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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't care about Platner's sexting issue, but I do care about his Nazi Tattoo.
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It wasn't a "Youthful Indiscretion." You can't tell me he didn't know what it stood for. If a Republican candidate had one DU would be hammering them continuously.
May I remind everyone that 12 million innocent civilians were murdered by the Nazi regime. That still matters to me!
TBF
(37,395 posts)thanks for speaking up!
Ocelot II
(131,475 posts)Celerity
(55,075 posts)a progressive and a unconventional candidate who helped upend the establishment choice, (and the centrist candidate) Mills, to the point where she ended her campaign. For that Platner earned a lot of ire from certain quarters.
I think Mills and Platner were and are both flawed (Mills more than Platner IMHO, she took multiple poor actions as governor, made multiple choices that are unpopular within our Party), but, barring some freakish outcome, Platner will be our standard bearer against the ratfucker Collins. I hope he comes down on that lying, snide POS Concern Collins like a tonne of bricks and wins the seat.
Ocelot II
(131,475 posts)many years ago that apparently relates to a symbol used by Nazis makes you a Nazi if you've never espoused any Nazi principles. I don't live in Maine so the decision isn't mine to make, but I don't want a Nazi in the Senate and I wanted to know if he is one. I would expect a true Nazi to say Nazi things but AFAIK Platner hasn't said any Nazi things.
AloeVera
(4,476 posts)Heading of NYT opinion piece by Michelle Goldberg. Good read on this question.
https://archive.is/gMNpr
LetMyPeopleVote
(182,786 posts)I have seen a great deal on this. This is just one example that Collins would use against Platner in a general election campaign.
Link to tweet

I have seen some other oppo that pesters me including the material on this thread.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)running for public office.
As far as I am concerned, it shows bad judgement.
EdmondDantes_
(2,147 posts)Nothing says he's been doing it recently.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)He has been doing it during the marriage. So what are you talking about? What's recent to you?
EdmondDantes_
(2,147 posts)I can't fault someone for sexting in general, but obviously doing it outside of your partner while married is gross and I wonder why their relationship survived.
But compared to his other problems like the tattoo and his misogynistic posts, still using retarded as a slur, and associating with antisemitic YouTube people, the sexting is minor. Guy doesn't seem like he makes great decisions.
mcar
(46,437 posts)AloeVera
(4,476 posts)And now he is running for sainthood, so it appears.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)doesn't count.
Good to know.
AloeVera
(4,476 posts)Unlike any other candidate that ever had marriage problems or showed poor judgement in his PERSONAL life. And if that were the case, we'd have trouble finding enough saints to run for office.
But it's Platner, who is a " direct threat to the US- Israel relationship" (AIPAC's words, not mine), so all of a sudden some democrats are rediscovering their moral outrage at personal peccadillos that they usually, for anyone else, recognize as none of their business.
karynnj
(61,154 posts)he has an unusual amount of Teflon! I can't think of many Democrats who would have been given a pass on those.
sheshe2
(98,657 posts)Moral Outrage?
Rape apology just a peccadillo.
R word just a peccadillo.
Nazi tat just a peccadillo.
Anti gay slurs...peccadillo.
It is everyone's business when they run for a high office. We as Democrats do not support any of the above. This is not who we are.
He has apologized over and over again as these surface, maybe that is enough. Maine voters will decide.
AloeVera
(4,476 posts)Going out on a limb here. I do disagree with the characterization he was a "rape apologist" back in his Reddit days. His exact words, "Rape is a real thing". Yes, he said women should be careful not to get blacked-out drunk and put themselves in "compromising positions". I know some view that as rape apology, I do not. It's something a male relative told me when I was young. I doubt he was a "rape apologist". His advice came from a good place, concern and love for me. I wager a lot of other young women received the same advice. So am I a rape apologist too and have my "feminist card" revoked?
My thinking on it is this. I read that Scotland has a very progressive and laudable law that any sexual activity with a drunk person is considered sexual assault. Scottish society recognizes that true consent cannot be given by someone inebriated and anyone taking advantage of that is guilty of rape - whether the consent appears to have been given by the victim or not. We should all be so progressive.
Scotland did not say "don't get drunk" but recognizes who is the true victim. But in order to get to that enlightened stage, it would have had to first recognize that victims can't give true consent AND that rapists do take advantage of the inability to give true consent. In his crude, patronizing way of the 20-something Platner, the latter point is what Platner was stumbling towards, or intended to convey.
I suppose I'll get flamed for this. I don't mind being schooled by resident experts on the matter, if I am wrong. But I felt it needed to be said because I've seen the "rape apologist" accusation thrown around and it didn't sit right with me, and I do know about rape apologia - or think I do.
JFC
mr715
(4,382 posts)PatSeg
(53,704 posts)Thanks for posting.
sop
(19,526 posts)Chasstev365
(8,219 posts)sop
(19,526 posts)Chasstev365
(8,219 posts)WTF is going on up there, do they do ANY vetting at all?
lapucelle
(21,171 posts)who called Mary (mother of Jesus) a "skank", voted for Collins three times, did not vote for Biden in 2020 and did not vote for Harris in 2024, posted that he enlisted in the Marines to have an adventure and "kill people", falsely claimed that he bought his house with a VA mortgage when his rich father gave him the money, and *accidentally* had a Nazi tattoo on his chest for more than a decade, a fact that we know because he likes to buffoon around in public with his shirt off.
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Now for the question at hand: Did the high powered consultants and influencers who astroturfed his campaign vet him? It's possible that the answer is "yes" and equally possible that they didn't care.
Did everybody on his team know about his history at the outset of the campaign? Probably not. Three high level campaign staffers resigned in October 2025 when the stories started breaking. Platner required NDA agreements going forward.
There will be three Democratic candidates on the ranked choice ME ballot on June 9. Platner is only one of them.
lapucelle
(21,171 posts)but only because of the current state of media affairs"?

Skittles
(173,204 posts)misanthrope
(9,654 posts)sounds like a high risk to go full Fetterman/Sinema if they were to get in office.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)wondering if the same types who believed everything John Fetterman said are now doing the same thing with this guy. That is a wasted senate seat, and people notice stuff like that.
Emile
(43,572 posts)Chuck Schumer gave $1 million to John Fetterman's campaign. Now Chuck Schumer is doing the same thing with Mills.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)It was the Bernie people who found Platner. They also found Fetterman.
Emile
(43,572 posts)We know Mills is running as a centrist, so does Chuck Schumer.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)We heard all the "progressive" claptrap about Lamb, and it turns out Fetterman had you all fooled. Lamb would have been the much better choice. Schumer being dragged into this to rewrite history is really pretty dumb.
Emile
(43,572 posts)Fetterman didn't. After all was said and done, we still ended up with a damn centrist.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)Fetterman was considered a progressive firebrand. He fooled you , just admit it and move on with your life.? Your obsession is getting a bit scary. Trump is also obsessed like this as we know. Its nonstop lawsuits and obsessions over losing 2020. You really need to move on. Nothing you are trying to paint here is reality.
Emile
(43,572 posts)fooled me. Nothing worse than a lying centrist.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)Truly into scary territory.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)"a firebrand progressive"
"Fetterman, a firebrand progressive who had been endorsed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (IVt.), overcame concerns about his health after suffering a stroke in May, and a shaky debate performance, to prevail after an intensely negative campaign."
Emile
(43,572 posts)lapucelle
(21,171 posts)I remember when Sanders endorsed and then un-endorsed Cenk Uyger.
Sanders had come under fire from supporters for backing someone who had made demeaning and controversial comments about women, Muslims and African Americans.
Sen. Bernie Sanders pulled his endorsement for a California congressional candidate on Friday after coming under fire for supporting the online news personality who has made degrading comments about African Americans and women.
In a statement posted online, Sanders said Uygur will serve ordinary people, not powerful special interests. He is a voice that we desperately need in Congress & will be a great representative for CA-25 and the country.
In one blog post from 2000, Uygur wrote that obviously, the genes of women are flawed. They are poorly designed creatures who do not want to have sex nearly as often as needed for the human race to get along peaceably and fruitfully.
Uygur also came under fire for using the N-word on his show multiple times. He acknowledged this week that The Young Turks" had a policy of using the N-word when quoting racists as a means of mocking them but stopped after complaints.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/bernie-sanders-retracts-cenk-uyger-endorsement-after-backlash-n1102171
Gabbard, Turner, Uyger, Fetterman, and now Platner. He sure can pick 'em.
Emile
(43,572 posts)lapucelle
(21,171 posts)Emile
(43,572 posts)Nixie
(18,154 posts)ever required of Bernie for how these people were never "progressive" and never Democrats -- except for what they could use. Instead, it's a rewriting of history by a few to blame Chuck Schumer.
Uyger played spoiler to some candidates in Southern California, If I remember. He was a Republican and then went all the way over to "progressive" for his radio show, it looks like. What are the odds that a Republican magically converts to "progressive." Some people believe anything.
betsuni
(29,358 posts)lapucelle
(21,171 posts)sop
(19,526 posts)lapucelle
(21,171 posts)and it's not too late for Platner to do the decent thing and drop out and for Democrats to rally behind Costello.
I, too, would prefer that Collins not be re-elected and that Platner not be a drag on every Democrat running in 2026.
sop
(19,526 posts)In the real world, however, everyone agrees it will be Platner and Collins in the general election.
lapucelle
(21,171 posts)He's a Democrat with experience in government and a history of public service. And he's lived in Maine his whole life.

Americanme
(572 posts)I myself have gone to a tattoo shop, looked at all the skull designs, and picked one, without researching the history of each skull design. I wasn't born until 1962, I don't know all of the nazi symbolism, I sure never heard of a totenkopf before this story broke. His story makes sense to me, especially when his social media history has many mentions of how he hates nazis.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)NT
Americanme
(572 posts)But I did watch his wife's video, she says it's a non-issue. She feels betrayed by the former friend/campaign worker who blabbed.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)She didn't think his sexting was going to come out? He is running for senate, last time I checked.
If you don't want your behavior scrutinized, it's not a good idea to run for prominent public office.
Americanme
(572 posts)I've always said, if you want your life private, don't run for public office.
intheflow
(30,273 posts)If someone answers thoughtfully. by all means, don't respond to that, just change the line of attack.
EX500rider
(12,799 posts)Why didn't he cover it up years ago?
MichMan
(17,463 posts)LisaL
(47,619 posts)If you got a Nazi tattoo without realizing it, would you not want it gone?
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,532 posts)And there is no way he went 20 years without knowing exactly what it was. I could believe he got while drunk. There is zero chance a self described ww2 and history buff didn't know he had a totenkopf on his chest though. And even if he's lying about his interests in history and ww2, there is no chance you go 20 years without realizing what it is or someone else noticing it and saying something.
This would be less of an issue if he got it covered over within a year of getting it, not 2 decades later and only when it would become a problem for an election run.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)he knew what he was doing with the tattoo.
My concern (yes its a concern but more a curiosity since I usually only notice him here) where is his criticism of Bush/Cheney?? He fought and reenlisted in their phony wars, saw his comrades and peers die for nothing, yet his most vocal and consistent messaging is against Democrats. Things dont add up.
Edit: maybe there is something from him that criticizes specifically Bush/Cheney. I would be curious to see it.
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,289 posts)Nixie
(18,154 posts)own dialogue that would indicate his awareness that Bush/Cheney were responsible for the war and lied to make it happen. It would seem he would be conversant in their deceptive policies. He seems very wordy with his criticism of Democrats.
AloeVera
(4,476 posts)I don't know why you assume he hasn't, when a quick search would prove your assumption wrong.
Oh well, perhaps its just the latest talking point about Platner. I'm sure he'll have the kitchen sink thrown at him too eventually.
When Cheney died, Platner posted a video. Partial transcript:
Over the next couple days, Im sure there are going to be thousands of think pieces written about his legacy, but the only legacy that we have to remember is that he wasted thousands of young American lives, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, and trillions of dollars for absolutely nothing,
If we take anything away from this, it should be that we need to build a politics that keeps the politicians like Susan Collins, who support illegal foreign wars like the one in Iraq, accountable and get them out of office,.
Link to tweet
Nixie
(18,154 posts)someone criticizes Democrats more than Republicans who started an evil and phony war.
And his main criticism is about Susan Collins.
Fail.
AloeVera
(4,476 posts)Do you expect to see his opinions as a private citizen written up in the NYT?
What? Main criticism is about Susan Collins? Did you miss this part he said about CHENEY?
"...the only legacy that we have to remember is that he wasted thousands of young American lives, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, and trillions of dollars for absolutely nothing.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)Maybe that's why he had no criticism of them? and he enlisted and reenlisted in the wars. He was vocal about some things in his past that he's been opinionated about, but not about Bush/Cheney, apparently. I guess that's the way of former Republicans?? All his past Reddit comments are surfacing. There is more to the world than the New York Times, lol. Some people compare words with actions. Welcome to politics.
Edit: and he pivoted right to Collins as a campaign ad.
You didn't want him to use the opportunity of Cheney's death to attack Collins by linking the two? Is he not supposed to attack Collins?
He just can't do anything right in your view - even when he's doing EXACTLY what a democratic candidate is supposed to do. Why is that?
Platner had no formal Republicam affiliation. Did he say he was a Republican on Reddit, is that where this latest talking point on him is coming from?
Could you please point me to a citation? Reddit post? Any reference or evidence that he was a Republican at all? Many thanks in advance.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)this site, but you sure can ruminate all about AIPAC in relation to him in another post. It's not believable that you don't even know about his Reddit posts and you can't recall ever seeing anything at all about the content of those.
I think we're done here. Your so-called questions are just disingenuous, sorry.
AloeVera
(4,476 posts)Not even one source to verify your claim he was a Republican?
Yup, we're done.
Nixie
(18,154 posts)If you are not conversant with his past, then thats on you. You sure seem to know plenty about him in your other posts, including an AIPAC obsession. Bye now .
sheshe2
(98,657 posts)In a wide-ranging interview, Platner addressed the scandals that have engulfed his campaign and said hes very proud of who I am today after the arcs and valleys of his life. He inveighed against establishment politics, dished on his tense relationship with national Democratic leaders, made the case that hes more electable than Democratic Gov. Janet Mills and explained why he went from voting for Republican Sen. Susan Collins years ago to viewing her as an empty vessel today.
snip
Platner said he has voted for Susan Collins at least once, possibly twice but it was a long time ago as the 72-year-old incumbent closes in on 30 years in the Senate.
I also believed back then that she was a moderate. As time has gone by, I dont believe that. I think thats a charade, and its worn thin, he said. I see Collins as, frankly, just another self-interested, establishment politician who uses this kind of myth of their moderation to stay in power, but doesnt really do anything with their power. Shes the chair of the Appropriations Committee. I was told for years that when she got the gavel, there was going to be a boon of riches for the state of Maine. That is not materializing.
snip
In one of his posts, Platner wrote, I got older and became a communist. He said he has never considered himself to be a communist and that the comment was merely internet s---posting and also
if you read its very clear that Im joking.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/graham-platner-controversies-maine-senate-campaign-rcna240367
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I originally posted this here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221177331
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He voted for her once.....maybe twice and that makes it most of his adult life since a Senator runs every 6 years.
AloeVera
(4,476 posts)Voting for a candidate does not legally make you a member of that party.
In Maine, it's not unheard of for Democrats to have voted for Susan Collins, the snake that she is presenting herself as a "moderate" - while voting for a Democrat for President.
Thanks for this but I'll still wait for someone to convince me with facts that he was a Republican. Like a public record of his voter registration.
Until then, I'll believe that it's a baseless accusation, one of many against him.
sheshe2
(98,657 posts)Voting for a candidate does not legally make you a member of that party.
When I was a youngster, I registered as an Independent because I thought it was a pretty cool thing to do. I had left my parents' house, which was a pretty miserable place to be at the time and wanted to be free!!! I only voted for the Democratic candidate, never the repuke and changed over to register as a D.
lapucelle
(21,171 posts)https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/graham-platner-controversies-maine-senate-campaign-rcna240367
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Wannabe Edgelord Platner told his friends on Reddit that he voted for Collins in every election in which I had the option."
Assuming that he bothered to vote once he turned 18, that would mean that Platner voted for Collins in 2002, 2008, and 2014.
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lapucelle
(21,171 posts)lapucelle
(21,171 posts)despite the fact that his parents were wealthy enough to send him to Hotchkiss, give him a mortgage *loan*, and buy him a business?
lapucelle
(21,171 posts)He told NBC news that he voted for Collins, "once, maybe twice".
Before he was running for anything as a Democrat, Platner told his friends on Reddit that he voted for Collins in every election in which I had the option."
Assuming that he bothered to vote once he turned 18, that would mean that Platner voted for Collins in 2002, 2008, and 2014.

Coolgoober
(402 posts)I didn't read these posts until way later. I just wanted to say thanks because I've run into the same thing on here where people will make a claim and swear on the holy Bible that it's true but will not under any circumstances provide you with a clip or article or post or whatever else is supposed to back up their claim. Just seems like they're full of shit
sheshe2
(98,657 posts)Read post 107
AloeVera
(4,476 posts)But you ignored that.
Old-8643
(38 posts)If you use a qwerty keyboard, you have the letters G O O G L E
do your research.
questionseverything
(12,018 posts)Wb I guess
Old-8643
(38 posts)Exactly what rule did I break or what rule am I trying to institute.
Wb? What is that, please explain and I will share an acronym with you.
Little touchy today aren't we.
Cheers
Old-8643
(38 posts)Exactly what rule did I break or what rule am I trying to institute.
Wb? What is that, please explain and I will share an acronym with you.
Little touchy today aren't we.
Cheers
Coolgoober
(402 posts)People prove it. I'm not going to waste my time looking for something that isn't there. Keep grasping at straws.
EX500rider
(12,799 posts)Then when out joined Blackwater to get back into it?
wierd
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,825 posts)Or maybe pandering.
Takket
(23,828 posts)I really don't like this at all... i'm still kind of baffled at Mills and Platner are really all the Democratic Party could offer up for this race?
but regardless, i got one guy with a Nazi tattoo he says he didn't know about its meaning, and i got one women that has supported actual Nazi policies. so to me the choice here is pretty obvious, and I hope it is to Mainers as well.
My deeper fear is that we are walking right into another Manchin/Sinema/Fetterman trap and this guy is going to derail our agenda before if ever even starts if we actually manage to win the Senate. But nothing can be done about that because we already KNOW Collins is horrible.
PatSeg
(53,704 posts)Why isn't anyone talking about him?
https://www.costelloforsenate.com/
Scrivener7
(60,149 posts)PatSeg
(53,704 posts)is getting so much attention because he is a controversial candidate. That's rather depressing.
DonCoquixote
(13,988 posts)or altered, any decent tatoo parlor could have done that. Indeed, many tattoo artists willingly donate to prisons top wipe out nazi tattoos
https://astanzalaser.com/three-reasons-tattoo-artists-love-laser-tattoo-removal/
MineralMan
(151,732 posts)Only question that matters, really.
Otherwise we get someone who does not do that.
Question answered.
I don't vote in that state, anyhow. Do you?
PCB66
(194 posts)being a Floridian but to me the most discerning thing about his candidacy is him dishonoring a fellow veteran and not apologizing for it.
That shows immaturity and an underling rage.
Ocelot II
(131,475 posts)Since their respective GOP and Dem candidates are Collins and Platner, the decision is binary (which includes not voting at all). Their Senator will be one or the other. We know what Collins is like. We know Platner has (or had) a tattoo of a symbol associated with Nazis. Seems to me that the more important issue is whether Platner himself is a Nazi, and whether he has ever said anything suggesting he sympathizes or agrees with Nazi principles. I'll have to leave that up to the voters in Maine to look into.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)NT
2naSalit
(103,990 posts)Is highly problematic but his sexist texts and things he has posted really matter to those of us who were born without a penis.
MontanaMama
(24,765 posts)How many red flags are enough red flags?
sheshe2
(98,657 posts)I have posted about this elsewhere after watching the video. Something is off about it and that is all I will say on this board.
RandomNumbers
(19,269 posts)I wish Maine had nominated someone better. (on both tickets - it would be so nice to be able to choose between two excellent candidates for a change)
But I damned sure know which one is better for Maine and America. And it ain't the concerned doormat for the Rapist Felon Party.
Irish_Dem
(82,718 posts)Those names keep popping into my head right now for some odd reason.
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Emile
(43,572 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,718 posts)LOL.
Emile
(43,572 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,718 posts)Emile
(43,572 posts)who was, and is centrist?
Irish_Dem
(82,718 posts)I want to keep up with the new value system.
ColoringFool
(1,202 posts)It should be "Sexual pervert bad. Nazi good." ⁉️⁉️⁉️
Irish_Dem
(82,718 posts)Yes both are bad.
People with a moral core know that.
mr715
(4,382 posts)Seriously, a barbed wire band on her bicep?
The woman is a sitting Senator and she has a Bugs Bunny tattooed on her lower back.
The indiginity.
Chasstev365
(8,219 posts)mr715
(4,382 posts)GoodRaisin
(11,105 posts)murder, kidnapping, larceny and corruption and saying nothing. Not even that she was concerned.
Maine voters will have to pick their poison or stay home. There are no sparkling candidates in this race.
Polybius
(22,173 posts)mr715
(4,382 posts)Response to Chasstev365 (Original post)
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LisaL
(47,619 posts)Sexting with multiple women while newly married? Check.
Nazi tattoo? Check.
That's perfection right there.
gulliver
(14,117 posts)I'd argue that losing to Trump was dispositive. I voted for Harris and Walz, but we lost every swing state.
Some folks think we weren't left enough. I won't go into a discussion about what is truly left and what is just performative. But some folks want to try what they think of as left and take it further. It looks like that's what we're going to try.
The good thing is, we'll have the result of that experiment after the midterms. I don't want to lose 2028. If we don't do very well in the midterms, that means the people who think of their definition of left as being the left and who got less than stellar results need to take a back seat and hand the mic to others as a matter of duty to the Democratic Party.
If we do exceedingly well in the midterms and win both Houses of Congress, then the people have spoken, and I'll accept that. Let the experiment be run.
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AloeVera
(4,476 posts)So as we see everywhere on media, all hands on deck, guns drawn and knives out.
If Platner survives, AIPAC and the Epstein class will have a well-deserved fit. Can't wait.
RandySF
(86,782 posts)Always Blue
(72 posts)He is being targeted by them. Just like Thomas Massie was. Making an issue out of the tattoo is inane. AIPAC was behind it.
RandySF
(86,782 posts)sarisataka
(22,874 posts)It was probably an AIPAC operative with him in the tattoo shop tricking him into getting it so he could be targeted when he ran for office years later.
"They" play the long game and "their" hand is in everything.
BTW would it still be inane to make an issue of a tattoo if it is a swastika- it's just an old south Asian good luck symbol...
Miami Blue
(391 posts)That Platner put on his body when he was an
a naivé / ignorant young man.
How come no one is criticizing the drunkard / accused rapist, dishonorable, and the so-called Department of War's Secretary Pete Hegseth?
Pete Hegseth proudly shows his Nazi tattoos and then he identifies them and insists that they are only his Christian tattoos.
So Democrats dont you fall into the Republicans' trap when we all well know that in reality these MAGA NAZIS.
Are the obnoxious members of the Pedo in Chiefs Nazi KKKult who attacked the Capitol Building and now they are asking for
Reparation Money.
Their KKK leader TyrantTraitorPedoTrump
is asserting currently the following:
👇🏻
My followers all suffered systemic
Injustice, Political Prosecution, and
Government Lawfare.
rogue emissary
(3,386 posts)for sec of Defense.
Miami Blue
(391 posts)I was referring to the tattoos on Graham Platners body that he got, as a young and
naive man.
Which to my knowledge, nowadays he has covered -up with a new design of a Celtic
A dog and a cross.
On the contrary, the drunkard and alleged rapist
Pete Hegseth is still proudly showing his Nazi tattoos. Because he claims that his tattoos are Christian tattoos.
PS
It is my conviction that a self-identified Christian Nationalist like Pete Hegseth is an extremely dangerous individual in our society.
rogue emissary
(3,386 posts)"How come no one is criticizing the drunkard / accused rapist, dishonorable, and the so-called Department of War's Secretary Pete Hegseth?"
As I responded many did criticize pete as no Democrat voted for him.
Miami Blue
(391 posts)My warm greetings to you from Miami.
rogue emissary
(3,386 posts)RockRaven
(19,807 posts)The dead are dead and will never be un-dead, I can do nothing about that. Preventing future atrocities is my goal, and that lies with getting Repugs out of office, every single one, no matter how undesirable or flawed the Democrat replacing them is.
And as I have neither a time machine nor an ability to dictate how Mainers vote, he's the fucking nominee now. Work with it, or quietly get the fuck out of the way.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)NT
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,825 posts)RockRaven
(19,807 posts)Those people can show an example where that has ever happened if they want anyone else to believe that. Meanwhile the rest can continue to deal with the world as it is, not how they might wish it to be.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,825 posts)"Those people" lol.
mr715
(4,382 posts)RockRaven
(19,807 posts)The primary cake is baked.
I'm not saying I like it. I'm not saying anyone has to like it. But let's cut the pie-in-the-sky crap and deal with reality: he's winning the primary, and the choice now is to have that seat for Dems or have that seat for Repugs.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)That's all I have to say about this.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,825 posts)if he's nominated.
I guess that's really the point.
mr715
(4,382 posts)you will be very happy that Susan Collins loses.
BWdem4life
(3,113 posts)Hes had plenty of opportunity to remove it or change it into something else.
Rob H.
(5,948 posts)Facts contradict the distaste people have for past behaviors. None of that now!
BWdem4life
(3,113 posts)So having it for nearly 20 years doesn't count?
mcar
(46,437 posts)He had it for 20+ years.
Skittles
(173,204 posts)Chasstev365
(8,219 posts)SSJVegeta
(3,251 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(27,289 posts)SSJVegeta
(3,251 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(27,289 posts)LisaL
(47,619 posts)Utilized by neo-Nazis and white supremacist groups.
EX500rider
(12,799 posts)Following the war, neo-Nazis and other white supremacists resurrected the Totenkopf as a hate symbol because of its importance to the SS and it has been a common hate symbol since. It is this particular image of a skull and crossbones that is considered a hate symbol, not any image of a skull and crossbones.
GCG
(129 posts)That emblem can be traced all the way back to the early 19th Century
Prussia
Use of the Totenkopf in Germany as a military emblem began under Frederick the Great, who formed a regiment of Hussar cavalry in the Prussian army commanded by Colonel von Ruesch, the Husaren-Regiment Nr. 5 (von Ruesch). It adopted a black uniform with a Totenkopf emblazoned on the front of its mirlitons and wore it on the field in the War of Austrian Succession and in the Seven Years' War. The Totenkopf remained a part of the uniform when the regiment was reformed into Leib-Husaren Regiments Nr.1 and Nr.2 in 1808. The symbol was then granted 3 years later to the Spanish Armys 8th Light Cavalry Regiment Lusitania, who were nicknamed Los Dragones de la Muerte (the Dragons of Death) and were granted use of the skull after the infamous Battle of Madonna dell'Olmo in 1744, where they suffered great casualties.
Brunswick
Totenkopf badge worn by the Brunswick Leibbataillon ("Life-Guard Battalion"
at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815
In 1809, during the War of the Fifth Coalition, Frederick William, Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel raised a force of volunteers to fight Napoleon Bonaparte, who had conquered the Duke's lands. The Brunswick Corps was provided with black uniforms, giving rise to their nickname, the Black Brunswickers. Both hussar cavalry and infantry in the force wore a Totenkopf badge, either in mourning for the duke's father, Charles William Ferdinand, Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbüttel, who had been killed at the Battle of JenaAuerstedt in 1806, or according to some sources, as a sign of revenge against the French. After fighting their way through Germany, the Black Brunswickers entered British service and fought with them in the Peninsular War and at the Battle of Waterloo. The Brunswick corps was eventually incorporated into the Prussian Army in 1866.
German Empire
The skull continued to be used by the Prussian and Brunswick armed forces until 1918, and some of the stormtroopers that led the last German offensives on the Western Front in 1918 used skull badges. Luftstreitkräfte fighter pilots Georg von Hantelmann and Kurt Adolf Monnington are just two of a number of Central Powers military pilots who used the Totenkopf as their personal aircraft insignia.
Weimar Republic
The Totenkopf was used in Germany throughout the interwar period, most prominently by the Freikorps. In 1933, it was in use by the regimental staff and the 1st, 5th, and 11th squadrons of the Reichswehr's 5th Cavalry Regiment as a continuation of a tradition from the Kaiserreich.
US Military
The U.S. military does not have an official, standard-issue "death's head" insignia. However, the skull and crossbones (Totenkopf) motif has occasionally appeared in unofficial unit patches and unofficial morale gearthough these have occasionally sparked investigations or controversy due to the symbol's historical ties to Nazi Germany's SS units.
UK
The death's head (skull and crossbones) is a historic military emblem used by the British Army, famously featured on the cap badge of The Royal Lancers (and their antecedent units, the 17th Lancers and the 17th/21st Lancers).
EX500rider
(12,799 posts)Doesn't it make its current use any less odious
PCB66
(194 posts)It was first started by WWII Army Air Corps veterans. They bombed the shit out of the Nazis.
However, when they got home and started their little motorcycle club in LA many of them wore surplus German Army helmets.
LetMyPeopleVote
(182,786 posts)oldmanlynn
(859 posts)Maine Senate candidate Graham Platner has stated that his former chest tattoo, which resembled a Nazi Totenkopf or SS skull emblem, was an innocent mistake. He explained he chose the design as a 20-something Marine in Croatia in 2007 during a night of drinking, assuming it was just a typical skull and crossbones
LisaL
(47,619 posts)He might have done it many years ago, but he didn't cover it for many years either. And by the way, 30 years ago he was 11.
He didn't do it 30 years ago.
Polybius
(22,173 posts)He's 41.
enid602
(9,769 posts)There are dangerous Nazis out there: Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir, Smotrich, Daniella Weiss, etc. Maybe we should go after them instead of funding them.
WarGamer
(18,892 posts)LisaL
(47,619 posts)But yea, likely it was more.
ruth diamond
(6 posts)I think it was a marine tough guy tattoo.
sarisataka
(22,874 posts)I never saw that particular skull design in any tattoo they wore.
It does match the skull insignia that was on every SS member's cap and was on the collar tab of concentration camp guards.
You, of course, are entitled to your own opinion.
WarGamer
(18,892 posts)AZProgressive
(30,023 posts)Since he is the likely nominee for the Senate I'll take his explanation at face value and there's nothing else really to do. As far as his campaigning he is campaigning as an anti-racist. The Republicans have Nazi values without the tattoos though some have them like Hegseth but with Hegseth it is his current actions that show he is not a good person with or without the tattoos.
Platner whether you like him or not has done the hard work it takes to win a statewide election by declaring early and doing town halls all over the state the entire election cycle and it shows why he still has a lead over Susan Collins and is the likely winner of the Democratic primary despite the scandals.
Autumn
(49,029 posts)and he sure as fuck isn't a Nazi. The military promotes RW garbage. He seems to have grown up and gotten past it.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)Only covering it up last year.
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LisaL
(47,619 posts)I never said he got his tattoo 30 years ago. 30 years ago he was only 11 years old.
milestogo
(23,240 posts)For me thats a disqualifier.
Emile
(43,572 posts)is a list to help you.
Ban billionaires buying elections
Rebuild our failing healthcare system
Support Small Business Break Up the Monopolies
Stop the mass deportation machine; pass real immigration reform
Defend our air, our water, our land and our climate
Decisive action on the housing crisis
Defend Medicare and Medicaid
Protect Social Security before it goes bankrupt
End Billionaire Welfare, Pass a Cost-of-Living Tax Cut
Uphold tribal sovereignty and self-determination
Defend democracy and the Constitution
Strengthen our working waterfront
Support unions, and bring good union jobs to Maine
Defend and support public schools
Keep government out of our private lives; defend the right to choose
Protect Maines economy: raise the federal minimum wage
Equality for ALL
The War in Gaza
End the failed War on Drugs
Take on waste and corruption at the Pentagon; rebuild American shipbuilding
No more pointless wars
Address the childcare crisis
Support Americans with disabilities
Pay servicemen a fair wage; no more servicemen on food stamps
Defend the VA and support our veterans
Defend the Post Office and establish postal banking
Pass term limits and hold politicians to their term limits pledges
milestogo
(23,240 posts)Emile
(43,572 posts)Try again.
milestogo
(23,240 posts)and HAS NEVER sent sexts to women he is not married to?
Really?
Is that how desperate we are?
Emile
(43,572 posts)be something in his platform you're against.
milestogo
(23,240 posts)Emile
(43,572 posts)milestogo
(23,240 posts)Eric Swalwell had a great platform too.
Emile
(43,572 posts)make it easy for you.
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mainer
(12,600 posts)And all people can talk about is tattoos and sexting?
questionseverything
(12,018 posts)Which is directly tied to republicans and their support of Israel
Iran announced they are permanently closing the strait because Israel will not stop bombing its neighbors but that gets ignored by du
sarisataka
(22,874 posts)I guess they really are behind it all
questionseverything
(12,018 posts)Those pols have many millions to support Israel and nothing to feed our own people
sarisataka
(22,874 posts)vapor2
(5,000 posts)and recall that Al Franken was forced to resign for a photo
Jack Valentino
(5,266 posts)Torchlight
(7,105 posts)"With devotion's visage and pious action we do sugar over the devil himself" (WS)
standingtall
(3,196 posts)and antisemitism. Well Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK at one point in his life. Still ended up being a really good Democratic Senator way better than Joe Manchin. Albert Parsons was a confederate soldier and then denounced confederacy and helped black people to register to vote at least before becoming an anarchist. Fetterman vibes? He may have voted or been a republican at one point in his life? Hilary Clinton was a republican at one point in her life too. People can have genuine ideological shifts it can happen so I doubt he will be another Fetterman. I wont sugarcoat it though the sexting thing is not a good look. We need to know if all parties involved in the sexting were willing participants or if it was just harassment, but he was still newly married so not good either way, but I think he can survive the sexting scandal if the women involved were willingly participating, but I don't have a vote in Maine.
mainer
(12,600 posts)There's a wild rumor all over X now that Platner referred to his penis as "Mein Fuhrer", with a so-called screenshot from the Wall Street Journal.
It's fake. The Wall Street Journal printed no such thing, and fact checkers have deemed it a fake. Yet everyone seems to believe that's really what Platner texted. The fact that so many lies are being spread about this man tells me the GOP is really, really afraid of him winning.
Link to tweet
?s=20
lapfog_1
(32,023 posts)and I felt the same way about Fetterman... but I donated to Fetterman anyway. Oops.
Emile
(43,572 posts)LisaL
(47,619 posts)Emile
(43,572 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,682 posts)Murphy said he hadnt followed the texting story as closely as others but said Platner was still the best opponent for incumbent Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine).
Graham Platner is somebody who served our country, hes served his community; hes also made mistakes and hes admitted that, Murphy said during an appearance on CBSs Face the Nation.
Character also involves standing up to people who are bankrupting and corrupting this country. And this race is going to be a contrast between somebody who has put his life on the line for this country, against somebody who is literally empowering the moral hollowing-out of our nation from the White House, the lawmaker added.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5903805-murphy-backs-platner-senate-race/]
mr715
(4,382 posts)and for Booker to not be.
PCB66
(194 posts)the more flawed he seems.
It may boil down to electing the party and not the individual.
Surely as Democrats we could have found somebody better than him.
LisaL
(47,619 posts)I don't like this guy one bit.
I also wouldn't be surprised if there are more skeletons in his closet.
Emile
(43,572 posts)Autumn
(49,029 posts)cleaned up his life from that time. When I saw the tattoo I didn't know what the hell it signified.
UpInArms
(55,467 posts)Just stop
ABC123Easy
(366 posts)I agree with you on the Nazi tattoo. That's where Platner lost any support he would ever get from me. I don't live in Maine but if I did, would have serious issues with voting for him.
The sexting is like a method of pre-cheating. It's actively flirting while married and typically leads to cheating on your spouse. If he's been sexting while married (only married 3 years and already sexting) what do you think he'll do as a US Senator? Cheating on your spouse is lying. He hasn't cheated yet that we know of but he is actively flirting with doing so. So to me, this shows he's a piece of shit cheater and a liar........with a Nazi tattoo.
Add that to his privileged, wealthy upbringing, and his use of family connections in his business, etc and I'd never support this guy.
Oystermen with no history in elected office nor any political experience don't typically get elevated to running for US Senate out of nowhere like Platner. How has this guy even gotten to be a candidate? Obviously it's his wealthy family connections.
But again I don't live in Maine. Platner is better than Collins but will he just be another Fetterman, Sinema, or Manchin?
