I have seen "Elders of Zion" levels of antisemitism from the left

[edhopper]

And it is ugly. "Jews rule to world" crap about Israel and it's lobbyist being behind every bad thing that goes on. Every criticism of a Liberal Party in any country is because a Jewish group was behind it.
This is from the Left.


Not here, but in other Social Media.

[mucifer]

1. For a point of education, AIPAC is a horrible lobby organization. J Street IMO is a good one.

Yes, AIPAC does a lot of damage and needs to be called out IMO. But, we are NOT all AIPAC.

AIPAC did there best to take out Daniel Biss a Jewish candidate with an Israeli mother and the grandson of Holocaust survivors. Daniel Biss does not want a blank check to Israel's military. AIPAC spent 7 million dollars trying to defeat Biss. He won. He will be in the House. A republican cannot win in his district.

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[marybourg]

6. AIPAC is an organization whose job it is

To lobby for Israel. It has done that job extremely well over the years. if you think it’s a horrible organization then you’re saying that lobbying for Israel is a horrible thing.

Aren’t you really saying that Israel is a horrible country? Didn’t you only start saying this after Israel was brought to its knees by the Hamas attack, and had to fight for its very existence? How many attacks like the Hamas attack could a tiny country like Israel survive.?

How much pro – Palestinian lobbying have you been hearing? I know it’s a lot because it’s been right here on DU for quite some time — And being swayed by? Are the pro Palestinian lobbying institutions horrible also?

[JT45242]

26. Yes. It should be illegal for foreign countries to lobby and buy politicians here

Period. End of statement.

That the netanyahu regime is corrupt and committing war crimes makes it even more awful.

I weep for the Jews, arabs, Christians, and every one else who have suffered under Netanyahu's and the PLO and affiliated opposition terror.

That does not make me antisemitic. It makes me anti criminal.

Unfortunately, bibi is as much a symptom as a cause.

I want big money and all foreign money out of politics. AIPAC should not be able to buy elections. We wouldn't want Putin, the CCP, or any other foreign power to gave that pull in elections.

[yardwork]

35. Putin and other billionaires are heavily influencing our elections.

The floodgates were opened with the Supreme Court's decision in the sarcastically named Citizens United case.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/citizens-united-explained

[Oneironaut]

39. The leadership of Israel is awful and commits war crimes.

AIPAC supports Israel’s continued committing of war crimes, and is therefore awful as well. It’s like any other bad Conservative influence group or think tank.

Hamas fighters committed horrific war crimes on Oct. 7th, and, continue to commit war crimes.

Israel is not in itself bad. Rather, Its current leadership needs to be in prison, just like that of Hamas. Both sides have extremist leadership that have done horrific things and terrorized civilians.

[edhopper]

8. Yes

But are they controlling the Democratic party?

[mopinko]

13. aipac is a drop in the bucket. they arent evil, just conservative.

they support a lot of dems that many here on du wd like to see defeated. but compared to the plainly evil oligarchs who flat out want to buy this country, they’re such small potatoes.
anyone who rants about them gets a heavy side eye from me.

[betsuni]

29. Trying to make "AIPAC" and "centrist" into the new triggers of disgust anger and fear to divide Democrats.

As usual, based on nothing and become meaningless insults.

[SunImp]

52. Lol

But it's fine to constantly demonize "Progressive" or "populist" Democrats though?

[Cha]

56. TY & Oh "establishment" is still making the rounds.

A certain candidate in Maine is doing his share to trash Dems.

Not beneficial in helping Dems across the country to win the Midterms.

We have been flipping red seats to Blue. There is momentum.. why discourage that

[betsuni]

63. Accusations they can't prove, name-calling, insults. And, as us always, THEY'RE the victims. BOO HOO

It's your brother picking up your arm and slapping you with it and saying, Why are you hitting yourself?

[SunImp]

65. Accusations they can't prove

Yeah, if you contantly ignore the millions+ spent in races by AIPAC & it's aligned groups I guess you can't keep saying that.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21270555

name-calling, insults Many of that gets hurled at progressives like AOC or Tlaib around here too, but I guess that's fine

[betsuni]

66. PACs giving donations to candidates is not corruption. Campaign finance reform is a top Democratic issue.

[SunImp]

68. Then its an actual threat & not a conspiracy theory

Normal pacs & everyday people won't be able to reach the number aipac like pacs spends on our elections. It's normal for Congress people that have been targeted by these pacs & concerned voters to be frustrated by their influence especially if part of the reason they exist is to benefit outside countries.

Even Congressman Malinosky thinks they lost their minds.

In his previous two terms in Congress, Malinowski supported Israel. But AIPAC targeted him because he now says we should condition that support on some basic respect for human rights. “I committed one sin in their minds,” Malinowski said in January. “I was not willing to tell them that I would unconditionally, unquestionably, blindly support any request for assistance that Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel might make

https://share.google/8vvZH33NPJ7f8csaS

[betsuni]

70. It's a CT that the Democratic Party's a corrupt immoral centrist establishment elite controlled by AIPAC,

wealthy donors, billionaires, oligarchs, lobbyists, corporations who bribe them with campaign contributions that go to paying for ads and campaign expenses. That they are the same as Republicans except for identity politics, have shifted to the Right, ignore the working class, hate progressives and anything progressive (are TERRIFIED by them) and rig elections.

Pure conspiracy theory.

[SunImp]

71. I'm not saying if it's true or not I'm just saying it's a valid concern & shouldn't be brushed off

What's true though is what we can see in open secrets
https://share.google/GtqypeOGijE1NYxO4

[Cha]

67. I know..

And, we know the root problem.

I read earlier that Cenk and PIker were denied entry into the UK..

Good on the UK!

[SamuelTheThird]

40. So pulling the US into a disastrous war with Iran is 'small potatoes'?

Not to mention that little war with Iraq?

[mopinko]

42. that has almost zero to do w aipac, and

everything to do w the mic, oil companies, and evil american oligarchs.

but this is exactly what we’re talking about here.

[SamuelTheThird]

43. Oh really?

https://lobelog.com/aipac-bristles-at-obamas-reminder-of-iraq-war-lobbying/

AIPAC also lobbied against Obama's Iran deal, you'll note

[mopinko]

45. big deal.

u act like they were the only 1s in the room.
this is what we’re talking about- aipac as the big, controlling boogie man.

[SamuelTheThird]

47. lol you said 'almost zero' to do with it

AIPAC’s hardline stance on Iran
AIPAC has long championed a hardline approach to Iran, viewing the Islamic Republic as Israel’s foremost strategic threat. It led opposition to the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), backing “Citizens for a Nuclear Free Iran,” which reportedly spent $20–40 million lobbying against President Obama’s agreement. Even after the deal took effect, AIPAC pushed for renewed sanctions, arguing that any relief fueled Iran’s regional ambitions and weakened Israel’s security.

Under the Trump administration, AIPAC backed efforts to dismantle the JCPOA and endorsed the “maximum pressure” campaign despite warnings from non proliferation experts that it would accelerate Iran’s nuclear advances and embolden hardliners. Framing Iran’s “malign behavior” as proof of the deal’s failure, AIPAC fueled a policy shift culminating in Trump’s 2018 withdrawal and sweeping renewed sanctions.

https://alonben-meir.com/writing/how-aipacs-betrayal-of-its-own-cause-fueled-the-iran-war/

[mopinko]

49. just because they held a position doesnt mean they had power

is my point.
u do understand that iran’s proxies have contributed to much death and destruction in israel, rt? what shd they do? roll over? send valentines? do u think they shouldnt defend themselves? even rhetorically?

[SamuelTheThird]

50. But they've repeatedly demonstrated their power in DC, whom are you trying to kid here?

And in supporting the Iraq war, they ended up empowering hardline factions in Iran...for a start.

[mopinko]

51. i'm done w u.

[mopinko]

20. btw, the candidate they DID support was also a jew.

it wasnt so much their support, it was the part where they stood up a separate pac to cover their involvement.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. As a feature of white supremacy, it's attractive to people of all political leanings unless they actively divest

themselves of it.

[murielm99]

3. There is anti-Semitism here, too.

[hlthe2b]

4. There is NO defense for this horrible vitriol against Jews.

There is a correlation between its dramatic uptick and Netanyahu's devastating policies. That is merely demonstrable fact. One cannot appropriately and righteously denounce the former without acknowledging what is giving a perception of "license" and very misdirected "justification" for this behavior.

For those who do not make a distinction between the policies horrifically impacting Gazan, Lebanese and other nonviolent citizens--as well as Israelis themselves, and the role of Netanyahu in manipulating Trump into this devastating self-destructive war with Iran-- and the absolutely unacceptable antisemitism being advanced as a response, well there can be nothing but denunciation. But one cannot ignore the former while condemning the latter either and likewise escape condemnation in my honest opinion.
'

[yardwork]

23. Correlation is not causation.

There's been a strong uptick in overt anti Jewish rhetoric over the past ten years.

A lot of other things have happened in the same timeframe and Israel's actions are only one of them.

Personally, my observation is that the same online propaganda that elected Trump in 2016 and gave Britain Brexit has been aimed at stirring up latent dislike of Jewish people.

The online communities consumed by young people, especially young men, promote a virulent kind of bigotry that encourages consumers to punch down (literally) at women, Jews, non-whites, gay people, liberals, and anyone else who is not drinking the incel koolaid.

The absolute worst response to increasingly frequent episodes of antisemitism is to blame it all on Israel.

It's reductionist, colonialist, and frankly embarrassing.

[FalloutShelter]

27. Every word of this

[hlthe2b]

31. And that is SPECIFICALLY why I used the term "correlation." It is used as an excuse, but that,

--no matter how inappropriate-- to try to excuse the inexcusable does not justify the denial that this is ongoing as well. Some seek to ignore that or to use the unforgivable ongoing antisemitism to attack those who voice the anger toward Netanyahu for his actions and policies and to conflate that anger with antisemitism. Neither is defensible. Not here either.

[Behind the Aegis]

32. "episodes of antisemitism is to blame it all on Israel."

Literally just saw a TikTok from some "genius" blaming The UK's heatwave on Israel.

There is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING some will not blame on Israel or AIPAC. It is the lipstick they use to gussy up an anti-Semitic pig!

[yardwork]

33. Jewish space lasers?

If only Jewish people were so all powerful. I for one would welcome Jewish overlords. Great food, a culture that values reading, art, and music, arguments with God...

[Behind the Aegis]

34. Don't forget the weather machine! Or the zoo of trained animals for this and that.

I love how a Nazi symbol is a "youthful oopsie" and thinking it is something that should have been a disqualifier or at least given "vetters" some pause, it is seen as "purity" being screeched by people who "won't vote for ANYONE who got money from AIPAC!!!". Talk about "purity test".

[hlthe2b]

36. Yet some believe no amount of criticism is appropriate toward Netanyahu or Israeli policies

and that to suggest justified criticism of Israeli governmental policies and actions in any manner is, as you just put it, "lipstick used to gussy up an anti-Semitic pig." That is horrendous as hell, Behind the Aegis. If you really believe that, you must have zero respect for anyone even slightly in disagreement with your beliefs and an overwhelming contempt for an awful lot of people both on DU and elsewhere who have lived their lives supporting Jews and Judaism throughout the world, and Israel specifically. I sincerely hope that is not the case. Do you really believe that criticizing Netanyahu is synonymous with antisemitism? What about criticizing Trump? Do those of us who do so with zealous fervor hate this country and all fellow Americans?

Many here have dealt with hate directed at themselves-- their race, ethnicity, gender, and many other immutable features, yet have managed to realize that is not the majority of those with whom they may come into contact--either in the US or elsewhere. These people exist (and I am one who has experienced it, including violent hatred and resentment toward me specifically for my gender), but I do not let it color my reactions to all who come my way. Again, I sincerely hope that is not the case with you as well, Behind the Aegis.

[mopinko]

44. i saw that too.

i 🙄🙄🙄 so hard, i saw my brain.

[Behind the Aegis]

69. They are usually the oens who pretend to be "friends" with Jews.

Of course, they 'splain to us what is and isn't anti-Semitism all the time, denying our experiences or, more often, lying about them with whataboutisms and strawman accusations. They twist meanings/facts/statistics to suit their agendas with no interest in truth. And if we don't agree with them, they won't be our friends anymore. When in doubt...blame Israel/AIPAC/Zionists....nothing more than stand-ins for "The Jew"! What they can't, or IMO, WON'T get through their skulls is that it isn't that there is criticism, it is HOW it is delivered. But, it is a story as old...well, as old as Jews.

"Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"

[proud patriot]

41. Agreed

I have a young man in my life who has fallen prey to this.

[mcar]

5. And attacking Democratic politicians who may or may not have

had support from one specific PAC while ignoring all the other "dark money" out there. Janet Mills was criticized right here on DU for taking AIPAC money - even though, IIRC, she didn't.

[The Wizard]

7. Many posts on social media

are bots or trolls designed to mislead or waste your time. Remember how Russian troll farms influenced the 2016 election.

[edhopper]

11. I have seen it on some forums,

where the poster is a real person with many posts on different subjects.
And I have heard people say the same thing.

[appmanga]

10. "Not here, but other social media"...

...it's alright to name-and-shame here. I'd say it's a duty after saying this.

[edhopper]

12. I would

but I don't have any specific instances here.

[appmanga]

55. You've "seen", but don't have any specific instances?

I'm not going to pretend I'm surprised.

Is there something in your mindset that says saying this kind of thing with nothing to back it up has some kind of positive value?

[edhopper]

57. I don't have instances on DU

Plenty on other forums.

[appmanga]

59. Once again, please share. (n/t)

[edhopper]

60. I don't know the ethics of sharing someone's post

To attack it.
I've seen them, believe me or not.

[appmanga]

61. I've seen Bigfoot...

...believe me, or not.

Not to be flippant, because I believe it's a very serious thing that you've said, yet you have no desire to back it up. That doesn't speak well for you or your motives. Believe it, or not.

[edhopper]

62. Okay

You haven't seen it from any one on the left.
Others here have.
There is antisemitism on the left. Believe it or not.

[LexVegas]

14. The left and right bend and meet at anti-Semitism. nt

[mopinko]

15. there's plenty of it here.

they just make sure to word it in the acceptable costumes of the day. “aipac” “gaza” “netanyahu”
never a word about what israel is up against, and has been since b4 1948. no indication that they know a wit of history.

[Chautauquas]

17. Agree some never address what Israel is up against

but the other side is that the a lot of Israel supporters remain silent when there's reports of the horrors Israel is committing in Gaza or when Israeli "settlers" launch murderous attacks and outright steal territory.

[mopinko]

18. a lot of what happens in the west bank is misreported.

every death that occurs is sold as ‘settler violence’ when in many cases it is flat out self defense. to think that palestinians in the west bank r peaceful folks just trying to get along is outright foolish.

[Eko]

54. Sure, when you destroy crops, burn houses, attack people, block routes and they defend themselves and their property

killing them is self defense.

[Eko]

53. So criticizing aipac, netanyahu or being against what is happening in Gaza is antisemitic?

[PCIntern]

16. Two things:

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I will repeat what my father told me when I was 12 years old that the hardest part about being a liberal progressive will be dealing with the antisemitism coming from the left. That was in 1965. The first real experience I had with that particular brand of antisemitism was when Israel defeated the Arab armies in 1967, and all the lefty publications that came to our house were decrying their victory, and bemoaning the loss of Pan-Arabism.

The second thing is that all these terrorist groups (a.k.a. “Freedom-fighters”)promising to “eradicate” Israel, and the Jews therein, have quite possibly learned the meaning of that word and its implications. It’s horrifying , as were the crimes perpetrated on that fateful day by terrorists at the Festival and Kibbutz. For many years Israel was forced to liberate hundreds of prisoners in order to recover one or two Israelis held captive or even to reclaim their corpses. So if that’s the proportionality in one direction, the terrorists quite possibly learned it holds in the other. Not nice, but war is not nice. Perhaps they will think twice before another act is contemplated and executed.

[mopinko]

19. we can hope.

the inversion of history disturbs me deeply.

[AZProgressive]

21. I think there is legit criticism of PACs like AIPAC

Often the top recipients of AIPAC money are Centrist Democrats that have defeated Progressives in primaries as well as Republicans. Personally I don't like that AIPAC donates to Republicans that supported the insurrection and works to defeat Democrats that I like.

Whether AIPAC is why Congress is more supportive of Israel than the US population I can't answer that question but I have seen criticism of Israel which often comes from the left labeled as antisemitic so I tend to be skeptical especially when it comes to Israel.

[edhopper]

25. Yes

But I have seen posts (not here) that claim anything bad going on from any Liberal party worldwide is because Israel is behind it.

[Samael13]

22. I feel like that's an oversimplification

Not everyone who dislikes our policy towards Israel is antisemitic. I personally don't think a done of taxpayer money should go to any other country as long as the needs of the American people aren't met

[edhopper]

24. You'll have to point out

where I said anything like that.

[mopinko]

48. u r, personally, wrong.

aid to other countries buys us more peace and security than $$ spent on war.

[Redleg]

64. Including military aid?

I think the humanitarian aid does what you claim, the record with military aid is mixed.

[Joinfortmill]

28. Yes, I've said it before and I'll say it now.

The U.S. Government is not the American people. The Israeli Government is not the Israeli people or the Jews.

[sarisataka]

30. You don't need to look elsewhere

I have seen it today.

[SamuelTheThird]

37. Yeah the Israel lobby has no malign influence whatsoever...

[mopinko]

46. compared to red, white and blue american greedheads,

no, it barely does. ‘the jews control the world’ is an absolutely ancient trope, trotted out by antisemites for generations.

[maxsolomon]

38. I have never seen "Elders of Zion" levels on DU.

I don't see it on "other Social Media" from "Leftists" either, but I don't consume a lot of "other" SM thankfully. Maybe I've successfully curated my FB algorithm to avoid it.

I've seen anti-Zionist anger over the indiscriminate tactics employed in Gaza, over decades of Settlement expansion in the West Bank, and over the current IDF-abetted Settler violence. I've seen some of that come from Jewish people I know; relatives, friends.

[LeftInTX]

58. Big influence from Party of Socialism and Liberation

and groups like Code Pink. PSL wants to destroy the Democratic Party. They are backed by Putin and Roger Stone. They have their own presidential candidates. The DNC should make a statement banning state and local parties from collaborating with them. They are the enemy. Much anti-semitism comes from them