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surfered

(13,274 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 10:45 AM Yesterday

For my fellow DUers confused by the United States war with Iran:

The President is now simultaneously claiming that he won the war, is currently wining the war, needs help to win the war, and needs no help to win the war.

All to destroy the nuclear program he claims to have already destroyed last year.

Hope this helps.

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For my fellow DUers confused by the United States war with Iran: (Original Post) surfered Yesterday OP
Yep, Jibber...jabber always explains failure. walkingman Yesterday #1
And we need $200 billion to win that war which is already won. nt Shermann Yesterday #2
And, of course: why would Nuttyyahoo have used Epstein dirt to extort Cheeto into said war? peppertree 16 hrs ago #55
Yep, that makes it easy to understand. Emile Yesterday #3
Thank you. I am now knowledgeable. About what, I don't know. NT mahatmakanejeeves Yesterday #4
I feel stupider after COL Mustard Yesterday #22
That makes everything crystal clear... Spazito Yesterday #5
Hims brain wires is crossed and causing a short circus in hims head struggle4progress Yesterday #6
Hahaha Joinfortmill Yesterday #17
True. And that malady is widespread in Congress and with MAGAites. FailureToCommunicate Yesterday #21
"And the Strait of Hormuz is a very quick, simple and easy job, but I can't do it" dalton99a Yesterday #7
Damn strait! BattleRow Yesterday #35
Good one. wnylib Yesterday #36
Ha! Scott Alan Swaggerty 21 hrs ago #50
He thrives on kaos, to disract from Epstein, and physical chaos to declare his "marshall" law usonian Yesterday #8
Oh my. When you said he thrives on chaos, wnylib Yesterday #38
Bernie "KAOS" Kopell inside. usonian Yesterday #42
OT, but I wanted to add area51 15 hrs ago #56
Wow. Didn't know she was still alive. wnylib 15 hrs ago #57
translation TBF Yesterday #9
Ironically he has ruined the 1 thing he can point to--lower gas prices Buckeyeblue Yesterday #28
You forgot, eggs are only twice as expensive as they used to be, instead of ten times as expensive. Iggo Yesterday #39
Nailed it malaise Yesterday #10
Thank you for your attention to this matter. Swede Yesterday #11
😁 surfered Yesterday #18
Thank you for illluminating the situation. Amaryllis Yesterday #12
Well, that seems, well, Trump. twodogsbarking Yesterday #13
That was yesterday. Let's see what today brings. 33taw Yesterday #14
Truly surfered Yesterday #19
Trump is an Escher drawing come to life. (n/t) thesquanderer Yesterday #15
That's an insult to Escher! HarryM Yesterday #25
Omg. He's a demented horse's ass. Joinfortmill Yesterday #16
Thank you for your explanation that makes everything as clear as mud. mwmisses4289 Yesterday #20
Thank you for that excellent explanation surfered. It all makes sense now! KPN Yesterday #23
That just makes it confusing for some HarryM Yesterday #24
What else can we expect from this "stable genius"? La Coliniere Yesterday #26
Well,a stable is where most horses asses are,right? BattleRow 20 hrs ago #51
Perfectly clear orangecrush Yesterday #27
And all after he tore up the agreement that Pres. Obama had negotiated with Iran. Nt spooky3 Yesterday #29
If only the Japanese would send Godzilla... sop Yesterday #30
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #31
😂😂😂😂😂 underpants Yesterday #32
+1 dalton99a Yesterday #41
Those are great! surfered 16 hrs ago #54
Thanks! That really clears things up! Turbineguy Yesterday #33
He's a fucking mad man ZDU Yesterday #34
...and also that it's not a war. Iggo Yesterday #37
You forgot that we should be grateful for the higher gas prices newdeal2 Yesterday #40
And it's actually "NOT a war" Pluvious 23 hrs ago #43
Haha. The not-a-war War Scott Alan Swaggerty 21 hrs ago #49
You mean the Epstein war. nt Javaman 22 hrs ago #44
+1 Scott Alan Swaggerty 21 hrs ago #48
Its all Cherokee100 22 hrs ago #45
Why flip flop when your base and, to a lesser extent, the media will let you just get away with contradictory claims? Ilikepurple 22 hrs ago #46
Sums it up. The decision-making here is almost as bad as the job market. Scott Alan Swaggerty 21 hrs ago #47
Trump won't be happy Aussie105 17 hrs ago #52
I agree with Professor Snyder LetMyPeopleVote 16 hrs ago #53
Interesting quote jfz9580m 9 hrs ago #58
Stealing! Dyedinthewoolliberal 3 hrs ago #59

peppertree

(23,302 posts)
55. And, of course: why would Nuttyyahoo have used Epstein dirt to extort Cheeto into said war?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 09:43 PM
16 hrs ago

All the Epstein files have been already released, don'tchaknow.

COL Mustard

(8,186 posts)
22. I feel stupider after
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 12:37 PM
Yesterday

Any event where I listen to him speak. He’s personally removed at least 25 IQ points from my already room temperature intelligence.

usonian

(25,056 posts)
8. He thrives on kaos, to disract from Epstein, and physical chaos to declare his "marshall" law
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:11 AM
Yesterday

wnylib

(25,873 posts)
38. Oh my. When you said he thrives on chaos,
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:45 PM
Yesterday

I had a quick mental image memory of Maxwell Smart and his sidekick, Agent 99, fighting against their arch enemy, CHAOS.

Except to them, CHAOS was an enemy, not their friend, even though Smart constantly created chaos in his wake.

TBF

(36,547 posts)
9. translation
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:25 AM
Yesterday

orange guy is giving Bibi cover, because it's a great distraction from sinking poll numbers, devastating economy, and epstein/trump files. all orange guy wants to do is make billions and stay out of jail.

Buckeyeblue

(6,345 posts)
28. Ironically he has ruined the 1 thing he can point to--lower gas prices
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:13 PM
Yesterday

Honestly, that was only thing that seemed to be cheaper. And now that's gone. Gas is higher today than it ever was under Biden. $3.99 in my southwest Michigan town.

Iggo

(49,904 posts)
39. You forgot, eggs are only twice as expensive as they used to be, instead of ten times as expensive.
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:47 PM
Yesterday

HarryM

(461 posts)
24. That just makes it confusing for some
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:04 PM
Yesterday

For others, it is quite clear that he hasn’t a clue, and is lying his posterior off.

La Coliniere

(1,912 posts)
26. What else can we expect from this "stable genius"?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:08 PM
Yesterday

His ability to appraise a situation is the greatest we’ve ever seen!

newdeal2

(5,356 posts)
40. You forgot that we should be grateful for the higher gas prices
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 01:47 PM
Yesterday

Trump is saving us...from something bad...

Cherokee100

(453 posts)
45. Its all
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 02:58 PM
22 hrs ago

It's all about the Epstein files and how much money, trump is putting in his pocket/off shore bank accounts.

Ilikepurple

(627 posts)
46. Why flip flop when your base and, to a lesser extent, the media will let you just get away with contradictory claims?
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 03:15 PM
22 hrs ago

Once you accept a contradiction, it’s hard to refute its constituent statements both in logic and practice. We voters generally disfavor flip floppers as being insincere opportunists, but what do we say when someone holds opposite views concurrently? One would hope that our response as a voting population would be even more severe, but alas we unsuccessfully are relegated to arguing against both propositions simultaneously. I think it is rather successful at muddling our minds’ natural and learned logical intuition.

Aussie105

(7,884 posts)
52. Trump won't be happy
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 08:14 PM
17 hrs ago

until the rest of the world is as confused and in as much of a shambles as the inside of his head.

Job only partly done, but he and his flying monkeys are working on it.

The pointless deaths and destruction are his and Bibi's contribution to the world.

You can thank them later.
The WW2 Mussolini 'reward' might be appropriate.
Or the Sadam Hussein 'reward'.
Either one will do.

One thing I have been wondering about though:
The US has declared Iran the 'bad guy who shouldn't have nukes' and it's ok to murder their leadership.
What happens if Iran decides the US is the 'bad guy', and shouldn't have nukes, then repays the leadership murder part of the drama?

jfz9580m

(17,139 posts)
58. Interesting quote
Sun Mar 22, 2026, 04:35 AM
9 hrs ago

Timothy Snyder? I have heard of him. He is a history professor who moved to Canada.

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