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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSending JD Vance to negotiate a peace agreement is an exercise in futility.
He has no experience whatsoever as an ambassador, a diplomat, even as a mediator or arbitrator. Just like Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff.
Not to say that Iran is sending someone with those skills and credentials.
Vance will likely lay out demands and conclude with "Take it or leave it!"
Plus, Vance has a legal background where you're trained as a litigator with Win-Or-Lose. By contrast, a mediator knows the nuances of an argument where both sides give up something in order to reach a resolution with no winners and no losers. And we all know that Trump is not going to accept being anything less than a winner.
My mother was President of the Board of Education in my town. A number of hardball contracts with the teachers. And she advised me that a successful agreement had both sides going home unhappy.
spanone
(142,237 posts)Raven123
(8,040 posts)The rest of the administration is busy trampling our rights, breaking laws and making polymarket bets
NNadir
(38,846 posts)We could use more of that insight in our party, and indeed in our country.
MarcoZandrini
(227 posts).has the charisma of tapioca.
niyad
(135,288 posts)paleotn
(23,057 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,815 posts)Hope22
(4,958 posts)Vinca
(54,538 posts)ananda
(35,800 posts)Give us your piece of the world, and
everything will be fine..
paleotn
(23,057 posts)Nice oil and gas infrastructure you've got there. Pity if it went up in flames.
jfz9580m
(17,910 posts)Has he quit?
This is the most recent piece I can find is a 100 days old and backing the Maduro capture. And Wikipedia does not mention his leaving the GOP.
Oh nm:
Galileo had a better solution to prisoners dilemma than Julia and Winston. But with so many things ripe to be thrown under every bus, neither is necessary.
Hate it when stuff like TikTok is pushed as somehow mainstream or populist. Idiocracy and dumbing down.
allegorical oracle
(6,687 posts)negotiations. This admin blatantly believes that cooperating with other nations is an annoying nuisance that doesn't demand special skills or experience -- it's certainly not as difficult as developing real estate in NYC or building a new WH ballroom.
paleotn
(23,057 posts)it's clear Donnie doesn't think ANYTHING demands much talent and experience. Only loyalty to him and kind words in his ear every day. The man and his sidekicks are walking, talking evidence that Dunning and Krueger's most widely known theory is pretty solid.
Martin68
(28,296 posts)OC375
(1,204 posts)Blame falls on Vance, for whatever comes next. Win-Win for Trump.
Javaman
(66,026 posts)Furniture store.
Just sayin 😂😂😂
Diamond_Dog
(41,500 posts)when he was installed US Senator in Ohio by Thiel & co. and proceeded to do nothing in the Senate but warm a seat and wait for Dim Don to elevate him to a position he is extremely unqualified for. He is so far in over his head on the world stage plus he has zero charisma.
Kid Berwyn
(25,475 posts)Besides Prince Bonesaw, nobody.
That leaves Couchhumper, negotiator by default.
Prairie Gates
(8,649 posts)"That's kinda like you, Iran. You're kinda like my wife who's not allowed to do stuff."
Really sharp stuff from the Vice President.
paleotn
(23,057 posts)Donnie's instructions are probably to get this thing over with as soon as possible so his approval stops tanking, Nov. doesn't become an even bigger blood bath, and he doesn't share blame for blowing up the entire global economy. But Iran holds most of the cards right now. In short, they're going to get rolled and rolled badly.
It's an extremely tough situation for even the most seasoned diplomats. But these idiots?
Botany
(78,210 posts)
.. negotiate with them. What a great seasoned diplomat we have in J.D. Guyliner. Diplomacy
is done by adults, in private, and with the parties showing RESPECT to the other side or sides.
displacedvermoter
(5,231 posts)for them will be smarter, better versed in maritime and military law, the petroleum trade, and advanced diplomacy, than Vance and his handlers. And, they will likely be fluent in both English and Farsi.
I don't doubt we will be outclassed at the negotiating table.
Raven123
(8,040 posts)Not Trump, mind you. Make of it what you will.