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mr715

(4,059 posts)
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:28 PM Yesterday

We're not going to lose.

There is no way we aren't going to have the majority in the House of Representatives in 2027. We will likely have a very significant majority.

We might even win the Senate, which was unthinkable a year or so ago. Senate seats are not subject to gerrymandering, and that we are very close to winning suggests the overwhelming anti-establishment sentiment that will drive a blue wave in 2026.

The VA outcome sucks, but don't drive off the cliff yet. We're still going to win.

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We're not going to lose. (Original Post) mr715 Yesterday OP
I appreciate your optimism senseandsensibility Yesterday #1
Hope is a communal virtue mr715 Yesterday #2
Go read this: Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #4
TBH, it doesn't... regnaD kciN 20 hrs ago #30
Your math is off Fiendish Thingy 19 hrs ago #33
No one can predict the outcome. Voters let us down in 2000, 2016 and 2024, which lostincalifornia 23 hrs ago #5
And Independents voting Democratic mr715 23 hrs ago #8
Agreed. Nothing is certain, that is the lesson from 2000, 2016, and 2024 lostincalifornia 20 hrs ago #32
We should be following the example blue-wave 23 hrs ago #9
Break their kneecaps at the polls. mr715 16 hrs ago #38
Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami! Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #3
Dump hasn't just shot himself in the foot -- he's blown a whole leg off Blue Owl 23 hrs ago #6
Agree 100% with your assessment of the outcome of the midterms. beaglelover 23 hrs ago #7
I agree. I think people are confusing the redistricting war with the election. The press have been saying the Fil1957 23 hrs ago #10
I posted this earlier and didn't much of a response. Mme. Defarge 22 hrs ago #11
All the animals in the barn yard are equal. multigraincracker 22 hrs ago #12
That movie is supposedly hideously bad... regnaD kciN 20 hrs ago #29
Changed the story pretty much. multigraincracker 18 hrs ago #35
Thank you! My anxiety is in overdrivw crimycarny 22 hrs ago #13
Glad I could help in my own small way mr715 22 hrs ago #16
I also assume that the map redraws in Florida and Tennessee will be challenged in court? crimycarny 22 hrs ago #14
I'm in FL mr715 22 hrs ago #15
Mark Elias is already on it. If you can afford to support Democracy Docket it will help. HeartsCanHope 21 hrs ago #28
Will do crimycarny 18 hrs ago #34
It's very likely but better not to speak so certainly. The most important thing is we CAN'T let the GOP stay in power, LymphocyteLover 22 hrs ago #17
Yeah, but we took a gut punch this morning. mr715 22 hrs ago #19
We still need the independent voters in every state - Democrats can't do this alone FakeNoose 22 hrs ago #18
It'll be a good night gerrymander or no. mr715 21 hrs ago #20
I fully expect Quanto Magnus 21 hrs ago #21
There will be elections and they will try stuff, but they'll lose. mr715 21 hrs ago #22
I, too, am hopeful. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #23
What we're going to lose is several Black congresspeople yliza 21 hrs ago #24
Don't underestimate edhopper 21 hrs ago #25
And Hillary is going to sweep all 50 states sarisataka 21 hrs ago #26
I thought ww would win 235 to 238 seats Pototan 21 hrs ago #27
Believe I've heard this before. Yup, I have. republianmushroom 20 hrs ago #31
$5.00 gas and boots on the ground in the multigraincracker 18 hrs ago #36
Add a little Hantavirus to the mix. mr715 18 hrs ago #37

senseandsensibility

(25,436 posts)
1. I appreciate your optimism
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:35 PM
Yesterday

Feeling a little down about VA I have to admit, mainly because it's just so unfair. Not quite up to making the best of it yet; still in the anger stage. But whenever I get like this, I am careful not to start doom and gloom threads. Soon I'll be right there with ya, posting positively I hope.

mr715

(4,059 posts)
2. Hope is a communal virtue
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:38 PM
Yesterday

Those that have, give.

Those that need, get.

We are all greater for sharing it.


Edit: The "get" is not imperative -- I am not telling you to "get hopeful", I am suggesting that you are deserving of receiving a hopeful message and can take it however you please.

regnaD kciN

(27,692 posts)
30. TBH, it doesn't...
Fri May 8, 2026, 06:49 PM
20 hrs ago

It seems to be saying that Dems still have a shot to pick up two or three seats in VA. Which is better than the status quo, but we need overall bigger gains than that to make up for the number of seats we’re going to lose to MAGA gerrymandering-on-steroids in the southern and central states. They heavily skewed the count, and we need to be able to skew ours just as much just to stay even.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,908 posts)
33. Your math is off
Fri May 8, 2026, 08:01 PM
19 hrs ago

Republican seats added by Gerrymander:
TX +5
FL +4
TN +1
AL +1 (maybe)
LA +1
MO +1
NC +1
OH +1
——————
Total= 14-15 seats

Dem seats added by redistricting:

CA +5
UT +1 (yes you read that right)
—————-
Total= 6 seats

Now subtract the Dem gains from Republican gains:

14-15 - 6 = 8-9 net seat gain for Republicans.

Right now, Republicans have a five seat margin in the house, however, five seats are vacant. If all those seats were filled, as they were on January 3, 2025, the margin would be 3 seats.

So, 3 seat margin, + 8-9 seat gain via gerrymandering = 11-12 seat hypothetical margin.

Except, Dems are projected to pickup a minimum of 20-30 seats.

That gives Dems, at the very, very, bare minimum an 8 seat majority.

Now, some folks are projecting Dems could pick up as many as 40-50 seats. In 2018, when Trump’s approval ratings were higher than they are now, and inflation and the economy were doing much better, Dems picked up 40 seats.

And there’s (at least) one more factor to consider:

All that republican gerrymandering required some solid red districts to be weakened, and some of the new red districts aren’t that strong.

Remember this: throughout the past year, 2024 Trump +20 districts were swinging 15-30 points towards the Dems in actual elections, not just opinion polls.

So, if they took a Trump +20 district and turned it into a Trump +5 district in order to create another Trump +5 district out of a formerly Harris +5 district…can you do the math?

I’m not feeling cocky, I’m not over confident, but based on the data, including the fact that the Trump-induced, Republican-enabled suffering spreading across all regional, racial and partisan boundaries that is only going to increase in the next six months, I draw this conclusion:

Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami in November

lostincalifornia

(5,499 posts)
5. No one can predict the outcome. Voters let us down in 2000, 2016 and 2024, which
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:48 PM
23 hrs ago

gave us the SC we have today, and the destruction of the voting rights act.

Those are not things that can be lightly brushed aside.

It all depends if Democrats get out and vote.

blue-wave

(5,484 posts)
9. We should be following the example
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:19 PM
23 hrs ago

of how Hungary got rid of Orban. They organized in every corner of the country and got their vote out to vote in record numbers. We have been winning off year elections in republican districts by huge margins. Even if the republicans draw district lines favoring themselves, we can win. We just have to have the fight in our bellies and the smarts to organize properly.

That means everyone stepping up to the plate, from top Democratic leadership to me and you and our neighbors organizing other neighbors to get to the polls.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,908 posts)
3. Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami!
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:45 PM
23 hrs ago

And VA isn’t as bad as some are portraying it.

Mathematically, it’s likely VA Dems will still flip at least 2, and up to 4 seats in the midterms.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2026/5/8/800035672/community/a-brief-explanation-on-the-va-supreme-court-ruling/

Blue Owl

(59,541 posts)
6. Dump hasn't just shot himself in the foot -- he's blown a whole leg off
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:05 PM
23 hrs ago

and continuing to blow the rest of his extremities off one by one, taking the GOP along with him

Fil1957

(831 posts)
10. I agree. I think people are confusing the redistricting war with the election. The press have been saying the
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:21 PM
23 hrs ago

Last edited Fri May 8, 2026, 06:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Republicans have "won" or have the "edge" in the gerrymander wars. That is all true, but it gives the impression that the Republicans now have the edge in the '26 election, which they don't.

Polymarket which has been a good predictor of election outcomes, now give the Democrats a 77% chance of winning the house, down from 88% a month ago, but still very good for Dems.

As things stand now, this will cost the Democrats seats, but in no way does this change the final outcome. And it's important to remember that no matter in what form the final maps are, they will have zero effect on the federal Senate races.

And let's not forget, unless there are major policy changes, inflation will continue to increase, the price of gas will be higher, and Trump and his Republican cohorts will be even MORE UNPOPULAR in November than they are now.

multigraincracker

(37,975 posts)
12. All the animals in the barn yard are equal.
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:10 PM
22 hrs ago

Pigs are not more equal, but they are greedier.
I recommend the new movie just out, Animal Farm. You will recognize Napoleon.

regnaD kciN

(27,692 posts)
29. That movie is supposedly hideously bad...
Fri May 8, 2026, 06:42 PM
20 hrs ago

…and completely changes everything about the novel.

multigraincracker

(37,975 posts)
35. Changed the story pretty much.
Fri May 8, 2026, 09:25 PM
18 hrs ago

I wonder if the director altered it to make a statement about our current day.
Wife and I enjoyed it. I rarely go to the movies and I avoid drama so don’t watch many on tv either unless it’s comedy. This is pretty much that. You might not like it.

crimycarny

(2,101 posts)
13. Thank you! My anxiety is in overdrivw
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:23 PM
22 hrs ago

Needed this to get me off my catastrophic thinking train...

mr715

(4,059 posts)
16. Glad I could help in my own small way
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:34 PM
22 hrs ago

At the end of the day, on election night, we are going to be hearing the people that talk a lot say how this is a blow to Trump! A repudiation! The American people have spoken back! Etc.

There is no universe where we are not winning the House. With that comes a seat at the table.

There are very real but challenging paths to winning the Senate. With that comes real power.

crimycarny

(2,101 posts)
14. I also assume that the map redraws in Florida and Tennessee will be challenged in court?
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:25 PM
22 hrs ago

I haven't read anything about legal challenges to the new maps in Florida and Tennessee, but I'm assuming there will be legal challenges??

mr715

(4,059 posts)
15. I'm in FL
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:29 PM
22 hrs ago

Some of the seats have been made weaker for the GOP. It was a very dumb move. It'll end up being a wash in a Dem +5% year, and will end up costing them seats in a Dem +10% year, and we've been overperforming by what? 14% basically?

HeartsCanHope

(1,744 posts)
28. Mark Elias is already on it. If you can afford to support Democracy Docket it will help.
Fri May 8, 2026, 06:33 PM
21 hrs ago
https://www.democracydocket.com/
You can sign up for free to his substack and he really keeps you informed as to what is going on with the

legal challenges to the gerrymandering.

LymphocyteLover

(10,071 posts)
17. It's very likely but better not to speak so certainly. The most important thing is we CAN'T let the GOP stay in power,
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:35 PM
22 hrs ago

or our democracy will truly be over.

mr715

(4,059 posts)
19. Yeah, but we took a gut punch this morning.
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:38 PM
22 hrs ago

We can emphasize the good odds to help us get off the floor.

FakeNoose

(42,229 posts)
18. We still need the independent voters in every state - Democrats can't do this alone
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:38 PM
22 hrs ago

We all need to do everything to convince the indies and once-in-a-while voters that they CAN'T sit this one out!

That means asking everyone we know, in our neighborhoods, at our churches, at the grocery stores, at our kids' schools, EVERYONE we come across in the next 6 months. Their votes are NEEDED and this is SO important.

Quanto Magnus

(1,368 posts)
21. I fully expect
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:45 PM
21 hrs ago

more shenanigans to stop that from happen up to suspension of elections. I get the regime technically doesn't have that power, but when has that stopped them yet?.... And with the colluding 6 on SCOTUS, I could see them try to make a ruling that 'allows' Trump to halt elections.

yliza

(209 posts)
24. What we're going to lose is several Black congresspeople
Fri May 8, 2026, 06:03 PM
21 hrs ago

All of those states that used to need pre-clearance have gleefully begun redistricting to eliminate those seats. They already gerrymandered Jasmine Crockett out of her seat. This will have a lasting effect,

sarisataka

(22,781 posts)
26. And Hillary is going to sweep all 50 states
Fri May 8, 2026, 06:17 PM
21 hrs ago

We need to learn, we don't win by predicting; we win by working.
GOTV

Pototan

(3,202 posts)
27. I thought ww would win 235 to 238 seats
Fri May 8, 2026, 06:18 PM
21 hrs ago

Now, it may be 231 to 235.

In any case, we will have a comfortable majority.

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