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Swede

(40,193 posts)
Mon May 11, 2026, 04:57 PM May 11

The U.S. is effectively checkmated in Iran--& this defeat will carry lasting consequences unlike any America has endured

The U.S. is effectively checkmated in Iran—and this defeat will carry lasting consequences unlike any America has endured before, Robert Kagan argues.

The Atlantic (@theatlantic.com) 2026-05-11T01:15:03Z
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The U.S. is effectively checkmated in Iran--& this defeat will carry lasting consequences unlike any America has endured (Original Post) Swede May 11 OP
How the hell can any of us root against our own country?... The dilemma is knowing full well that, hlthe2b May 11 #1
As long as trump and his family made billions.. BlueWaveNeverEnd May 11 #2
Current administration with the cowardly..... Lovie777 May 11 #3
It was never winnable, the objectives always led to stalemate and economic ruin globally bucolic_frolic May 11 #4
IMHO he and Kegsbreath got high off their own supply after Venezuela Mad_Machine76 May 11 #5
This is tfg's own Vietnam UpInArms May 11 #6

hlthe2b

(114,806 posts)
1. How the hell can any of us root against our own country?... The dilemma is knowing full well that,
Mon May 11, 2026, 05:02 PM
May 11

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because of Trump, his overwhelming ignorance, arrogance, and malignant narcissism, the world believes (along with Iran) that we, the USA, DESERVE IT.

I admit understanding that condemnation- even though the majority of Americans are equally appalled.

bucolic_frolic

(55,973 posts)
4. It was never winnable, the objectives always led to stalemate and economic ruin globally
Mon May 11, 2026, 05:34 PM
May 11

because of dependence on their oil and manufacturing. I doubt the reasons for this war were strategic or economic. Now we're a target.

Mad_Machine76

(25,031 posts)
5. IMHO he and Kegsbreath got high off their own supply after Venezuela
Mon May 11, 2026, 05:39 PM
May 11

He thought he could probably use the same model in Iran. It sounds like he's planning something similar for Cuba as well.

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