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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:17 AM Jan 2013

A few things to remember about Chris Christie

...from the peerless Charlie Pierce:

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Nevertheless, the storm has been a godsend to Christie. Unlike public school teachers and veterans, the storm was an enemy that actually was worth bullying. He got great credit for "working with" the president, as if he had any choice. What was his alternative? Leave a couple of million constituents foundering in the surf? He got a ridiculous amount of credit for summoning up the grace to thank the president for helping his state climb out from under the wreckage. (And, yes, it is a measure of how far dow the rabbit hole the national Republican party has fallen that, a) Christie gets credit for doing something that has been obvious to every politician since Pericles, and b) that he took heat within his own party for it.) Now, though, with everyone in the Beltway pretending that a new era of bipartisanship has descended upon the place, and that a new governing coalition has sprung up literally overnight, you can almost see the next part coming.

There always is a serious faction of Democrats who have a sweet tooth for tough-daddy Republicans -- and, yes, I'm looking at you, Matthews, and you, O'Donnell, and you, too, Rendell -- and Christie now fits that bill admirably. You don't have to be clairvoyant to predict that people are going to confront what appears to be yet another field full of extremists contending for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination, and then you will have Chris Christie, who "took on his own party" over storm relief, and who "worked with a Democratic president" in the aftermath of a horrendous natural calamity. Plus, he is "honest." He "says what's on his mind." And he likes Springsteen! I can write Mike Allen's piece in Politico for him right now.

The fact is that he's still the same guy he always was. Somebody who would pull the wings off flies if he thought it meant 15 minutes on CNN. Someone who almost never picks on anyone his own size. Someone who kicks down, always. Someone who was OK with federal storm relief, but ostentatiously refused federal money for another tunnel connecting New Jersey and New York. He's still the same megalomaniac who stunned the party in Tampa by giving a keynote address at the Republican National Convention in which he barely mentioned the nominee. He's the guy who put the bully in the bully pulpit. And he has not changed, any more than Washington has. Be advised. The aurora's rising behind him.

The rest: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Chris_Christie_Is_The_Same_Chris_Christie

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A few things to remember about Chris Christie (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jan 2013 OP
Like Lipstick ... GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #1
Anyone else notice that Donald Trump keeps a wide margin (no pun intended) from Christie? no_hypocrisy Jan 2013 #2
Love the reference from Springsteen's iconic, 4th of July Asbury Park (Sandy)... WCGreen Jan 2013 #3
Yes! tilsammans Jan 2013 #10
It's not really his fault - when on field trip in HS he was bitten by a radioactive bully. el_bryanto Jan 2013 #4
The Republicans of the 21st century are often so lockstep in sync NewJeffCT Jan 2013 #5
Not saying much but he at least did it three times...better than none. Auntie Bush Jan 2013 #27
That was BRILLIANT. So very prescient, thanks. nt rivegauche Jan 2013 #6
Chris Christie is a big bully. Still is even if he tried to make up with President Obama. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #7
Chris Christie is a big bully. Still is even if he tried to make up with President Obama. Flashmann Jan 2013 #28
Pierce is being unfair here. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #8
Hey, stop that. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #9
We're going to heck for laughing here... uponit7771 Jan 2013 #34
My sole consolation is that the Republicans won't nominate him Bucky Jan 2013 #11
No denial here; Christie's a jerk, but I gotta love it when he turns on repubs! n/t mountain grammy Jan 2013 #12
The frenemy of your enemy is not always your friend. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #13
Christie is a sideshow in the 2016 GOP presidential carnival. hay rick Jan 2013 #14
thanks i needed that barbtries Jan 2013 #15
I don't think we have forgotten he is Republican. But we can all appreciate a rational opponent who Pisces Jan 2013 #16
I would rather have more "fringe" to highlight the differences. xtraxritical Jan 2013 #29
Seems to me like there is plenty of fringe and very little rational. Pisces Jan 2013 #36
yeah, but I'll bet you watched that presser all the way through bigtree Jan 2013 #17
Don't be fooled by Christie. DLevine Jan 2013 #18
Lots of obsessing over Christie going on here today, Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #19
One thread = I'm obsessing? WilliamPitt Jan 2013 #23
I didn't mean by you, specifically (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #24
Rofl Cha Jan 2013 #41
they didnt want romney either but he was still on the ticket - leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #33
He is fooling a fair amount of people, many people who you wouldnt think would be fooled. stevenleser Jan 2013 #20
Exactly. I'm enjoying Christie dumping on his fellow turds. Doesn't mean he's still not one. MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #21
"Someone who almost never picks on anyone his own size"... berni_mccoy Jan 2013 #22
BREAKING: Heartless Republican is SHOCKED that Republicans are Heartless! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #25
"Good Republicans" are like "Good Racists" Taverner Jan 2013 #26
and he calls teachers "thugs" LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #30
That's the trend: to ride the Obama-wave to the Right into 2016 & they're lining up already. NOW is patrice Jan 2013 #31
Here's a guy who can dish it out but can't take it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2013 #32
Color me unimpressed with him as well. DinahMoeHum Jan 2013 #35
If Huntsman runs for POTUS again, he will have my full support... Exultant Democracy Jan 2013 #37
And he had a lot of praise for... butterfly77 Jan 2013 #38
Good Piece by Charlie Pierce putting Christy into Perspective.. Cha Jan 2013 #39
yes, yes, and hmmmmm....yes. spanone Jan 2013 #40
I haven't forgotten who he is, but it's precisely what he is that makes the Democrats' point pacalo Jan 2013 #42

no_hypocrisy

(46,267 posts)
2. Anyone else notice that Donald Trump keeps a wide margin (no pun intended) from Christie?
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:30 AM
Jan 2013

He's not about to get bitch-slapped by someone who will call him out on stupid insults.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
3. Love the reference from Springsteen's iconic, 4th of July Asbury Park (Sandy)...
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:42 AM
Jan 2013

"Sandy the aurora is rising behind us ...."

Very Cool.


el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. It's not really his fault - when on field trip in HS he was bitten by a radioactive bully.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jan 2013

Kind of sad when you think about it.

Bryant

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
5. The Republicans of the 21st century are often so lockstep in sync
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:50 AM
Jan 2013

with each other that when one prominent Republican disagrees with the daily talking points, it becomes newsworthy in a "man bites dog" sort of way. Christie has now done it twice over the last three months now, and did it once before a year or two back when he called out the GOP for being in an uproar over Christie appointing a Muslim judge.

So, three times in three years he's gone against the party line.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
27. Not saying much but he at least did it three times...better than none.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 01:28 PM
Jan 2013

I think he's a conniver with an ego as big as his body. Everything he does is an act and an attempt to get Dems to vote for him in the future...he's so transparent!

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
28. Chris Christie is a big bully. Still is even if he tried to make up with President Obama.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jan 2013

Interesting...I said the exact same thing,yesterday,albeit in a vulgar and loutish manner....Got flamed and had a post hidden for my effort......But I still stand by what you say,as well as what I said.......

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
8. Pierce is being unfair here.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:12 PM
Jan 2013

"Someone who almost never picks on anyone his own size."

He can't FIND anyone his own size to pick on.

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
11. My sole consolation is that the Republicans won't nominate him
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jan 2013

at least not without tearing themselves apart.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,226 posts)
13. The frenemy of your enemy is not always your friend.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:34 PM
Jan 2013

Actually, he's not likely to be your friend at all.

Chris Christie is all about Chris Christie. While that's refreshing in the face of the Republican Party, he'll turn around and do the same to us.

hay rick

(7,652 posts)
14. Christie is a sideshow in the 2016 GOP presidential carnival.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:37 PM
Jan 2013

It's ironic that he's getting credit for not being an idiot in his handling of superstorm Sandy. Two years ago he took a lot of heat for going to Disney World during a huge snowstorm. Story here: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/gop-strategist-whiny-chris-christies-snowpocalypse-absence-inexcusable/

Some old dirt on Christie here: http://www.bluejersey.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=17194

My favorite Christie story remains (from the article) this one:

And when Chris Christie went the wrong way down a one way street, causing an accident, sending the biker he hit to a trauma center - then didn't get a ticket when he identified himself as US Attorney - he did nothing wrong.


barbtries

(28,817 posts)
15. thanks i needed that
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:53 PM
Jan 2013

not that i would ever vote for a republican, but i did watch his entire press conference yesterday. with the rest of them i can't stand to listen for more than a few seconds.

Pisces

(5,602 posts)
16. I don't think we have forgotten he is Republican. But we can all appreciate a rational opponent who
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jan 2013

is speaking the truth about his own sides inadequacies. Not for 1 minute do I forget his core principles are against mine,
but I would rather have someone willing to compromise, willing to speak truth in a disaster time.

This guy could get some gun control issues put on the table. He may be an ego maniac, but right now he is helping the
dems in a big way. He is saying what needs to be said and some Repubs are listening.

bigtree

(86,013 posts)
17. yeah, but I'll bet you watched that presser all the way through
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jan 2013

. . . thing of beauty, it was, even if he is a republican asshole.

DLevine

(1,788 posts)
18. Don't be fooled by Christie.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jan 2013

He is a bully. He does not care about the poor or disadvantaged. He does not care about his constituents. He only cares about himself. He is a piece of shit.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
19. Lots of obsessing over Christie going on here today,
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 01:08 PM
Jan 2013

but I don't think he's worth worrying about. He has no chance in hell of winning over the batshit insane GOP primary voters.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
20. He is fooling a fair amount of people, many people who you wouldnt think would be fooled.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 01:11 PM
Jan 2013

I'm all for real conversions, if they are in fact real.

Right now with Christie we have a single instance of not even Democratic behavior, simply pragmatic behavior. I personally think it is all about 2016.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
22. "Someone who almost never picks on anyone his own size"...
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 01:15 PM
Jan 2013

To be fair to him, there aren't many people his own size...

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
30. and he calls teachers "thugs"
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 01:48 PM
Jan 2013

One of my good friends is a teacher in NJ. The teachers of NJ will never forget that.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
31. That's the trend: to ride the Obama-wave to the Right into 2016 & they're lining up already. NOW is
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jan 2013

the time for a presidential candidate from the authentic Left who knows what s/he is doing.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,946 posts)
32. Here's a guy who can dish it out but can't take it.
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:09 PM
Jan 2013

Christie is shocked - shocked - that other GOPers would behave dickishly.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
37. If Huntsman runs for POTUS again, he will have my full support...
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jan 2013

during the republican primary that is. We need a little more sanity from our red counterparts and Huntsman fits the bill.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
42. I haven't forgotten who he is, but it's precisely what he is that makes the Democrats' point
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 08:22 PM
Jan 2013

much better than any Democrat could. We're doing ourselves a disservice to dismiss his turnaround remarks due to his past actions.

It is ingratiating to witness a brash, tough-daddy Republican coming to Jesus when his state is in desperate need of help from the federal government when the Republicans hold the purse strings. They want to "drown the federal government in a bathtub" so that the states will have more authority.

Then seeing the same Republican holding up a magnifying glass to his party's soullessness at a news conference is even more ingratiating, given that he himself has cruelly politicized his own state's educational interests for the benefit of that same party's wacky ideology.

What his thinking becomes after his state gets what it needs & is back to normal is anyone's guess. The fact is, NJ's reconstruction is going to take many years & Christie is currently running for re-election in a blue state, which is set for November 2013.


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