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OAITW r.2.0

(32,797 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 11:52 PM Tuesday

Why I never worried about Biden's health.

He had a competent and working Federal Government and serious Cabinet choices.

The clown show Trump has assembled would put P.T. Barnum to shame.

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Why I never worried about Biden's health. (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday OP
Kamala.... n/t Chemical Bill Wednesday #1
Hillary/Harris 2028. OAITW r.2.0 Wednesday #2
That's a good way to get another Republican president iemanja Wednesday #4
If you read The Conyers Report... Chemical Bill Wednesday #7
And what would their campaign slogan be, "The third time's the charm"? Rob H. 18 hrs ago #15
Also that. nt eppur_se_muova Wednesday #5
He listened to experts, he knew how to delegate, and he had a VP ready to step in Warpy Wednesday #3
I didn't either. LisaL Wednesday #6
Stage IV cancer is worth worrying about mr715 Wednesday #8
Not So Fast DET Wednesday #10
But the cancer was there are was real. mr715 Yesterday #11
Yes, But DET Yesterday #13
I was under the impression that any cancer can affect mental acuity mr715 18 hrs ago #14
Beyond My Pay Grade DET 15 hrs ago #17
Nailed it, DET OAITW r.2.0 Yesterday #12
Plus... Chemical Bill Wednesday #9
I'm sorry but what good did it do? mr715 17 hrs ago #16
I was explaining why I wasn't worried about President Biden. Chemical Bill 14 hrs ago #18
I understand, but "performing well" is poorly defined. mr715 12 hrs ago #19
Have you read The Conyers Report? n/t Chemical Bill 11 hrs ago #21
No mr715 11 hrs ago #22
Please read it before you blame any Democrat. Chemical Bill 11 hrs ago #23
Plus Mad_Machine76 12 hrs ago #20

iemanja

(57,786 posts)
4. That's a good way to get another Republican president
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 02:44 AM
Wednesday

Voters don’t want to constantly look to the past. We need to move the country forward.

While you may not have worried about Biden’s health, his wife does. She just said she didn’t think he could have managed a second term. He does have late stage cancer.

Your point about his having competent cabinet choices is, however, sound.

Chemical Bill

(3,227 posts)
7. If you read The Conyers Report...
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:12 PM
Wednesday

you recognized all of the ways Republicans cheated to win in '16 and '24.

Rob H.

(5,963 posts)
15. And what would their campaign slogan be, "The third time's the charm"?
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 01:26 PM
18 hrs ago

Running them again individually would be inviting disaster, much less having them on the same ticket.

Warpy

(114,735 posts)
3. He listened to experts, he knew how to delegate, and he had a VP ready to step in
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 02:22 AM
Wednesday

if his health had significantly worsened, the VP either taking on part of the workload or taking over completely via a peceful and lawful transfer of power.

That's why I was annoyed beyond belief when the fools at the top pushed Biden out at the last minuute, leaving Harris too little time to campaign. I didn't expect Biden's health to hold up for another 4 years but that isn't a problem. It's why we have Vice Presidents.

LisaL

(47,701 posts)
6. I didn't either.
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 10:28 AM
Wednesday

There was a chance he would not be able to finish his second term. But we would have had a competent replacement, so I had no worries.

mr715

(4,456 posts)
8. Stage IV cancer is worth worrying about
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:14 PM
Wednesday

Yes, he had advisors and competent ministers...

But part of why he was not winning that election was because he was perceived as ill, while Trump was not. They gave Trump a pass.

Doesn't change the Stage IV cancer.

DET

(2,634 posts)
10. Not So Fast
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:47 PM
Wednesday

Biden was not diagnosed with prostate cancer until May 2025, long after the election. That was not a factor in the election. The concern at the time was Biden’s mental acuity after the disastrous debate (ironic, given Trump’s obvious longstanding mental health issues). Biden may have been perceived as physically ill at the time of the election, but that was largely a creation of the biased media.

mr715

(4,456 posts)
11. But the cancer was there are was real.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 12:06 AM
Yesterday

Rapidly growing cancer can easily influence mental state.

DET

(2,634 posts)
13. Yes, But
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 12:36 AM
Yesterday

The public was not aware of Biden’s illness. Even Biden was not aware of his illness. And prostate cancer - even metastatic prostate cancer - does not affect one’s mental state - unless it progresses to the brain or some other vital organ, which it usually doesn’t until the end.

Biden’s cancer had progressed to the bone, which is typical of stage four PC. That can certainly be painful, but it doesn’t generally affect mental acuity. Ironically, the treatment for stage four PC (essentially, chemical castration through various drugs) can affect mental health. My husband kept complaining of ‘brain fog’ during treatment. We recently found out that he has a high level of tau in his blood. I’m convinced that the relatively recently discovered miraculous life saving drugs are the cause.

mr715

(4,456 posts)
14. I was under the impression that any cancer can affect mental acuity
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 01:15 PM
18 hrs ago

Or rather there are anecdotal reports of that.

The mechanism being the build up of various metabolic toxins in the blood and less glucose getting to the brain because it is being consumed by the cancer.

DET

(2,634 posts)
17. Beyond My Pay Grade
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 04:28 PM
15 hrs ago

You could well be right. I can only speak to my layperson understanding of prostate cancer based on personal research and anecdotal reports from knowledgable PC forums.

Chemical Bill

(3,227 posts)
9. Plus...
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:17 PM
Wednesday

he ate McCarthy's lunch in budget negotiations, and then ate Johnson's lunch on the debt ceiling. Corporate media forgot to mention that.

Chemical Bill

(3,227 posts)
18. I was explaining why I wasn't worried about President Biden.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 05:00 PM
14 hrs ago

President Biden was performing well even after the election. As I said, it's funny how corporate media forgot to mention that.

Yes, we are fighting an uphill battle against TSF, the ultra-rich tech bros, the ultra-right wingers like Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society, and the corporate media. Yes, it hurts.

mr715

(4,456 posts)
19. I understand, but "performing well" is poorly defined.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:02 PM
12 hrs ago

He was losing reelection based on polling. He was running a lethargic campaign. And the debate.

In this particular case, performance is entirely outcome driven for me. He did not succeed at stopping Trump, and therefore was not performing well.

Mad_Machine76

(25,053 posts)
20. Plus
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:04 PM
12 hrs ago

We knew he had a similarly competent VPOTUS who could easily step in and take over if she had to (which is why we have VPOTUS).

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