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4bonhoffer

(181 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 07:13 PM 4 hrs ago

Sticking with Treason

He and the republicans are aiding and abetting putin ( lifting oil sanctions ) while putin is providing Iran with satellite imagery that helps them to kill our troops. Explain why this is not treason, and why it is not the lead story of every news site. WTF

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Sticking with Treason (Original Post) 4bonhoffer 4 hrs ago OP
;-{}.... Goonch 4 hrs ago #1
Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution. TomSlick 2 hrs ago #2
I know, technicalities taken into account, no one wants to call it treason. slightlv 2 hrs ago #4
Already explained it in your last post. Fiendish Thingy 2 hrs ago #3
Well, you know blue-wave 2 hrs ago #5
"Krasnov" CoopersDad 2 hrs ago #6

TomSlick

(12,977 posts)
2. Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 08:59 PM
2 hrs ago

Article III, Section 3, Clause 1:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

The drafters were reacting to the tendency of English kings to label any affront to their personal dignity, e.g. having sex with the King's wife, as treason.

We are not at war with Russia. Therefore, the conduct you described cannot be treason. It's disloyal, a possible violation of foreign agent registration act, and maybe espionage but not treason.

slightlv

(7,747 posts)
4. I know, technicalities taken into account, no one wants to call it treason.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:27 PM
2 hrs ago

But damn... it's one of the reasons that people in the U.S. don't trust government. We KNOW treason when we see it. When you have a president who is aiding a country we've been at odds with for decades and decades people see it as treason; even if it doesn't fit this narrow definition. To me, that means not that it isn't treason... it means we need to expand that definition of treason to one of more common sense.

Meanwhile, to use your example, you've already got a "king" who's trying to imprison anyone who is in his way or is his "enemy"... much like your English king. I doubt anyone would want to try out Melania, but hea... trump is much more into his prepubescent girls, anyway.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,948 posts)
3. Already explained it in your last post.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:08 PM
2 hrs ago

Why do you need the facts repeated? Just go back to that thread.

blue-wave

(4,944 posts)
5. Well, you know
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:33 PM
2 hrs ago

there are those who are speculating about this:

Kremlin and Kazakhstan Both Have Kompromat on Trump, Says Ex-KGB Spy Chief

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/69648

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