As his eggshell ego collapses, things could get even scarier...

[pat_k]

It is hard to imagine worse than the current level of insanity, but I expect him to become even more unhinged in the coming months. His defenses against reality are collapsing. I have no idea what complete collapse could look like.

At the same time, psychological defenses and denial of reality is weakening for trumpublicans in the House and Senate. More of them may already be facing the fact that the felon is incapable of making the necessarily humiliating deal with Iran -- a deal that will paint a giant L for Loser on the forehead of a man constitutionally incapable of sucking up a defeat.

He will continue to demand that his so-called "negotiators" get a "better deal" -- one that doesn't mean recommitting to Obama's treaty, shoveling 10x the amount of money at Iran that Obama did, and an "environmental fee" (i.e., toll).

Unfortunately, more competent folk than his morons wouldn't be able to craft a way out that isn't effectively a declaration of surrender and declaration that the treaty negotiated over two years by the Obama administration, which was supported by allies -- a treaty the felon ripped to shreds -- was the best deal possible.

All the while, the global and domestic harms and chaos of the war will escalate

Utterly unsustainable.

A breaking point will be reached and more and more of those currently sticking by him will stop kidding themselves that the war will magically be resolved "any day now "

If enough wake up, they'll try get him to resign for "health reasons" or some other face-saving escape from his monumental, criminal debacle.

All bets are off at that point. He will lash out, perhaps in ways we can't imagine. It could be a very dark time as it becomes clear Trump's reign must be brought to an end.

When/if they manage to push him out and J.D. makes the deal, J.D. could be so pissed that the felon put him in that position that he releases all the Epstein files with Trump redactions removed.

Who the hell knows?

I sure don't, but these are strange times. And strange times breed unexpected turns of events.

[rampartd]

1. they will never push him out

and will pretend he is alive and healthy long after he stops breathing.

without him, they begin cannibalizing each other (seems to be finally in progress.)

[pat_k]

6. Never say never.

After a rout in the midterms, as we approach the one-year milestone of the felon's war on Iran (with the attendant and increasingly unsustainable harms) I firmly believe we could see enough of them waking up to push him out.

Sure, maybe I'm wrong, but I wouldn't bet against it.

[marble falls]

2. When pin head leaders appoint minions for staff, they pick pick people even dumber than themselves ...

... TACO certainly has. What happens in the government if TACO falls out? We get a whole new government.

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Congress is going to resolve the question for him

Both chambers will pass a War Powers resolution forcing him to withdraw troops from the region, possibly this week.

Iran knows this, so has zero motivation to make a deal.

Trump will blame congress for his utter failure, but everyone other than the cultists knows the truth.

[pat_k]

4. I hope they have enough to override a veto.

I suspect too many are still in denial -- are still hanging onto the fantasy the felon will make a deal "any minute now."

But, fingers crossed. One way or another, a vote against his insanity by people he believes are utterly under his thumb would be a blow that precipitates a meltdown of some kind.

[paulkienitz]

5. JD is gon be a complete wildcard -- we haven't seen the real JD in years, let him out and anything might happen.

[pat_k]

7. I think you are spot on on that.

[CanonRay]

26. Is there a real JD?

[redstatebluegirl]

27. He will do whatever Peter Thiel tells him to do.

[swong19104]

8. I don't want a face saving out for him

I want him totally humiliated, forced to apologize to Iran on his knees (and have to get up by himself), and loudly and publicly proclaim that he is a total loser. Nothing less than total and utter capitulation.

It’s also a lesson to all other wannabes who have ideas to following his footsteps.

[pat_k]

10. Me neither. But when/if enough recognize the only way to end the disastrous

war on Iran is to get rid of the felon, you'll see "allies" tramping to the WH to give him the option.

And if enough wake up to reality to vote to remove, the threat will be "Resign for whatever reason you want or you will be removed. There are enough of us now."

If that were to come to pass, I'd bet he would continue to delude himself that "they'd never do that" and force their hand.

And if I were a betting person, I would bet that after a rout in the mid-terms, as we come up on the one-year anniversary of his criminal war it will be clear the situation cannot be allowed to continue -- that he must go, one way or another

[KS Toronado]

16. I believe he'll do everything he can to keep the war going as long as he can.

Epstein distraction plus he's said if we were at war no elections. That could trigger a civil war.

[pat_k]

19. Perhaps.

I tend to think that he doesn't have such ulterior motives to keep the war going. I believe the war will keep going simply because the only way to end it is to suck up the loss. And he's incapable of that.

Remember the outtakes from his speech on Jan 7 2021? When he read the line "the election is over" his response was something like "I can't say that." The thing is, for once in his life he was telling the truth. Admitting defeat is literally impossible for him. He can't do it.

[Give Peace A Chance]

11. Dreams are Free

But I like the way you think.

[NNadir]

9. I'd like to believe this scenario, and it's not as far fetched as the idea of this asshole being President was in 2015.

[Dan]

12. As I stated before.... Trump will resign after the midterms in the second half of his presidency.

This will allow JD Vance to assume the role of President. This way JD Vance can run for two terms independent of completing the end of Trump's term.

The only question is what will Trump negotiate for his resignation as the glow diminishes on his golden head with the nation.

[GiqueCee]

15. Yeah, but...

... that is predicated on Trump's ego letting him make that concession. As the old saying goes, look up FAT CHANCE in your Funk & Wagnall's. He is SO weak of character that ANY admission of failure is beyond consideration for him. He'd likely kill someone for even suggesting it. At the very least, the walls of the White House would be covered in ketchup.

[pat_k]

18. Could happen. Like everyone else, I have no idea what the future holds.

I'm just speculating based on my beliefs that

1. The felon is incapable of ending the war. He is incapable of sucking up the loss.

2. As the war/stalemate continues, domestic and international harms will escalate, ultimately becoming utterly unsustainable.

3. Sooner or later, a growing number of trumpublicans in the House and Senate will "get" 1 and 2 and recognize that the only "way out" is to push trump out.

I am sceptical that Trump would voluntarily resign to give Vance a better shot. It just doesn't align with his inability to accept loss of any kind.

In fact, I doubt he would resign even under threat. If/when enough recognize the only way to end the disastrous war on Iran is to get rid of the felon, you'll see "allies" tramping to the WH to give him the option of resigning.

And if enough wake up to reality to vote to remove, the threat will be "Resign for whatever reason you want or you will be removed. There are enough of us now."

If that were to come to pass, I'd bet he would continue to delude himself that "they'd never do that" and force their hand.

And if I were a betting person, I would bet that after a rout in the mid-terms, as we come up on the one-year anniversary of his criminal war it will be clear the situation cannot be allowed to continue -- that he must go, one way or another

[Joinfortmill]

13. Very interesting, especially the part about Vance & the Epstein files

[pat_k]

20. I liked that little afterthought too!!

[GiqueCee]

14. Trump is, was, and always will be...

.. a raging psychopath. Now that he's cornered, he's capable of anything. Let me rephrase that: ANYTHING!
Keep the nuclear football out of his reach, because he WILL use it. For christ's sake, he wanted to nuke a fucking hurricane!
The man's not only an evil monster, he's a fucking idiot, so there's nothing he won't try. NOTHING.

[pat_k]

17. FWIW, I posed the question "When the defenses against reality collapse for a person with the dual diagnosis...

Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Anti-Social Personality Disorder, what can happen?" to
Gemini.

Apply whatever level of scepticism you apply to all AI, but here's the response. (Seems we've seen a lot of this already so, as many have observed, he's apparently been decompensating for a while.)

When defenses collapse in an individual with both Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) and Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD)—a combination sometimes associated with malignant narcissism or psychopathy—they lose their ability to manage their self-image and manipulate others. This psychological decompensation typically triggers extreme, volatile, and dangerous outcomes.

1. Severe Psychotic or Delusional Episodes
When their grandiosity completely fails to protect them from reality, the ego may fracture. This can lead to brief reactive psychoses or deep paranoid delusions where they externalize all blame, viewing themselves as the ultimate victim of a "persecutory" world.

2. Malignant Aggression and Retaliation
Individuals with this dual diagnosis often react to wounded pride or exposure with intense rage. Without their usual behavioral filters and manipulative facades, this can escalate into severe physical violence, stalking, harassment, or calculated attempts to ruin the lives of those they hold responsible.

3. Complete Loss of Empathy and Behavioral Restraint
The ASPD traits (lack of remorse, disregard for others) are normally kept somewhat in check by the NPD need for admiration and social status. When defenses collapse, the need for approval disappears, leaving behind a highly impulsive, predatory individual who acts purely on instinct without any moral or social constraints

4. Extreme Self-Destructive Behaviors
If they can no longer maintain their grandiose narrative or control their environment, they may turn their aggression inward. This can manifest as severe substance abuse, high-risk reckless behavior (gambling, dangerous stunts), or acute suicidal crises driven by narcissistic mortification.

5. Ultimate Social Isolation
Because their primary coping mechanism is to exploit and manipulate others, the collapse of these defenses usually results in them burning every bridge. They may alienate family, friends, and colleagues, leading to total social abandonment and destitution.

[GiqueCee]

25. Definitely sounds like...

... someone we all know, doesn't it?

[BigmanPigman]

21. He reached that point about 3 days ago.

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When he was humiliated by the performers backing out of his birthday bash AND the judge's ruling regarding his name on the Kennedy Center he started to really spiral quickly.

THIS is what I've been expecting. Now he is going to destroy the USA since he hates our country and blames everyone else for his problems.

Basically, he knows he is ill, won't get better and can't hide it along with the poll numbers dropping in his cult/base. Therefore, his agenda now is to destroy the USA and take us down with him. He is a sadistic, vengeful, greedy psychopath and we will be seeing and experiencing the destruction getting much, much worse from now on.

He LOVES to destroy things and he gets pleasure from destroying our country for all the awful things he feels we did to him to make him angry and bitter. He sees his collapse as our fault, not his own.

[pat_k]

22. I fear he has more decompensation to go.

You probably saw it, but if not,I posed the question "When the defenses against reality collapse for a person with the dual diagnosis Narcissistic Personality Disorder and Anti-Social Personality Disorder, what can happen?" to
Gemini.

The answer is on this post:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21276131

[BigmanPigman]

23. That's what is happening

Various doctors have commented on his filters being gone due to severe frontotemporal dementia. He's rapidly declining. I doubt he'll ever be suicidal. It's not in his character. He'll kill us before he kills himself. He lives for revenge and money.

[GoodRaisin]

24. He's one miserable piece of shit.

I think he’s about to lose it completely. He knows Iran is making him look stupid and he knows that he crossed the line trying to steal money from the Treasury when it didn’t work according to his scheme. He also knows his worthless life is about over anyway. I hope someone in his cabinet values their own life enough to keep him away from the nukes. He’s more dangerous now than he’s ever been.

[pat_k]

28. "He's more dangerous now than he's ever been."

I fear you are right.

But I also hold out some hope that the level of chaos and insanity he has fomented is so extreme that we've reached a sort of "breaking point." I think the 50-plus-year right-wingnut project (which has transferred more than 75 trillion from the bottom 90% to the top 1%) may be coming to an end, a victim of it's own success.

Imagine If This Moment Was Not About The Ascent of Authoritarians, But About A New Birth Of Global Freedom...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221186840

[DFW]

29. Worst case scenario

Imagine a spoiled rich kid with the emotional makeup of a spoiled five year old, pissed as hell that the other kids on the block won't play by rules that he alone sets, and, oh-by-the-way he has the codes to our nuclear arsenal.

Time to tremble, people. That's not speculating. We're there.