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nitpicked

(2,009 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 05:36 AM 5 hrs ago

Has the U.S. "Already Lost" the War in Iran? Amanpour and Company



Hopes for a diplomatic resolution to the war in Iran have stalled after tensions in the Gulf flared once again early Wednesday morning. Iranian strikes on Kuwait caused widespread damage, and an attack that hit Kuwait's airport killed one person and wounded more than 60. Meanwhile the U.S. military carried out its own strikes near the Strait of Hormuz. In a new piece for The Atlantic, foreign policy scholar Robert Kagan argues that Iran's leverage in the Strait leaves the U.S. with few options. Kagan joins Walter Isaacson to explain why.
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Has the U.S. "Already Lost" the War in Iran? Amanpour and Company (Original Post) nitpicked 5 hrs ago OP
Trump is now bored with the war/not-a-war and doesn't care. Norrrm 4 hrs ago #1
He will care if Hormuz is still closed on the 4th of July gab13by13 3 hrs ago #3
Yes. Ray Bruns 4 hrs ago #2
Let's see, gab13by13 3 hrs ago #4
The important people have already won. Trump. Congress. Pentagon. The stock market. Autumn 3 hrs ago #5
Trump: "I don't think about Americans' financial situation. Not even a little bit." Norrrm 40 min ago #6

Norrrm

(5,778 posts)
1. Trump is now bored with the war/not-a-war and doesn't care.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 06:23 AM
4 hrs ago

Mr. Trump, 2013: “Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly — not skilled!”

gab13by13

(32,908 posts)
3. He will care if Hormuz is still closed on the 4th of July
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:27 AM
3 hrs ago

and gasoline goes to $6/gal. The idea that he is bored is a right wing talking point.

Krasnov even lied about reading the riot act to Bibi, that's a flat out lie. Krasnov is trying to find someone to blame for his disastrous war.

Bibi used Krasnov for cover to get what he wants, more land for Israel.

gab13by13

(32,908 posts)
4. Let's see,
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:30 AM
3 hrs ago

Reports are that 300 ships have signed up to pay the toll through Hormuz. Krasnov made Iran relevant in the world and made the US irrelevant. No deal on enriching uranium. A more radical regime now in charge of Iran.

Krasnov absolutely lost his war.

Autumn

(49,032 posts)
5. The important people have already won. Trump. Congress. Pentagon. The stock market.
Thu Jun 4, 2026, 07:37 AM
3 hrs ago

Oil executives. Wealthy investors. Nothing and no one else really matters.

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