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BootinUp

(51,588 posts)
Sat May 9, 2026, 10:29 AM 8 hrs ago

Lawyers for Sec Def Hegseth argued that military retirees were subject to freedom of speech restrictions

Max Boot substack note

Former Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall:

This week, I heard something that shocked me. In a federal appeals court, lawyers for Pete Hegseth, the secretary of defense, argued that military retirees were subject to freedom of speech restrictions because of their connection to the military, and that if they didn’t like those restrictions, retirees could forfeit their pension and benefits. Let that sink in. The Trump administration expects the people who have put their lives on the line for America to cede one of their basic rights, or forfeit the retirement pay and benefits they have earned over decades of service. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/08/opinion/hegseth-kelly-military-free-speech.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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Lawyers for Sec Def Hegseth argued that military retirees were subject to freedom of speech restrictions (Original Post) BootinUp 8 hrs ago OP
More proof he thinks our troops are HIS little toy soldiers The Blue Flower 8 hrs ago #1
And yet they love him, it's so f-ed up. dem4decades 8 hrs ago #3
I am not so sure the troops love him liberalgunwilltravel 6 hrs ago #7
Yeah, When I was in the military we were restricted to what we could say, especially to the press. Jacson6 8 hrs ago #2
Active military does cede some rights while serving Soul_of_Wit 6 hrs ago #8
Lower than snakes. Kid Berwyn 8 hrs ago #4
I am not a genius but I do know that it is not a good idea to piss off an old soldier. twodogsbarking 6 hrs ago #5
Or an old Marine. MarineCombatEngineer 5 hrs ago #14
Reminiscent of the swiftboating of John Kerry Soul_of_Wit 6 hrs ago #6
Yeah, they were wearing these stupid Band-Aids. Despicable idiots. Dave Bowman 5 hrs ago #9
Well, ts gotta find some excuse to put more of those federal dollars in his pocket, you know. mwmisses4289 5 hrs ago #10
The only faint brush with military service that the current SCOTUS has is... Ol Janx Spirit 5 hrs ago #11
Hegseth can't handle the law DemocracyForever 5 hrs ago #12
Hegseth is a 'passed-over' Major pfitz59 5 hrs ago #13
Lawyers for Sec.Hegseth are just as full of shit oasis 5 hrs ago #15

The Blue Flower

(6,575 posts)
1. More proof he thinks our troops are HIS little toy soldiers
Sat May 9, 2026, 10:36 AM
8 hrs ago

Of course they don't respect him--he has no respect for them.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,240 posts)
7. I am not so sure the troops love him
Sat May 9, 2026, 12:53 PM
6 hrs ago

In fact, I think a majority dislike him and his bluster. This is especially true of senior non-commissioned officers and most of the brass. Whiskey Pete is digging his own grave. He just hasn't realized it yet.

Jacson6

(2,156 posts)
2. Yeah, When I was in the military we were restricted to what we could say, especially to the press.
Sat May 9, 2026, 10:40 AM
8 hrs ago

I don't think SCOTUS will buy into the idea that just because you are getting military retirement and/or VA disability the government can shut you up by taking it away. But there is no way to predict what the Fascist 6 judges will rule.

Soul_of_Wit

(133 posts)
8. Active military does cede some rights while serving
Sat May 9, 2026, 12:57 PM
6 hrs ago

All of that goes poof the second you become former military.

twodogsbarking

(19,251 posts)
5. I am not a genius but I do know that it is not a good idea to piss off an old soldier.
Sat May 9, 2026, 12:20 PM
6 hrs ago

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Soul_of_Wit

(133 posts)
6. Reminiscent of the swiftboating of John Kerry
Sat May 9, 2026, 12:53 PM
6 hrs ago

This is the same Republican Party which failed to realize that serving your country honorably is the best justification possible for questioning your country's foreign policy.

mwmisses4289

(4,615 posts)
10. Well, ts gotta find some excuse to put more of those federal dollars in his pocket, you know.
Sat May 9, 2026, 01:17 PM
5 hrs ago

I mean come on, the poor man and his family are on the edge, and they could really use the money.

(Do I really need to add )

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,069 posts)
11. The only faint brush with military service that the current SCOTUS has is...
Sat May 9, 2026, 01:20 PM
5 hrs ago

...when Justice Alito served in the U.S. Army Reserve: He joined the Army ROTC at Princeton and served on active duty for three months in 1975 for training. He was honorably discharged as a captain in 1980.

Don't count on the current SCOTUS to find any love for military retirees that outweighs their love for destroying whatever MAGA wants destroyed in the name of making America a white supremacist state again.

We've seen this movie a few times now: Lower courts side with the Constitution; the SCOTUS sides with MAGA desires.

DemocracyForever

(155 posts)
12. Hegseth can't handle the law
Sat May 9, 2026, 01:22 PM
5 hrs ago

It's the law that people in the military can refuse to follow illegal orders. There's even video of Hegseth making this same point in 2016. This attack on Senator Kelly for stating the law is further proof of how unqualified and incompetent Hegseth is.

pfitz59

(12,884 posts)
13. Hegseth is a 'passed-over' Major
Sat May 9, 2026, 01:33 PM
5 hrs ago

Denied advancement due to extremist views. Unfit to seeve in any capacity.

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