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(25,816 posts)and now it's getting easier.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)He's going to blame his own lack of preparedness and fuckups on the Teahadist Repubs, but this guy has his eyes firmly on 2016.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)devastation Sandy caused. I think the guy has buckets of compassion for his fellow NJ citizens/his constituents. Not everything in this world has to be politically motivated. Having said that, sure, he'll probably run, but that doesn't negate why he's acting like a compassionate human being. I know, seems they're rare in the world of rethugs.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)He has more compassion for the cheeseburgers he has for breakfast.
This man is an extremely convincing political animal. He is dirty as fuck--and I mean, serious, securities lobbyist dirty. His wife is Cantor Fitzgerald scum.
This dude is a motherfuckin' machine....and he is a Wall Street paid lobbyist who leveraged his ass into the DOJ....he is the Governor of New Jersey because Wall Street got tired of Corzine.
This is one dangerous mofo....don't be fooled.
Rockyj
(538 posts)to attend his kids game? Could you imagine if a Obama or a Democrat did that?
He's definitely an opportunist & likes to flaunt his power & bullies people that calls him out on his shit!
Christie could never be trusted!
Walk away
(9,494 posts)It is really discouraging to come here on DU and read about what a compassionate guy Chris Christie is. He has cut billions of dollars from programs for the poor, defunded our schools and given billions more in tax breaks to his very wealthy friends. It is a constant battle between him and our Democratic state legislature to stop him from cutting programs for the elderly and children.
He is a savvy actor and politician. Not a compassionate man. He has destroyed many live and caused illness and death in NJ.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)have friends there who are struggling mightily from the effects of Sandy. I was happy to see someone stood up to the House on their behalf, even if it is someone you loathe. I have read some repulsive things about Christie; doesn't mean he didn't do the right thing in this instance.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Christie is an opportunist. He cares about votes. What else could he do and still run for Governor next year. I have friends and family who have suffered losses but at least they are smart enough not to trust Chris Christie and his republican brothers.
How would you like it if I came on DU and talked about what a great guy Mitt Romney was before the election? This DU Christy worship is terrible and of no service to the people of NJ who will suffer through 4 more years of Greedy Republican rule.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)This man is running for office in my state in eight months and you are telling me to buzz off because you want to say nice things about him and not get called on it. Put me on ignore if you don't like what I have to say. I am about to do the same for you. Any Democrat who gets rolled by the likes of Christy is of no real interest to me anyway.
NashvilleLefty
(811 posts)In public, Christie seems more Dem than Repub. In fact, considering the way he's been treated I've been wondering if he won't at least change to Independent at sometime in the future.
But if we look behind the curtain and see a charlatan, then that charlatan needs to be exposed. Which is what it looks like you are trying to do.
Right now, Christie is looking like the "anti-Republican" who actually cares about his people. If that is incorrect, then we need to rip the curtain away and expose him as the opportunist you claim he is.
If he is a "user", then perhaps he can be "used" to help us rip the curtain from other candidates and help us rip the Republican Party apart.
So that the People can finally rule themselves rather than have the Corporate Masters rule over the rest of us - True "Free Market" and Capitalistic values which are not possible without a referee (in this case, Government).
JI7
(89,249 posts)with giving him credit for calling out his party on this issue of aid for Sandy Victims. people need the help.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)The clips are out there, many of them. He is not a nice person.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Where the fuck are you getting "FORMIDABLE REPUBLICAN OPPOSITION" graphics from anyway? I'm sure there are plenty of anti-union right-wing discussion boards that would love to kiss Christie's ass along with you.
bluesbassman
(19,373 posts)You might want to check it out for the frame of reference.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)bluesbassman
(19,373 posts)and it's legit. Does not support repugs at all.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)As far as I'm concerned, if it's in support of one Republican, it's in support of Republicans in general.
As others pointed out in the thread, it's not as if there aren't many voices saying the same thing. There is no reason to pump-up a Republican who will jump on whatever is the popular bandwagon. If anything, it just makes me all the more suspicious of him.
bluesbassman
(19,373 posts)I'm no fan of Christie. His track record up until Sandy was abysmal, and I don't blame you a bit for not wanting to hear anything from him. He's a political animal and it shows in these quotes. However, the mere fact that ANY repug is uttering these words is extremely newsworthy as it shows the level of in-fighting and dysfunction going on in the party. That Christie happens to be the one saying them at this time is a matter of political expediency for him, but it's also a boon to us on the left as it underscores the mess that is the current repug party.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Christie, and every other Republican, will be for whatever whack-job the party runs for any seat unless they start talking about "legitimate rape." These kind of statements will be forgotten by the media, and if brought up, discussed as a polite disagreement. Christie had no problem doing the exact opposite right after Sandy. Before he needed Obama's help, the president was going to destroy the country. It's all just politics. I don't believe for a second that he's a man of principle.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)that does not mean he isn't saying this stuff with an eye toward 2016. He's not stupid and he knows everything he says and does between now and then will be what people remember most if and when he runs. So I'm sure he is pissed, but he's using it to try to pull the wool over people's eyes and distract people from all the shit he's done.
JI7
(89,249 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)He is not only deep in the pocket of the Chamber of Commerce and their friends, he is stupid and his stupidity has cost New Jersey billions. The only things Christie has going for him is that he is politically savvy and a big bully.
JI7
(89,249 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)Except the families who make over $6,000 a year who are now without Medicaid and food stamps.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Just because he's easy to like right now doesn't mean he's any less of a bully or a RWer. He's doing his job with this, but ask him about issues and he's RW all the way.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Of course, he was an opportunist, as mentioned above, and a repub, and spouted the right wing bs. He's got a different tune since Sandy. Probably just posturing, but any time someone like him trash talks the repubs it's good. The right is in chaos.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)I agree that it's probably to benefit him later down the road.
To be honest, I did like him coming down on them the way he did.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)remember that- they're grooming him for 2016 and they arent stupid
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I don't want to like him but right now am finding it hard not to.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)after all this time he is finally looking after his people on this one issue, this is not a commendable act, it should underline and lay bare how much he doesn't care about people until it becomes politically impossible to not do so. If he hadn't have said these things, being intentionally contentious, then he would still be a villain in the public eye.
I believe the majority of NJ voters did not vote for him, he managed to slip in on a split ticket, and we must never abandon any state because "It's what they deserve for electing (insert asshole here)" We should be saying to them instead "Hey, you guys were lied to, and are being lied to, we want to help our fellow Americans."
I always remember that the red star on the California state flag is there for Texas. As much as I don't like that state much, they are still our companion in this union, and we need to stand beside our brothers and sisters there who are being abused. We can take back the south, if we believe the south is worth taking (and it is).
kinda went afield from where I started, but you get the gist.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)His explanation was that he was trying to save the pension system. Tells the legislature to vote to fuck over the unions and he will fully fund the pension program.
They do.
Then he proposes consecutive budgets that do not fund the system.
His refusal to raise taxes on anything, for anything speaks volumes about his political ambition.
Do I believe he cares about the Sandy victims? Yes.
But he's still a piece of shit.
blm
(113,061 posts)and, if Sandy had hit the west coast, instead, would be siding WITH their intransigence today.
Christie is OK with GOP's soullessness until it's HIS state that needs the compassion and the help. I'm sure his outrage right now is real because it's personal......THIS time. Real leaders know disasters happen in every state - no Democratic lawmaker would THINK to stop a disaster relief bill for ANY state - red or blue.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)Rebuilding after Sandy will be a bipartisan issue he will campaign on. He will run as
the un-Republican on the repub. ticket. All the videos of Obama and Christie, liberal
talking heads cooing over Christie will be run over and over. Keep a sharp eye on where
recovery funds he eventually gets go to. Christie would be on Wall Streets dream ticket.
How soon people forget.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)He's still out to destroy unions and education in general. He still refuses to tax the rich at the expense of the poor. He still refuses to implement the ACA. And that tunnel project hasn't come back online.
Congratulations Christie, you're still an asshole even though the others in your party are even bigger assholes.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)take your time, even though people are suffering and need help .. we understand how the House works deals .. take your time, yeah" He's a politician first and foremost .. a Republican second.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I just don't want people here and in general to start thinking he's ok because of this and his cooperation with the President as Sandy was happening.
He's a crumb.
Pisces
(5,599 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Think he'll give you a big ol' bear hug, or do you think he'll send flowers and chocolate?
Oh, sorry!! He won't give you shit.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)I like that he is speaking out now but he will always be a loud mouthed Republican in my eyes.