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highplainsdem

(61,626 posts)
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:04 AM Yesterday

Trump's Iran Blunders Suddenly Look Darker after Damning New Leaks Hit (Greg Sargent, The New Republic)

https://newrepublic.com/article/207666/trump-iran-blunders-suddenly-look-darker-damning-new-leaks-hit

This page has audio of Greg Sargent's latest podcast. Part of the intro:

For Donald Trump, the news is getting worse on his war against Iran. The New York Times reports that the Trump team badly miscalculated Iran’s response to the American invasion, leading to a developing energy fiasco. The Times also reports that some officials are pessimistic about the lack of any real strategy to end the war, adding this: “They have been careful not to express that directly to the president, who has repeatedly declared that the military operation is a complete success.” Their fear of telling Trump the truth about our fix is highly unnerving....

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https://newrepublic.com/article/207670/transcript-trump-war-suddenly-looks-darker-damning-new-leaks-hit

This page has the transcript of the podcast. Excerpt:

Saunders: To be honest, I think he just has no grasp of what the situation really is. I think he wants brave captains to run the Strait of Hormuz like in Star Wars—you know, the Kessel Run or whatever it is. And I don’t mean to make light of it, because it’s a dangerous state of affairs. He wants these ships to be taking on very dangerous journeys through this very narrow, very shallow strait that may now have mines.

As he said in that clip, he said they’ve destroyed all their mining ships. That’s absolutely not true. They may have distributed some of the mines around Iran so that they couldn’t be targeted directly in one go. They may have already laid some mines. We don’t fully know, but I would say that is not something we can just take on Trump’s say-so.

This is not something the world, and in particular the financial world that insures these ships, and the companies that run these ships, and the pilots and captains, you know, the people who crew these ships, can unsee. Iran struck these tankers—at least three, at last count, that I saw today, and I may already be out of date. And if you look at these images of tankers on fire, what captain, what company in their right mind would send a tanker laden with fuel through the Strait of Hormuz? It’s really dangerous.

And so there’s been talk of a naval escort by the U.S., and the Navy is simply not equipped to do that. And even if it were, it really does not want to, because it makes the U.S. naval ships a target as well, right? These ballistic missiles that Iran has could hit these ships—they can attack them from the shore and they can also mine the Strait. And this is a problem that U.S. military planners and analysts, national security analysts, and presidential administrations have been thinking about for 20 years. And every president until Trump has been deterred from doing it, precisely because this is such a mess.

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Trump's Iran Blunders Suddenly Look Darker after Damning New Leaks Hit (Greg Sargent, The New Republic) (Original Post) highplainsdem Yesterday OP
Trump is a moron. Picturelady Yesterday #1
I just wish that folks HarryM Yesterday #11
I heard he has small feet. reACTIONary 12 hrs ago #29
The problem is the rest of the Epstein party are equally as idiotic debsy 16 hrs ago #21
Trump and everyone who follows his orders and everyone who voted for him is a moron. Martin68 15 hrs ago #23
Operation Epstein Fury Be Leave On 12 hrs ago #30
He's so fucking stupid he gives morons a bad name.... AZ8theist 9 hrs ago #32
I'm Thinking the Odds of a 100 FT Tall Gold Statue of Tillerson... ForeGoneLegsBirne 6 hrs ago #33
His cabinet won't even tell him the shoes don't fit. mountain grammy Yesterday #2
Blackmail, honeypots, videos, Epstein. TheRickles Yesterday #9
And I've seen better cabinets HarryM Yesterday #12
They wanna keep their jobs ITAL 14 hrs ago #25
Maybe that's true, I don't know mountain grammy 14 hrs ago #26
The political list? ITAL 10 hrs ago #31
Your post reminds me of descriptions that I have read wnylib 3 hrs ago #35
I was thinking more like this! mountain grammy 2 hrs ago #36
MF47 is even more bloody minded than Der Fuhrer himself Ponietz Yesterday #3
I think that's a real possibility SamuelTheThird Yesterday #4
There is another prism... GiqueCee Yesterday #5
Russia has made over $6 billion from oil sales since Trump attacked Iran. Lonestarblue Yesterday #8
You're definitely onto something. Wednesdays Yesterday #10
And his bank account is his interest - not those of the American citizens. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #18
I read that maritime labor law allows crews to say no IbogaProject Yesterday #6
Republicans in congress could end this chaos very quickly Buckeyeblue Yesterday #7
If it were NOT popsdenver Yesterday #17
Can anyone on this site see this ending well? 1WorldHope Yesterday #13
Dumb Leader modrepub Yesterday #14
Well, Trump is the dumb-fuckiest dumb-fuck. So it all makes sense.. nt Exp Yesterday #15
And the money lines are? peggysue2 Yesterday #16
He is indeed a demented destroyer. yellow dahlia 19 hrs ago #19
Fox "news" and their favorite PEDO invaded Cha 18 hrs ago #20
PLEASE add Fox News host and alcoholic Hegseth. He has blood on his hands too vapor2 15 hrs ago #22
Air drop him on one of those ships and he can stand like a hero on the bridge, Bev54 15 hrs ago #24
Regime Change! BidenRocks 14 hrs ago #27
Forget "mining ships" jmowreader 13 hrs ago #28
Oh look... OldBaldy1701E 4 hrs ago #34

Picturelady

(8 posts)
1. Trump is a moron.
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:26 AM
Yesterday

How many of you remember 2017 when Rex Tillerson, his Sec. of State quit. Told a friend, He is a f@$#ing moron! Well he's more moronic than ever. Congress needs to pull the plug on him. Our country is in danger.

HarryM

(458 posts)
11. I just wish that folks
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:37 AM
Yesterday

would stop calling him a moron. It is an insult to morons. He has an IQ about the same as his shoe size.

debsy

(899 posts)
21. The problem is the rest of the Epstein party are equally as idiotic
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 08:06 PM
16 hrs ago

There is no reasoning with any of them. They are cultists through and through.

️If any reasonable, moderate republicans existed, they would have left the party or their seat in Congress by now…

Be Leave On

(424 posts)
30. Operation Epstein Fury
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:48 PM
12 hrs ago

Operation Epstein Fury is rapidly turning into Operation Epic Failure.

33. I'm Thinking the Odds of a 100 FT Tall Gold Statue of Tillerson...
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 05:29 AM
6 hrs ago

Emblazoned With That Quote on the DC Mall Is Now 70-30 Over the 300 Ft Statue of Trump the Conqueror of the Persians... and EXXON is Gonna Pay to BUILD THAT STATUE!!!

mountain grammy

(28,963 posts)
2. His cabinet won't even tell him the shoes don't fit.
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:01 AM
Yesterday

are they actually, really afraid of him? Physically? Mentally? Economically?.. ahhh, I think it's the last. Greed always win.

ITAL

(1,314 posts)
25. They wanna keep their jobs
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:30 PM
14 hrs ago

And he has no problem turning on them, which means they'll lose their voters. Basically everyone who has ever seriously crossed him has lost.

mountain grammy

(28,963 posts)
26. Maybe that's true, I don't know
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:44 PM
14 hrs ago

But I don’t think so. He was on the news during the 70’s when I still lived in the NY area. An obnoxious blowhard, but I didn’t really follow him. Who lost, besides Epstein and his first wife and the contractors he stiffed?

ITAL

(1,314 posts)
31. The political list?
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:59 AM
10 hrs ago

Well, I'm also including some who retired because they knew they'd lose, but just some include-

Liz Cheney, Jeff Flake, Tom Rice, Adam Kinzinger, Jaime Herrera Beutler, and Will Hurd.


Those are just the national folks. Then you have some of the state level people like Russell Bowers who undoubtedly lost because their refusal to overturn the 2020 election results.

wnylib

(25,732 posts)
35. Your post reminds me of descriptions that I have read
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 08:46 AM
3 hrs ago

about Hitler's staff when Germany was losing the war. They could not tell him that they were losing or risk defying him when he ordered that they could not retreat. He ordered children from Hitler Youth to defend Berlin. If they refused, they were shot for cowardice. If they obeyed, they were killed by Allied fighting.

Ponietz

(4,278 posts)
3. MF47 is even more bloody minded than Der Fuhrer himself
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:04 AM
Yesterday

Take him away in a straight jacket. MF WILL drop nukes if he doesn’t get his way.

SamuelTheThird

(995 posts)
4. I think that's a real possibility
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:06 AM
Yesterday

He will get supremely frustrated with the worsening economic situation. Will the military do it? If not, we will need a coup. This is fucked

GiqueCee

(3,971 posts)
5. There is another prism...
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:16 AM
Yesterday

... through which to view this clusterfuck. Never lose sight of the irrefutable fact that Trump is a Russian asset. Putin doesn't always have to give Trump instructions; his staggering stupidity and narcissistic arrogance virtually assures that anything he does will ultimately serve Putin's interests. Strangling the standard delivery routes of oil tankers cripples the West's fuel dependency, and hamstrings the US economy. A win-win for Vlad The Impaler. It may also force Europe to reconsider its position on Russian oil and natural gas, reopening a critical revenue stream for Russia.
Nothing Trump says or does is ever in the best interests of this country. Everything has to serve his malicious intentions and his fragile ego at the moment. Forethought is not now, nor has it ever been, part of his makeup.

Lonestarblue

(13,451 posts)
8. Russia has made over $6 billion from oil sales since Trump attacked Iran.
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:28 AM
Yesterday

Just what they needed to continue fueling their war on Ukraine. Coincidence? Probably not.

Wednesdays

(22,425 posts)
10. You're definitely onto something.
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:36 AM
Yesterday

No matter how bad things are in the Hormuz Strait, the ports on the Black Sea and Baltic Sea are still fully operational.

IbogaProject

(5,812 posts)
6. I read that maritime labor law allows crews to say no
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:24 AM
Yesterday

Since it is an active war crews can say no way are we moving through hostilities. I read an account in the Wall Street Journal comments, Japanese Capitain, ship built in Korea, owned by a Panama Corp, flagged in Cameroon with mostly Filipeno (his spelling) crew. He said he'd support them saying No and they would take sippy cups from China to Europe the long way instead.

Buckeyeblue

(6,336 posts)
7. Republicans in congress could end this chaos very quickly
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:25 AM
Yesterday

It's obvious the Trump is incapable of leading any longer. If his advisors can't tell him the truth, it's time to go.

Again, this is on Republicans and everyone running against an incumbent Senator or House member should make this an issue. And the message is simple: They represent Donald Trump, not you. It's time that you have representation.

popsdenver

(2,184 posts)
17. If it were NOT
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:49 AM
Yesterday

For the Republican House Members, The Republican Senators, and the Republican U.S. Supreme Court Justices,
Trump wouldn't have made it past his first week, in his first term.....

THEY ALL ARE TO SHOULDER 100% OF THE BLAME..........


The Senators that voted not to impeach him, should be the first arrested, and Given Life Sentences, without Parole.
Or better yet, send them to that horrific Prison down in El Salvador?

1WorldHope

(2,011 posts)
13. Can anyone on this site see this ending well?
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:42 AM
Yesterday

I don't know about you but I'm losing hope. I'm starting to think I should bury my head in the sand and enjoy the time we have left.

modrepub

(4,070 posts)
14. Dumb Leader
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:43 AM
Yesterday

A play on Trump’s NK bestie “Dear Leader”.

And by the way, I saw something saying Iranian missiles borrowed NK technology. Another bit of sad evidence that Trump’s choice of people he admires endangers us all.

peggysue2

(12,504 posts)
16. And the money lines are?
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 11:45 AM
Yesterday
They have been careful not to express that directly to the president, who has repeatedly declared that the military operation is a complete success.” Their fear of telling Trump the truth about our fix is highly unnerving....

Because this is what you get when you're dealing with an incompetent 'president' who surrounds himself with incompetent lackeys. They're too afraid to bust his balls with the truth while he destroys the last shred of global respect for the United States and is willing to burn the world down due to ignorance and arrogance.

Agent Orange is NOT a decider. Agent Orange IS a demented destroyer.






Cha

(318,610 posts)
20. Fox "news" and their favorite PEDO invaded
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 05:32 PM
18 hrs ago

Bombed and invaded Iran.

And Fetterman's on board.

Bev54

(13,407 posts)
24. Air drop him on one of those ships and he can stand like a hero on the bridge,
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:23 PM
15 hrs ago

while they run the straight and he can die a martyr.

jmowreader

(53,111 posts)
28. Forget "mining ships"
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 10:58 PM
13 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qader_(missile)

Iran's Qader missile is an antiship, sea-skimming cruise missile weapon (that means it flies really low and has sensors in it that allow it to follow the contours of the earth) that can be launched from a truck on land. This means the Iranians don't have to hope the Other Side doesn't just...I don't know, maybe just give the lowest man on the ship's totem pole a pair of binoculars and a bazooka and have him shoot any floating mines he sees...or bring a minesweeper in to clear any mines that might be in the Strait of Hormuz.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,993 posts)
34. Oh look...
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 07:59 AM
4 hrs ago

The FO stage is here!

Saying they had any forethought to anything is a stretch.

We are being governed by five year olds.

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