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Ritabert
(2,358 posts)EdmondDantes_
(1,719 posts)Without having specific allegations it's hard to know, but I think a lot of men, particularly in the past, took a lot advantage. He's long been described as being authoritarian in his organization which probably led to its success, but can suck to work under.
Redleg
(6,907 posts)I have never sexually abused anyone.
Ritabert
(2,358 posts)I was harassed by some male doctors I worked with at a hospital. Luckily they weren't my bosses and I ignored them.
David__77
(24,603 posts)LeftInTX
(34,196 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,887 posts)fucking around.
Chasstev365
(7,669 posts)I'd like to see it before I judge.
W_HAMILTON
(10,318 posts)What happened between then and the last 30+ years to have them change their mind just this year?
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,887 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,318 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,887 posts)Ritabert
(2,358 posts)snot
(11,752 posts)I am so over the rule that says if anyone did anything bad, we have to cancel them, no matter how wonderful their contributions in other areas.
Can we please grow up and realize that humans are never either purely good or purely evil? Would anyone here really have wanted Pres. Clinton removed from office for accepting an extramarital blowjob?
I feel that we've too often allowed someone's failings to be used to remove them from history or from areas in which they could still be very helpful.
I don't care where human progress comes from; I don't care where the news comes from; all I care about is, is it genuinely helpful or informative?
WhiskeyGrinder
(26,887 posts)that, I think.
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WhiskeyGrinder
(26,887 posts)Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #21)
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WhiskeyGrinder
(26,887 posts)https://ufwfoundation.org/statement-from-the-ufw-foundation/
OldBaldy1701E
(11,035 posts)yardwork
(69,282 posts)Maybe society needs to push back hard on bad behavior in order to get people to change their ways.
If this private organization has some concerns about their namesake's behavior, I think the organization has both the right and obligation to decide their next steps. It's not government censorship.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,967 posts)And exalt anyone who is a ruling class bootlicker.
When are we going to figure this out?
Skittles
(171,400 posts)while supporting a multi-felon rapist seditious mass murderer
LeftInTX
(34,196 posts)Everyone was speculating. ICE at the march?
Chavez's issues with immigrants? (naa...that stuff is really old and well known)
I kinda thought maybe it was something like this.
Unlike other unions with plenty of infrastructure, UFW started out as a "rag tag" group. So, oversight, would be limited and if true, it would take awhile for victims to come forward.
Not saying it's true, not saying it's not true. But if you looking at UFW, I can see if it's true, that it took decades to surface.
Raine
(31,165 posts)probably contributed to his death and the thanks he gets is being canceled!
obamanut2012
(29,328 posts)That is dismisdive of the victims. He became not a great guy by the end if his life, so I am not surprised.
JI7
(93,531 posts)< We have not received any direct reports, and we do not have any firsthand knowledge of these allegations, the union said. >
The comparisons to Epstein don't work here as there is a lot of evidence in that case .
BannonsLiver
(20,527 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(26,887 posts)new thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221105629
Original OP:
The union, in a statement released Tuesday, did not detail the accusations against Chavez but said they were concerning enough for the organization to take action. Several events around the country honoring Chavez have been canceled in recent weeks.
The claims against Chavez are incompatible with our organizations values. Some of the reports are family issues, and not our story to tell or our place to comment on. Far more troubling are allegations involving abuse of young women or minors. Allegations that very young women or girls may have been victimized are crushing. We have not received any direct reports, and we do not have any firsthand knowledge of these allegations, the union said.
Canceling events, the union said, would provide space for people who may have been victimized to find support and to share their stories if that is what they choose.
Update:
https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/cesar-chavez-allegations-march-cancel-san-antonio-22080919.php
archive link: https://archive.ph/jN1Vu
The fallout has already led to the cancellation of public marches across the country and raised new questions about his public record.
In a statement released Tuesday, the United Farm Workers said it had learned of deeply troubling allegations that Chávez behaved in ways incompatible with our organizations values, including claims involving abuse of young women or minors.
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Multiple sources told the San Antonio Express-News that a report by a national news publication is expected in the coming weeks and may be driving the cancellations of marches and the response.