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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPalantir CEO Makes Shocking Confession on Disrupting Democratic Power
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Palantir CEO Alex Karp thinks his AI technology will lessen the power of highly educated, often female voters, who vote mostly Democrat while increasing the power of working-class men.
This technology disrupts humanities-trainedlargely Democraticvoters, and makes their economic power less. And increases the economic power of vocationally trained, working-class, often male, working-class voters, Karp said in a CNBC interview Thursday. And so these disruptions are gonna disrupt every aspect of our society. And to make this work, we have to come to an agreement of what it is were going to do with the technology; how are we gonna explain to people who are likely gonna have less good, and less interesting jobs.
This sounds like a direct, long-term pitch to the GOP from a CEO whose tech firm already has numerous government contracts and is deeply embedded in the Pentagon. Karps message is loud and clear: My technology will take political capital away from one of your greatest enemiesliberal women with degreesand give one of your favorite demographics to patronizeworking-class menmore political power to transfer to you. Hes aligning his technology with both GOP political strategy and the larger male-centered culture war that the right has been waging for the better part of a decade now. And how exactly would his technology only hurt Democrat women?
Karp also made a Patriot Actera argument, justifying his admittedly dangerous technology by claiming that Palantir will allow us to be American in the future.
These technologies are dangerous societally, Karp continued. The only justification you could possibly have would be that if we dont do it, our adversaries will do it. And we will be subject to their rule of law. Why is it that were absorbing the risk of disrupting the very fabric of our society, including the most powerful parts of our society, if its not because its about maintaining our ability to be American in the near term and long term?
*snip*
Fuck this dude.
dweller
(28,246 posts)The only justification you could possibly have would be that if we dont do it, our adversaries will do it. And we will be subject to their rule of law.
Why is it that were absorbing the risk of disrupting the very fabric of our society
P25 playbook
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Initech
(108,535 posts)They should all be expelled. Palantir is an extremely evil corporation that should not exist in a free society.
flamingdem
(40,850 posts)He's pure maga with this statement.
popsdenver
(2,184 posts)the Corporation from California/Colorado to TEXAS???????????
It's not just Republicans in Congress, Supereme Court, and Republican Mass Media.........
It 's the CORPORATIONS that put them all in power..........
I am waiting for them to re-name The United States of America....to: The United Fascist Corporations of America
Orwell was a true Visionary, and he warned us...........
EYESORE 9001
(29,657 posts)but Id settle for making him feel what he will describe as torture, when its actually no worse than paying a proportionate amount of tax to the benefits you already enjoy in a civilized society. I dont think this fucker would prefer lack of civilization, what with so many people with nothing to lose setting out on a quest for that tasty billionaire meat.
aggiesal
(10,741 posts)EYESORE 9001
(29,657 posts)A rom-com, in fact. Jennifer Anniston shouts that phrase at Kevin Costner in Rumor Has It
.
That line was the best thing in the whole movie.
MustLoveBeagles
(15,950 posts)live love laugh
(16,341 posts)BaronChocula
(4,461 posts)that white working-class men (white, in particular) are in the tank for the super-rich.
erronis
(23,604 posts)Duh.
SamKnause
(14,870 posts)OMGWTF
(5,089 posts)lastlib
(28,102 posts)I hope it was a stegasaurus.
poli-junkie
(1,553 posts)leader of the incels. Just how would he go about suppressing women?
BattleRow
(2,308 posts)Whoa!
Seems like Palantir is stealing the playbook.
Avalon Sparks
(2,748 posts)Then more women may have to depend on a man for her livelihood.
Thats all the gop has to offer these days - female wive slaves that men can be boss of.
Seriously, Heritage Foundation recently released a whole dissertation about strengthening the family or as I call it single women bad.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,936 posts)Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami.
See you in November, Palintir Fuckwad.
IcyPeas
(25,359 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(22,936 posts)Too many other variables involved, especially this year.
Wednesdays
(22,425 posts)...is like the 3 meter tall seawall Japan had in 2011, against the 12 meter high tsunami.
lastlib
(28,102 posts)"The first thing we do, let's kill all the billionaires."
Sounds like a plan.........
DinahMoeHum
(23,558 posts). . .and their grandchildren.
destroy the generational transfer of their ill-gotten wealth.
mountain grammy
(28,963 posts)Fuck this dude. WTF!!! I assume hes completely disconnected from women and even Americans.
highplainsdem
(61,626 posts)FakeNoose
(41,284 posts)Alex Karp is an asshole and he's anti-American.
highplainsdem
(61,626 posts)Nevilledog
(55,033 posts)NBachers
(19,394 posts)skypilot
(9,119 posts)...with this fucker. Just looked him up on Wikipedia and he graduated from my high school two years after I did, so he would have been a sophomore when I was a senior. I never met him and don't remember him.
belpejic
(793 posts)I'm convinced that this guy Karp is a psychopath. He's definitely a loose cannon, and is probably far less intelligent than he thinks he is. He really should not be making such consequential decisions about how surveillance technology is deployed by the federal government.
hunter
(40,636 posts)The quicker this AI party ends, the less mess there will be to clean up.
catsudon
(900 posts)i promise to use those ill gotten gains for good
Clouds Passing
(7,864 posts)FadedMullet
(865 posts)Grins
(9,420 posts)Any questions...?
SharonAnn
(14,169 posts)They basically think a monarchy and a few "aristocrats" would do the job better.
Read up on Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin. Scarey dudes!
Peter Thiel conducts seminars in Napa Valley promoting his ideas.
yellow dahlia
(5,619 posts)I found him very difficult to try and understand - his communication style is childish and incomplete. Indeed - he shouldn't be entrusted with anything.
The interviewer was very wishy washy - I don't know here name.
róisín_dubh
(12,303 posts)He speaks like a four year old.
Bread and Circuses
(1,934 posts)highly educated, often female voters, who vote mostly Democrat
Sounds like this guy knows ZERO Democratic women.
OR What Work they REALLY DO!
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MLWR
(980 posts)I promise I won't cry.
markodochartaigh
(5,444 posts)American is like Scotsmen, there is no true one.
milestogo
(22,985 posts)AND HE IS FULL OF KRAP.
ECL213
(445 posts)ain't gonna stop voting.
Jacson6
(1,936 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(835 posts)Do we really want a society where the roles requiring more educated people are replaced or destroyed by technology? Won't the educated people just wind up using the technology? How are they replaced and the less educated elevated?
lonely bird
(2,897 posts)It increases the power of emotionally stunted little Techbros.
ChicagoTeamster
(835 posts)He works for Peter Thiel. Together they must be like Smithers and Mr Burns.
uponit7771
(93,528 posts)C Moon
(13,606 posts)valleyrogue
(2,681 posts)Initech
(108,535 posts)No, we don't want what these fascist shitbags want! We want democracy and freedom!
Hassler
(4,898 posts)Out these fascist assholes who are committed to the enshitifaction of everything? It needs to be blown up.
mwmisses4289
(3,905 posts)Just those snippets of his conversation- did he take lessons in creating word salad from sara palin? What the freaking eff was he trying to say? I gave myself a headache attempting to make sense of that gibberish!
RainCaster
(13,632 posts)Peter Theil's sales pitch, pure and simple. What an asshole.
BadgerMom
(3,415 posts)And Thiel is pretty evil.
I feel silly using the word evil, but thats the correct word.
Mblaze
(985 posts)A vote is a vote. How can they engineer a refusal of votes from US citizens?
This technology disrupts humanities-trainedlargely Democraticvoters, and makes their economic power less. And increases the economic power of vocationally trained, working-class, often male, working-class voters, Again, how does the software accomplish this?
UpInArms
(54,829 posts)Who idolize the dark ages
Go live in a cave, you freaking monsters
I am so ashamed of the women who raised these things
mwmisses4289
(3,905 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 12, 2026, 09:02 PM - Edit history (1)
Once he hit adulthood, he made his own decisions. How much his parents way of raising him affected his decisions, and how much he basically said screw what they taught me and threw it out the window, once he became an adult, his decisions became his own.
UpInArms
(54,829 posts)If everything is transactional and monetary before the age of six, that programming can last a lifetime
Pisces
(6,212 posts)We may laugh or scoff at this disgusting nonsense but it is all over the place. Women are viewed as the enemy. We are viewed as natural Democrats. Here is a link to the article in the NY Mag
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/young-women-leaving-maga-new-right.html
It is terrifying. I also read the an article in the Times about a woman who went to see a young politician in Fl. And this was his incel message: Women are the enemy,
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/12/opinion/james-fishback-gen-z-republican-florida.html
This is not something we should laugh at this needs some action from our leaders. We need everyone to be awake. Hanmaids Tale was a primer for these fools. They are using it as a direct how to manual!!!
Nevilledog
(55,033 posts)Pisces
(6,212 posts)Like all things Trump does with zero thought to fall out. He will break things just to win. If married women cant vote due to name change you effectively cut off 40% of voting women. Limiting job prospects etc. We need to make this front and center. I feel fascism, racism, sexism all isms are taking over before our very eyes!
Nevilledog
(55,033 posts)rampartd
(4,525 posts)TygrBright
(21,356 posts)I know a lot of American working class males and none of them would a) want to knowingly degrade the democratic process for any reason, or b) want their mothers, sisters, daughters or granddaughters to forego education and every possible chance to live better lives than their parents and grand parents.
The noisome ravings of internet incels have convinced these lowlife grifters that "all" men who are not edgelord wannabes will joyfully welcome remaking society to leave people like Epstein and Elon in charge of everything, and they are absolutely wrong about that.
dismissively,
Bright
GiqueCee
(3,971 posts)Karp plumbs new depths of total assholery.
Blue Full Moon
(3,399 posts)The Mouth of Sauron is flapping his lips. Palantir was seeing eye stone used by Sauron. This company is the epitome of evil.
Blue Full Moon
(3,399 posts)It is CIA using venture capitalism to create tech to use against us. They made Palantir and the rest of that ilk possible.
TBF
(36,424 posts)ancianita
(43,284 posts)In 2024, Karp was 1143rd on the Forbes annual World's Billionaires List with a net worth of $2.9 billion.[39] In 2025 his net worth at times exceeded $18 billion, ranking him among the 200 wealthiest people in the world on the Forbes Real-Time Billionaires List[40] and the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.[41][42]
In naming him to the Time 100 list, the magazine noted that Karp had once quoted Samuel P. Huntington's The Clash of Civilizations in a letter he wrote to investors: "The rise of the West was not made possible 'by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion ... but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. [...] Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.'"[59] During a New York Times interview, Karp said that "you scare the crap out of your adversaries", asking, "Are we tough enough to scare our adversaries so we dont go to war? Do the Chinese, Russians and Persians think were strong?" Maureen Dowd, a journalist, said the interview was "brim[ming] with American chauvinism".[8]
In 2024 The New York Times again quoted Karp, who said that he and his company, Palantir, had "a consistently pro-Western view, that the West has a superior way of living and organizing itself".[8] In the same interview, Karp said that the US would very likely face a three-front war against China, Russia, and Iran in the future. He opined that the best way to prepare for such a war would be developing autonomous weapons. In Karp's opinion, the West and the China-Russia-Iran axis were at technological parity. However, he added, the West had a disadvantage when it came to moral disparity because the West would likely not use nuclear weapons, although their adversaries might. He also told the Times that he favored military conscription.[8]
On the other hand, he's been politically all over the map...
In 2018, Karp said he is a socialist[60] and a progressive ("but not woke"
.[8] In addition he said he voted for Hillary Clinton.[61] In 2024, the Financial Times identified Karp as "a major Biden donor".[62] Current Affairs editor Nathan J. Robinson wrote in 2024 that Karp "seems to have some idiosyncratic personal definition in mind that has nothing in common with the socialist tradition".[63] In 2024, Karp said that while he was "not thrilled" with the direction of the Democratic Party, he would still be "voting against Trump".[64] That same year, he called for the Democrats to project more strength, saying, "Are we tough enough to scare our adversaries so we dont go to war? Do the Chinese, Russians and Persians think we're strong? The president needs to tell them 'if you cross these lines, this is what were going to do', and you have to then enforce it." He has also protested open-border immigration policies in the U.S. and Europe: "You have an open border, you get the far right. [...] And once you get them, you can't get rid of them."[8] In 2025, he said that he views himself as a "classic [sic] liberal".[65][non-primary source needed]
In a November 2025 interview with Wired, he said that to a family member that disagreed with him in a private conversation, "I would be pointing out that Trumps decisions on AI, and his decisions on the Middle East, are very different than people in the Democratic Party would have made, and very good." Also, he would consider the Democratic Party to have left him if the Zohran Mamdani wing took over, which he viewed as the result of "[the] role played [by] universities and elite institutions [that are] teaching pagan religion views" ...
He has called Palantir a "counter-example" to companies he considers "woke".[68] In 2025, he adopted the framing woke left and woke right, defining the former as the aforementioned Mamdani wing and the latter as "everything is a conspiracy, any use of technology is actually going to only be used to eviscerate and attack us", categorizing both as "[opposed to] meritocracy".[66]...
Karp, with co-author with Nicholas Zamiska, published The Technological Republic: Hard Power, Soft Belief, and the Future of the West in February 2025. The book offers a critical perspective on Silicon Valley's complacency and the West's waning ambition, arguing that the software industry must partner with government to tackle urgent challenges, particularly the AI arms race.[91][92]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Karp
Martin68
(27,585 posts)angrychair
(12,184 posts)Al is evil. Billionaires are evil. All Al. All billionaires. No exceptions.
jfz9580m
(16,985 posts)Humans adapt to survive..
That said, as a highly educated, mediocre female scientist and feminist impacted precisely in those ways, who has no quarrel with working class men, I take an indulgent view this sort of sleazy and sad puffery by Alex Kaarp etc.
But the lack of survival instincts in these guys is scarier. And if this is a highly educated female, its part of the problem up top that these are the female counterparts of guys like Karp:
https://www.brandeis.edu/magazine/2024/summer/inquiry/weapons-dragonfly.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rana_el_Kaliouby
They can both go to hell. Fair and balanced! I have no respect for those women or for Joy Buolamwini. They can fuck right off along with Marc Andreessen, Paul Singer, the Koch brothers etc. I dont respect Clare Wu, Priscilla Chan, Sheryl Sandberg, Lucy Guo etc anymore than those men.
Fei Fei Li is the best of that type I would have to grudgingly acknowledge. At least she is a real scientist if she stops the human caring bullshit. But Affectiva is just bs and using the web of life for better weapons and misguided early warning systems etc is just obscene and alarming.
I came back to India permanently after seeing the world bullshit elites love (though I vaguely think France would be a cool place to briefly visit, but my work has been derailed too completely for me to plan)..I love it here as there are so many brainless creeps to report to the uncorrupted parts of the state.
I saw a piece by two IIT professors years ago: Trai please stop Facebooks free basics.
Couldnt agree more, but that applies just as much to indigenous parasites like Ambani as it does to Zuckerberg.
Actually, as I grudgingly changed my mind on John Hennessy, I am changing mine on Prof. Fei Fei Li. The caring crap is cloying and fake. But this is an emergency and it is all about survival and she is a scientist and not stupid.
I will stick with just tolerating Prof Hennessy. One of those types of people is about as much as one can stand and let it be the classical version of that type. I really do not get people who share any attributes with me and are inveigled except kicking and screaming into proximity with any of it.
Alex Karp is a child who needs a nurse maid.
betsuni
(29,005 posts)"corporate Dems" "identity politics" that they take for granted and look down on voters and only think about money, both sides are the same and Democrats are complicit and corrupt, do nothing "strongly worded letters," and all that stupid crap helps the right-wing.
OldBaldy1701E
(10,993 posts)Why is it every time someone like this guy says something along those lines it always means, "Being a bossy, egotistical, self-absorbed, delusional asshole."?
Icanthinkformyself
(382 posts)And, it has brought down the aristocracy in the past. The billionaire class is another arrogant aristocracy that will collapse. And, it's usually the wars the fascists start that they can't win that is the beginning of their end. We are in one of those now.