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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,366 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 08:01 PM 16 hrs ago

'108-Point Swing!' CNN Data Guru Stunned by John Fetterman's Total Collapse Among Democrats

CNN’s Harry Enten highlighted Senator John Fetterman’s (D-PA) staggering polling collapse among Pennsylvania Democrats on Friday morning.

“John Fetterman is doing as well with Pennsylvania Democrats as the New York Giants are as liked in the state of Pennsylvania, or the commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I mean, just look at this. Among Pennsylvania Democrats and that approval of Fetterman, back in 2023, he was a Democrat liberal darling. He was at plus 68 points. Look at how low he has fallen down to negative 40 points! He’s down there with the Titanic among Democrats in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania!” marveled Enten at the outset of a segment with anchor John Berman. “And you know, to put a comparison point on it, you know we always talk about how Chuck Schumer is not well-liked by the Democratic base nationwide. Chuck Schumer has a net popularity rating of about minus two points. He is 38 points more popular than John Fetterman is with Pennsylvania Democrats. And I was also looking at Kyrsten Sinema, who of course ended up leaving the Democratic Party in Arizona. She was considerably more popular just before she shifted over than John Fetterman is at minus 40 points.”

“Is this a 108-point swing?” inquired Berman.

“This is a 108-point swing!” confirmed Enten.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/108-point-swing-cnn-data-152710418.html

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'108-Point Swing!' CNN Data Guru Stunned by John Fetterman's Total Collapse Among Democrats (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 16 hrs ago OP
Hope he swings his way into oblivion Blue Owl 15 hrs ago #1
You can stick a fork in this asshole because he is done. Borogove 14 hrs ago #2
The math ain't mathin'... regnaD kciN 14 hrs ago #3
CNN's Enten seems to have a gift for making easy to understand figures more sensational, but the math maths. Ilikepurple 13 hrs ago #4
correct....... Takket 13 hrs ago #5
At this point I don't consider him a Democrat D_Master81 13 hrs ago #6
If anyone is "stunned" about that... they Cha 13 hrs ago #7

regnaD kciN

(27,625 posts)
3. The math ain't mathin'...
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 10:11 PM
14 hrs ago

Leaving out undecideds, a 68-point margin works out to 84-16. A negative 40-point margin comes to 30-70. That means he's dropped 54 points. Using the notion of a "swing" is a trick to make the result seem more dramatic...but it's as meaningless at Trump claiming he'll drop medication costs by 400%.

Ilikepurple

(627 posts)
4. CNN's Enten seems to have a gift for making easy to understand figures more sensational, but the math maths.
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 10:50 PM
13 hrs ago

But it’s not as meaningless as Trump’s claim as math is still involved. It’s just presented in a nonstandard but equally understandable manner. If the fed was expected to raise its key interest rate 25 points but instead lowered it by 25 points, that is a 25 point difference. His net approval rating by democrats has fallen by over 100 points by this measure, although I agree your method is what we usually mean by change in approval ratings.

Takket

(23,696 posts)
5. correct.......
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:16 PM
13 hrs ago

these statements drive me nuts.

also drives me nuts when they say someone who has 30% approval and 70% disapproval is "40 points underwater". No, you are 20 points underwater, because that is percentage of people you need to flip to get back to majority 50% approval. (okay technically 50% + 1 more person, but you know what i mean). If you increased your approval percentage by 40 points you would be at 70% approval and 30% disapproval. which is WAY more than you need to be "above water".

(net approval is -40%, and distance to majority is 20%). it is correct that net approval shows "how many more people don't like you", so 40%, but distance to majority accounts for the fact that someone who goes disapproving to approving is causing a swing in BOTH metrics at the same time.

D_Master81

(2,540 posts)
6. At this point I don't consider him a Democrat
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:27 PM
13 hrs ago

He may have a D behind his name and I guess if that helps us retake the Senate great. But every time he opens his damn mouth it is to prop up Trump or shit on his party so I’m not sure what good he’s doing for us.

Cha

(318,746 posts)
7. If anyone is "stunned" about that... they
Sat Mar 21, 2026, 11:32 PM
13 hrs ago

haven't been paying attention to Fetterman's Fascist Utterings Against Patriots(DEMS)

Dems are Polar Opposite Smarter than Fascist Nazi Fucks like Traitor.

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