Sez who?

[madamesilverspurs]

Watching the "voter ID" discussions on Cspan2, and every republican speaker claims that "80% of Americans" want it. Just curious -- what poll are they citing? Pretty sure that, if we were asked, 100% of us would NOT want to be disenfranchised.


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[SheltieLover]

1. 100% of the ruskie ASSets in our govt want it

[underpants]

2. That's answers to generic overall questions like "Should you have to show some ID to vote"

It could be asked as “some form of ID” or “a driver’s license” or “a state issued ID” AND “to vote” could be interpreted as at the poll or as when you register or re-register (you moved).

Variations of the question and how they are received doesn’t reflect what’s in the SAVE Act.


They got 80% and ran with it.

[Wiz Imp]

3. Voter ID in general is popular.

When informed of the problems and consequences of requiring voter ID, it garners much less support. Most people have no idea how most voter ID laws disenfranchise lots of voters.

The issue for those that oppose voter ID is the specifics of how it is implemented. Voter ID is fine as long as the implementation doesn't disenfranchise any voters.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/voting-process-photo-id-opinion-poll/
In voting process, photo ID gets wide support, Republicans more likely to believe there's fraud, CBS News poll finds


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/americans-support-photo-id-vote-democrats-oppose-save-america-act-rcna259549
Most Americans support requiring photo ID to vote. Democrats in Congress reject it.

A Pew Research Center poll in August tested a variety of election rules and found that 83% of U.S. adults support “requiring all voters to show government-issued photo identification to vote,” while 16% oppose it. That’s up from 77% support in a 2012 Pew poll.

Support now includes 71% of self-identified Democrats, 83% of independents and 76% of Black voters.

https://www.aclupa.org/news/aclu-pa-usually-opposes-voter-id-but-not-this-time/

ACLU-PA Usually Opposes Voter ID. But Not This Time.

That brief backstory brings us to 2025, where the ACLU of Pennsylvania does not oppose the latest iteration of voter ID to be introduced in the Pennsylvania General Assembly. You may have just heard a needle scratch in your head and a voice saying, “You may be wondering how I got here.”

It’s true. ACLU-PA is neutral (neither supportive nor opposed) to House Bill 771, as it’s been introduced. And the reason is clear cut: the current language of the bill implements an increased voter ID requirement without disenfranchising voters, by providing fail-safes for voters who don’t have any version of the acceptable ID.

Typically, the problem with voter ID bills and laws, both in Pennsylvania and around the country, has been that they define what is acceptable ID too narrowly. Take the law we beat in 2012. That law required voters to show an unexpired government-issued photo ID. There was a slew of IDs that couldn’t be used to vote if the law had ever been implemented. Bank statement, utility bill, VA card, gun permit, Social Security card, university ID. All were unacceptable under the law. Heck, even the voter registration card that is issued by your county after it verifies that you’re eligible to vote couldn’t be used as an acceptable ID under that law.

Besides showing that hundreds of thousands of eligible voters didn’t have an ID that was permitted under that law, a handful of Pennsylvania voters told their stories to the court of how they’ve tried to get government-issued photo identification but hit hurdle after hurdle. Some had spent years trying to get an ID that would have been acceptable under the 2012 law but failed. They were voters who were eligible, had been voting for years and even decades without a problem, but faced losing their freedom to vote under that law.