced his resignation to take effect in December 2024 and he went back to Paul Weiss (where he had worked 2009-2012)

Paul Weiss is the firm that was led by Brad Karp (in the Epstein files) and agreed to give the Trump admin $40 million in pro-bono work and eliminate DEI policies in exchange for Trump rescinding his executive order targeting firm employees and taking away security clearances and access to federal buildings.

In June of 2025 Williams resigned from Paul Weiss to move to a smaller firm that stood up to the Trump administration.

I'm not accusing Williams of anything.... but... wouldn't he have known that Brad Karp was in the Epstein files before he went to Paul Weiss for the second time?

Haggard Celine

(17,799 posts)
5. One would think he wouldn't deposit the money all at once.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 08:24 AM
Sunday

Not if he was guilty. Of course he would want it to look that way. Whoever gave him the money probably told him what to do with it and what to say if he was asked about it. He has a story, I'm sure.

rubbersole

(11,161 posts)
12. AG Bill Barr ran that whole show.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:01 AM
Sunday

Would have received all the "evidence", video and otherwise, collected during the raids on Epstine's properties. Makes ol' Billy an extremely powerful man. Just sayin'.

leftstreet

(40,156 posts)
15. He's gone so silent, he's almost a myth
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:29 AM
Sunday

You practically have to Google him to find out if he's still alive

Hmm...

erronis

(23,571 posts)
17. Bill Barr had Epstein "suicided". Bill Barr, son of Donald Barr who hired Epstein at his school. Small world.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:30 AM
Sunday

multigraincracker

(37,417 posts)
22. I know polygraph test are worthless, even though I passed mine and my ex(an excop) refused to take it.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:08 AM
Sunday

Then I got my property back.
So, I guess I need to search it, does truth serum work?

anyone know?

superpatriotman

(6,861 posts)
16. From another article:
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:30 AM
Sunday
According to Department of Justice documents and FBI computer forensics records, correctional officer Tova Noel searched the internet for updates about Epstein on the morning of his passing.
The FBI’s analysis of prison computers claimed Noel searched “latest on Epstein in jail” at 5:42 a.m., and again at 5:52 a.m. on August 10, 2019.
Less than 40 minutes later, Epstein was found lifeless in his cell.…

gab13by13

(31,972 posts)
20. Oh there's more to corroborate that Epstein was strangled.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 10:38 AM
Sunday

The X-rays of his neck when looked at by 2 forensic doctors stated that his 3 broken bones were not consistent from a hanging but were consistent for strangulation.

Mme. Defarge

(8,994 posts)
21. From the article -
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:02 AM
Sunday

"The number of troubling 'coincidences' keeps piling up regarding the death of Jeffrey Epstein," he wrote on X. "The investigation into Epstein’s death must be reopened and conducted by an independent entity, instead of by people who work under a giant banner of Trump’s face."

I have always wondered about the “coincidence” of the power blackout in NYC the day his body was discovered.

Mme. Defarge

(8,994 posts)
24. Well, this is weird -
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:28 AM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2026, 12:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I just did a search on the NYC power blackout on the day of Epstein’s death and found no confirmation of it. But I clearly remember watching a news show that was reporting on the death and also discussing the power outage throughout the city and showing aerial views of the city after dark.

Oneironaut

(6,279 posts)
25. It's so obvious he was suicided.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 11:34 AM
Sunday

If the skip in the jail camera footage didn’t make it obvious, this should. He was suicided, and, the guards were paid off imo - probably in increments to not look suspicious.

A lot of powerful people were his co-conspirators. They didn’t want him to talk. I’m surprised Ghislaine Maxwell is still alive tbh. This is all purely imo.

haele

(15,329 posts)
30. Maxwell came from money and has a network behind her.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:19 PM
Sunday

Her father was a high level diplomat and double agent for various competing countries, and she has cover from sope powerful people and organizations.
Chances are, she probably not only procured "product" for Epstein, she was the partner that made all the connections in the high international finance and government circles she grew up in.

Epstein did not have her background. He might have had "charm" and cultivated connections and worked for high class mobsters, but he wasn't really in their class and circle.
Easy enough to make him a fall guy.
She's probably also got a "if I die, this all comes out" plan somewhere, people in her position always do.
So her living a comfortable life in Club Fed might be boring, but safer for everyone involved. Eventually, she expects to be released. If everything goes to their plan, that is.

Bluetus

(2,656 posts)
29. The reporting is that guards were heard trying to revive Epstein and when unsuccessful
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:03 PM
Sunday

one of them said "You killed him", apparently referring to Tova Noel. If that is true, it isn't a cover-up. It is a murder.

It isn't clear how or why Ms. Noel would have wanted to kill him, or why anybody would commit murder for $5000. The implication nof the reporting is that the other guards evidently thought it was an accident. But the $5000 certainly casts doubt on any accident theory.

I can't think of any accident scenario like this. Was she just trying to rough him up? That wouldn't make mu sense.

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