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Owner of California house covered in Trump signs is stomped to death (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd 20 hrs ago OP
While I Can't Condone The Attack... ProfessorGAC 20 hrs ago #1
This is disgraceful. He may have been looking for an argument, but curb-stomping is not debate. Climate Crusader 20 hrs ago #3
Were You Expecting A Debate? ProfessorGAC 20 hrs ago #6
Murder is not the answer. Why let a MAGA trigger such anger? wnylib 20 hrs ago #4
I Didn't Say It Was ProfessorGAC 20 hrs ago #5
Soryy, I did not intend to say or imply that wnylib 20 hrs ago #7
Then We Agree ProfessorGAC 19 hrs ago #13
I have sympathy for his family, that's it MustLoveBeagles 20 hrs ago #9
I think ForgedCrank 12 hrs ago #40
One wonders why the beating occurred- was it political or self defense biophile 20 hrs ago #2
It could just be a "Get off my lawn" gone wrong. haele 20 hrs ago #8
It doesn't matter if it was political sarisataka 19 hrs ago #12
Agree that's probably not self defense but If someone was trying to kill me, biophile 16 hrs ago #24
I too want to know why this happened Lifeafter70 15 hrs ago #31
Background from an non-faux source justaprogressive 20 hrs ago #10
The California Post is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in Los Angeles, California. Celerity 19 hrs ago #20
Thank you - I know I could have looked it up in the time it took for me to question the motive biophile 4 hrs ago #48
This is wrong, unacceptable and intolerable. sarisataka 19 hrs ago #11
Totally agree. sop 15 hrs ago #27
There's no evidence the Trump signs were the cause of the attack. The assailant was a veteran with PTSD highplainsdem 19 hrs ago #14
Ty for sharing, HPD SheltieLover 15 hrs ago #26
Yvw, Sheltie! highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #28
😃👍 SheltieLover 15 hrs ago #29
Thank you Lifeafter70 15 hrs ago #32
Why is someone with a history of violent behavior and mental issues out roaming the streets looking for another victim? MichMan 13 hrs ago #35
Thank you. Ms. Toad 13 hrs ago #36
That took a sharp turn. This tells us more Cha 10 hrs ago #46
Thank you for that extra information biophile 4 hrs ago #49
The killer was another wingnut obamanut2012 19 hrs ago #15
He 'Past' Away DET 19 hrs ago #16
Message auto-removed Name removed 19 hrs ago #17
LG Emile 19 hrs ago #19
Fifth time today. Why am I riffing on Dan hicks & His Hot Licks? Brother Buzz 19 hrs ago #22
LOL, likes being spanked. Emile 19 hrs ago #23
Violence is never the answer. n/t flvegan 19 hrs ago #18
Maga on maga violence Boo1 19 hrs ago #21
MAGA on MAGA violence... pecosbob 16 hrs ago #25
"This is disgraceful." J_William_Ryan 15 hrs ago #30
Very sad indeed... buzzycrumbhunger 15 hrs ago #33
Hate to see political violence. nt oasis 15 hrs ago #34
I don't think it was political FHRRK1 12 hrs ago #41
Where's an HOA when you need one? LeftInTX 13 hrs ago #37
Maybe that *was* the HOA ... they'd have as much reason as anybody. eppur_se_muova 12 hrs ago #38
The Republican alleged-murderer is probably glad right about now that... LudwigPastorius 12 hrs ago #39
Lawn Rage. ColoringFool 12 hrs ago #42
Butler's wife, Breana, had been separated from him for two years due to his violent nature. red dog 1 11 hrs ago #43
That's awful! And, jsut gives fuel for Cha 11 hrs ago #44
Yikes! Not good! electric_blue68 10 hrs ago #45
P.S. I just read upthread that the suspect is Cha 10 hrs ago #47
Yeah, i saw that. electric_blue68 1 min ago #50

ProfessorGAC

(77,409 posts)
1. While I Can't Condone The Attack...
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:29 PM
20 hrs ago

...I can't find much sympathy either.
I don't believe his neighbor about the victim's willingness to let other have their opinions.
The displays were ostentatious & provocative and the guy was looking for an argument in a grand fashion. Keep shoving his opinion in others' face and he was bound to get his argument.
Unfortunately, he found an argument with a crazy and it got him killed.
I guess I sympathize with the wife. She certainly didn't deserve widowhood like this.
But, I honestly don't care about the guy, undeserved death notwithstanding.

Climate Crusader

(174 posts)
3. This is disgraceful. He may have been looking for an argument, but curb-stomping is not debate.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:33 PM
20 hrs ago

Absolutely no room for this crap in the US that I hope Democrats are working to shape.

ProfessorGAC

(77,409 posts)
6. Were You Expecting A Debate?
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:39 PM
20 hrs ago

I said the killer was crazy to have acted like this.
I never said I approved.
In fact my post title says the exact opposite.

ProfessorGAC

(77,409 posts)
5. I Didn't Say It Was
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:38 PM
20 hrs ago

I think the attacker is out of his mind & a murderer.
Have no idea how you got that I promote violence.
I just don't care about this particular guy.

wnylib

(26,598 posts)
7. Soryy, I did not intend to say or imply that
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:42 PM
20 hrs ago

you condoned the murder. I was only expressing how I feel about it.

ProfessorGAC

(77,409 posts)
13. Then We Agree
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:02 PM
19 hrs ago

Of course, there is the assumption that the attack was politically motivated.
It may not have been but the attacker still killed a guy in a fight, including aggravating circumstances.
One can't head stomp someone unless they are already down & defenseless.
The attacker is in big, big trouble.

ForgedCrank

(3,125 posts)
40. I think
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:30 AM
12 hrs ago

the question would be, why would someone not have sympathy for a murder victim? He was living his own life and did nothing to provoke such levels of violence. Frankly, I have sympathy for anyone in the victims case. Who they voted for or what kind of tacky garbage they decorate their property with is not the switch that flips my sympathy on or off, so I have to ask the question.

biophile

(1,610 posts)
2. One wonders why the beating occurred- was it political or self defense
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:33 PM
20 hrs ago

I don’t condone political violence- (even though I have been very tempted to do it myself, my better angels have prevented action, so far) - but we don’t know for sure from this if the victim was attacked for his Drumpf support or some other reason or if he started the fight. This was Fux News so you can assume half of the story is missing and the other half misleading.

haele

(15,645 posts)
8. It could just be a "Get off my lawn" gone wrong.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:45 PM
20 hrs ago

A guy like that doesn't know how to back down, and if he got in the face of someone who had made an offhand negative comment or he thought "didn't belong" and that person was already pissed or had an aggressive response reaction, a fight would not be unlikely.

Curb-stomping is not an unheard of reaction by bullies or gang members who grew up like Kegsbreath or the Proud Boys - where beating the crap out of anyone who offended you is the mark or a privilege of "virile Manhood".

On edit, it's not that I'm making an excuse, but this isn't the first time this sort of crime has occured.
The only reason this is making the news is because the guy was a local controversial personality.
When a drunk uncle decides to do a beat down on an uppity YA nephew who "disrespected" him at a block party and curb stomped the young man into the hospital in a coma with a severe concussion, cracked shoulders and upper back spine damage, it doesn't make the news.

sarisataka

(22,874 posts)
12. It doesn't matter if it was political
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:00 PM
19 hrs ago

And if he was stomped on the head it was not self-defense.

It was murder, regardless of the reporting source.

biophile

(1,610 posts)
24. Agree that's probably not self defense but If someone was trying to kill me,
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 08:33 PM
16 hrs ago

I would damn sure be certain they weren’t getting up to finish the job.

Celerity

(55,075 posts)
20. The California Post is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in Los Angeles, California.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:41 PM
19 hrs ago

It serves as the California counterpart to the New York Post, and is owned by News Corp.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Post

News Corporation, referred to as "News Corp," was started in 1980 in Australia. It was founded by Rupert Murdoch, who led the company in its publishing, in both news and books, as well as television. These were all published in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia, allowing the new and growing company to gain popularity worldwide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corp

biophile

(1,610 posts)
48. Thank you - I know I could have looked it up in the time it took for me to question the motive
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:29 AM
4 hrs ago

We may not know for a long time, if ever, what precipitated this event. Now two lives are forever changed.

sarisataka

(22,874 posts)
11. This is wrong, unacceptable and intolerable.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 04:57 PM
19 hrs ago

That's it.
No excuses, politics or qualifications.

Murder cannot be justified.

highplainsdem

(63,324 posts)
14. There's no evidence the Trump signs were the cause of the attack. The assailant was a veteran with PTSD
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:07 PM
19 hrs ago

who was most recently registered to vote as a Republican.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2026/05/28/prior-allegations-of-violence-ptsd-cited-in-court-docs-against-suspect-in-trump-house-assault/

A 32-year-old man accused of assaulting the owner of the “Trump House” in Escondido was described in court documents as a veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder with a history of violent, threatening behavior, according to a petition filed by his estranged wife last year in San Diego Superior Court.

-snip-

According to documents filed in family court last year, Butler’s wife said that Butler had been the subject of multiple domestic violence calls, welfare checks by police and various mental health cases between February 2020 and February 2025. Those alleged incidents do not appear to have resulted in any criminal charges in San Diego County, according to a search of court records.

According to military records reviewed by the Union-Tribune, Butler left the Navy as a surface warfare specialist — with multiple achievement and good conduct medals — in 2023 after serving 12 years. In September 2020, Butler and his wife purchased a home on Magnolia Avenue, a few blocks from Sheron’s house, according to property records.

Butler registered as a Republican in April 2025 and voted in the Republican primary in 2024, according to county voter registration records. In the 2020 presidential primary, he voted as no party preference.

-snip-

MichMan

(17,463 posts)
35. Why is someone with a history of violent behavior and mental issues out roaming the streets looking for another victim?
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 11:18 PM
13 hrs ago
According to documents filed in family court last year, Butler’s wife said that Butler had been the subject of multiple domestic violence calls, welfare checks by police and various mental health cases between February 2020 and February 2025. Those alleged incidents do not appear to have resulted in any criminal charges in San Diego County, according to a search of court records.



Ms. Toad

(38,869 posts)
36. Thank you.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 11:24 PM
13 hrs ago

I wondered, since they never directly mentioned a motive - or the political party of the attacker. But they sure implied it was politically motivated.

biophile

(1,610 posts)
49. Thank you for that extra information
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:32 AM
4 hrs ago

Like gun shooting incidents, poor mental health is frequently a root cause.

DET

(2,622 posts)
16. He 'Past' Away
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:24 PM
19 hrs ago

Not the brightest bulbs in that neighborhood. The attack was probably unjustified, but people are getting pushed to their limit and have had it with ignorant obnoxious MAGAts. Something like this was bound to happen sooner or later.

Response to DET (Reply #16)

Boo1

(513 posts)
21. Maga on maga violence
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 05:44 PM
19 hrs ago

I have a limited bandwidth of give a fucks and one maga loon stomping out another maga loon doesn't pass the bar.

J_William_Ryan

(3,611 posts)
30. "This is disgraceful."
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 09:02 PM
15 hrs ago

True.

Just as disgraceful is that the reprehensible right will run this into the ground with lies about ‘the left’ being ‘violent.’

FHRRK1

(162 posts)
41. I don't think it was political
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:44 AM
12 hrs ago

seems to be a neighborhood beef with a 32 year old suffering from PTSD.

eppur_se_muova

(42,634 posts)
38. Maybe that *was* the HOA ... they'd have as much reason as anybody.
Mon Jun 1, 2026, 11:53 PM
12 hrs ago

Can't imagine what that does to property values.

LudwigPastorius

(15,103 posts)
39. The Republican alleged-murderer is probably glad right about now that...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:14 AM
12 hrs ago

he lives in a "librul" state without the death penalty.

red dog 1

(33,562 posts)
43. Butler's wife, Breana, had been separated from him for two years due to his violent nature.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:13 AM
11 hrs ago

Having PTSD is no excuse to punch a 69-year-old man in the face and then kick him in the head twice when he's on the ground.

I hope he's charged with either 2nd degree Murder, or Manslaughter.

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