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Amaryllis

(11,621 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:06 PM Jun 21

I remember reading a few months back that the Iranians had said Trump needs to quit sending his real estate golf buddies

who know nothing about the subject and and send some people who know what they are talking about to negotiate. I don't remember where i read it, but I do remember clearly "real estate golf buddies." It occurred to me that sending people who are so obviously highly inept is a major insult to the Iranians and would be perceived as highly disrespectful, as it was.
Contrast with Obama....

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I remember reading a few months back that the Iranians had said Trump needs to quit sending his real estate golf buddies (Original Post) Amaryllis Jun 21 OP
I said before, they send PHDs with years of experience, we send clowns. dem4decades Jun 21 #1
I think it's because the deal is just a prop for Trumpco. ananda Jun 21 #6
you're giving them too much credit RockCreek Jun 21 #20
"... they get off on war and killing" Seinan Sensei Jun 21 #23
It'd be great if any of the fucking MSM would harp on the incompetence of those RockRaven Jun 21 #2
We are also sending Jewish men to negotiate with fundamentalist Muslims. Midnight Writer Jun 21 #3
What exactly is the son in laws post? malaise Jun 21 #5
Special Peace Envoy bsiebs Jun 21 #21
More like ...ahem... malaise Jun 21 #22
It's not just the Iranians who object to being in the same room as Kushner....I think the Albanians probably feel the Amaryllis Jun 21 #10
Another crime family orthoclad Jun 21 #15
Is it his Judaism or his Zionism? orthoclad Jun 21 #16
Neither. It's his sense of entitlement. Amaryllis Jun 21 #24
Midnight mentioned his Jewishness offending orthoclad Jun 21 #25
And Albania. Amaryllis Jun 22 #27
Leaving their "leavings" all over the world orthoclad Jun 22 #28
Well JD Vance is handling the negotiations now, and he was there two weeks ago also FakeNoose Jun 21 #19
There was a report of Iranian negotiator frustration over having to repeatedly explain basic processes... pat_k Jun 21 #4
I remember that as well and I think that was where I read the real estate golf buddies comment. I remember the Amaryllis Jun 21 #9
Moronic stand-ins for Bibi orthoclad Jun 21 #17
It could well be . . . AverageOldGuy Jun 21 #7
Well, if they're crooks, maybe orthoclad Jun 21 #18
"people who know what they are talking about" were fired for not being MAGA enough IronLionZion Jun 21 #8
I am just being realistic when I say that sending in two Jewish men OGBuzz Jun 21 #11
Trump really believed it's nothing more than a real estate deal. Iggo Jun 21 #12
He could send the best negotiators in the history of the world, and it's not going to open the strait if Israel doesn't Fil1957 Jun 21 #13
Trump is an idiot PJMcK Jun 21 #14
You said it perfectly PJMcK. Diamond_Dog Jun 21 #26

ananda

(35,992 posts)
6. I think it's because the deal is just a prop for Trumpco.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:47 PM
Jun 21

All they are doing is an attempt to create an excuse
to stay in power.

Since they get off on war and killing, it's a win win
for them, even if it means lose lose on the negotiation'
front.

RockCreek

(1,683 posts)
20. you're giving them too much credit
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 06:01 PM
Jun 21

All that. And they don't see any problem with Kushner et al.

RockRaven

(20,207 posts)
2. It'd be great if any of the fucking MSM would harp on the incompetence of those
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:31 PM
Jun 21

delegated to the task. It is acknowledged at times, but insufficiently in conjunction with the recurrent (and predictable for that reason) failures.

Midnight Writer

(26,109 posts)
3. We are also sending Jewish men to negotiate with fundamentalist Muslims.
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:31 PM
Jun 21

It has been reported that Iranian negotiators object to being in the same room with Jared.

Add in the threats and the willy-nilly demands of our Commander-in-Chief.

You couldn't fuck this up worse if you tried.

Amaryllis

(11,621 posts)
10. It's not just the Iranians who object to being in the same room as Kushner....I think the Albanians probably feel the
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 04:56 PM
Jun 21

same.

orthoclad

(5,411 posts)
25. Midnight mentioned his Jewishness offending
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 09:50 PM
Jun 21

Muslim fundies. But rather than thinking his religious persuaion (if he actually has any), I think his Zionism and closeness with Bibi would be offensive to them.

But yes, his sense of entitlement is universally offensive. Just another rich creep from a crime family, a crooked nepo baby. His desire for waterfront real estate in Gaza....

orthoclad

(5,411 posts)
28. Leaving their "leavings" all over the world
Mon Jun 22, 2026, 11:00 AM
Jun 22

Though they seem to favor the Med. I wonder if this has anything to do with climate refugia for the warlords. New Zealand, Hawaii, the Med.

FakeNoose

(43,480 posts)
19. Well JD Vance is handling the negotiations now, and he was there two weeks ago also
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:42 PM
Jun 21

I think Jared was shown the door, or maybe he decided he wasn't the right guy to handle it, I don't know.

pat_k

(14,778 posts)
4. There was a report of Iranian negotiator frustration over having to repeatedly explain basic processes...
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 03:36 PM
Jun 21

...of enrichment and the differences between enriching to medical grade and weapons grade and the fact that Witkoff and Kushner were seemingly unaware that the JCPOA allowed enriching to 20% (medical grade) for good reason. And were also seemingly oblivious to other technical basics critical to any negotiation.

I think it was an Al Jazeera report, but am not sure. It was around the same time I heard the "golf buddies" comment reported.

Amaryllis

(11,621 posts)
9. I remember that as well and I think that was where I read the real estate golf buddies comment. I remember the
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 04:53 PM
Jun 21

frustration over the American negotiators not understanding basics. And it probably was Al Jazeera where I read it. Not the kind of thing you'd expect from American media.

orthoclad

(5,411 posts)
17. Moronic stand-ins for Bibi
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:30 PM
Jun 21

No official standing with US govt, unless you count Ivanka as govt.

Country club locker room talk vs physicists. No experience required.

orthoclad

(5,411 posts)
18. Well, if they're crooks, maybe
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:32 PM
Jun 21

Even crime takes SOME expertise, besides hiring Capone-class accountants.

OGBuzz

(1,056 posts)
11. I am just being realistic when I say that sending in two Jewish men
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:03 PM
Jun 21

to negotiate with Iran, Israel's mortal enemy, was probably not the smartest idea. Never mind that Netanyahu once slept in Jared Kuschner's childhood bedroom in the 90's when he visited the U.S.

Fil1957

(1,006 posts)
13. He could send the best negotiators in the history of the world, and it's not going to open the strait if Israel doesn't
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:21 PM
Jun 21

stop bombing Lebanon.

The only way to get Israel to stop is to threaten to cut off U.S. arms shipments, and to follow through on that threat if they keep bombing.

PJMcK

(25,282 posts)
14. Trump is an idiot
Sun Jun 21, 2026, 05:23 PM
Jun 21

He knows nothing of negotiating strategy, mideast history & politics, science & technology nor geography. His flunkies are equally incompetent, incurious and ignorant. They do not know anything about the issues. How could they since they don't have the background and knowledge required for such complex discussions?

Sending two Jews to "negotiate" with Muslims demonstrates rudeness, religious ignorance and unserious intentions. The Iranians are justified in their disgust with Trump & Co.

Trump lost his war so it's pretty rich that he is trying to set terms. Pathetic.

Trump is a loser.

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