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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCheck your vehicle manuals to make sure yours can run E15 (Unleaded 88).
I stopped at a major gas station chain tonite and all of the regular and mid grade (E10) pumps were labeled E15.
I have a feeling some stations are being honest about this switch and others are NOT.
On YouTube, some have noticed they are getting about 3 mpg less on fills, which is indicative of a higher ethanol percentage and some stations are NOT labeling the change on the pumps.
Note: E10 means 10 pct ethanol, E15 means 15 pct.
dalton99a
(94,017 posts)AAA warns E15 gasoline could cause car damage
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"It is clear that millions of Americans are unfamiliar with E15, which means there is a strong possibility that many may improperly fill up using this gasoline and damage their vehicle," AAA President and CEO Robert Darbelnet tells USA TODAY. "Bringing E15 to the market without adequate safeguards does not responsibly meet the needs of consumers."
BMW, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota and VW have said their warranties will not cover fuel-related claims caused by E15. Ford, Honda, Kia, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo have said E15 use will void warranties, says Darbelnet, citing potential corrosive damage to fuel lines, gaskets and other engine components.
Bob Dinneen, CEO of the Renewable Fuels Association, says E15 is safe for virtually all post-2001 vehicles, based on extensive government-sponsored testing. "We think the (EPA) warning label should be sufficient to notify consumers,'' Dinneen says. "There are no corrosive issues with E15. If there's an issue with E15 (damaging vehicles) we're going to know about it, and the EPA is going to know about it."
But the American Petroleum Institute says a three-year study conducted by automakers and the oil industry found that E15 is a consumer safety issue for a majority of drivers with pre-2012 vehicles. "Our testing of a range of ethanol levels at 15% to 20% has identified issues about engine durability,'' API group director and engineer Bob Greco says.
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NickB79
(20,326 posts)Virtually every car made since then is compatible with E15.
jmowreader
(53,155 posts)Its illegal to use E15 in either.
Emile
(42,132 posts)had a marine mechanic tell me to never leave gas in the engine. He said disconnect your fuel line when you put the boat on the trailer, and allow the motor to run out of gas before pulling the boat out of the water. Ever since I been doing this, I never had a fuel problem on my outboards.
C Moon
(13,620 posts)I can't remember what I had to do, but I had to buy something so my 60s car would be able to handle the new gas.
I'm thinking it's probably similar to this.
Emile
(42,132 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 22, 2026, 06:39 AM - Edit history (1)
a lead additive at Autozone for my older 9.5 HP Evinrude kicker motor on my Lund fishing boat.
C Moon
(13,620 posts)NickB79
(20,326 posts)This was an issue resolved back when Obama was president.
But yes, I do see reduced fuel economy when running E15 vs E10. But the cost is cheaper, so it's a wash.
indusurb
(341 posts)You're going to have to look around to find it, if you're lucky you have a seller near you, and it's going to be another fifty cents a gallon. But it beats having to put a new carb kit on every year, or worse having to replace the entire carb. Plus, if you figure in all the environmental damage done growing all that corn for ethanol you'll find that ethanol fuel is worse for our environment than non ethanol fuel.
mucholderthandirt
(1,783 posts)I hate using E10 in my car, lousy fuel economy, but can't afford regular gas. My car is twenty years old this year. I got gas yesterday (Friday) at Walmart, it all still said "up to 10%", so I hope they aren't lying.
Way back in the day, when ethanol was first being added to gas, we had to use it because it was cheaper, and we were broke. It didn't pay off, we got a lot less mileage, but when all you have is five bucks, and you need to get around, you do what you have to do. Then I got a bit more money (after the divorce, better pay, less paying for an a-hole), I never got ethanol/gas. Now it's harder and more expensive than ever. Good thing I don't have to drive much.
hunter
(40,662 posts)It's bad for the environment (all agriculture is bad for the environment) and it doesn't reduce our dependence on fossil fuels. The industry is just a convoluted way of subsidizing farmers who should probably be doing something else.
Please note, I am not any kind of representative of the Democratic Party. I'm speaking here as an environmentalist.
GreatGazoo
(4,595 posts)10% ethanol reduces MPG by 10%.
Ethanol is a subsidy for billionaires who own corn and soy mega farms.