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riversedge

(82,560 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:04 AM Jun 23

If the pool lining had been cut with a knife, the clean cut would be evidence. And it be be different

from a tear, as the cut would be clean and or sharp IMHO.
But no one is talking about preserving this evidence--not Trump nor his pals.
Instead Trump just continues to claim the pool lining cut cut-slashed and the media keeps reporting it.





Christopher Webb‬
‪@cwebbonline.com‬
· 9h
TRUMP THEN: If you had a knife, you can't even cut the Reflecting Pool.

TRUMP NOW: We have vandalism… I think 290, 300 foot slit right through, and probably a box cutter, or a knife of some kind.

TRUMP THEN: If you had a knife, you can't even cut the Reflecting Pool.

TRUMP NOW: We have vandalism… I think 290, 300 foot slit right through, and probably a box cutter, or a knife of some kind.

Christopher Webb (@cwebbonline.com) 2026-06-23T00:50:32.254Z







BrooklynDad_Defiant!☮️
@mmpadellan
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15h
trump, May 4th: "If you had a knife, you can't cut it"

trump now: SOMEBODY CUT IT WITH A KNIFE!

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If the pool lining had been cut with a knife, the clean cut would be evidence. And it be be different (Original Post) riversedge Jun 23 OP
the story is fucking ridiculous Skittles Jun 23 #1
"I doubt even the cult is buying it" Ray Bruns Jun 23 #18
Their brains have a semi-permeable membrane that lets trumpshit flow inward erronis Jun 23 #39
It couldn't possibly be the wrong thing at the wrong place by the wrong people the wrong way at the wrong time. Hugin Jun 23 #2
"An NFL football field measures 120 yards long by 53⅓ yards wide (360 ft 160 ft), "...so the Trump riversedge Jun 23 #3
Jewish space lasers. It seems really obvious. Ol Janx Spirit Jun 23 #20
Despicable liar. Joinfortmill Jun 23 #4
The coating did not properly bond to the surface of the cement. tetedur Jun 23 #5
Everyday somewhere pools are vandalized with knives. gordianot Jun 23 #6
Thoughts and prayers Just Jerome Jun 23 #8
When & who invented paint you can cut with a knife? KS Toronado Jun 23 #14
Paint remover makers should protest paint you can cut is bad for buisness. gordianot Jun 23 #24
If a $14 million pool makeover could be so poorly executed Raven123 Jun 23 #7
not to mention a $50 billion dollar war and the subsequent peace negotiations LymphocyteLover Jun 23 #11
he's a dumb, delusional, demented liar... as always... but now even worse LymphocyteLover Jun 23 #9
It is paint Woodwizard Jun 23 #10
Trumps cutting claim is on par with his pet eating claim. yellowcanine Jun 23 #12
This will be less obvious to the lemmings and MadameButterfly Jun 23 #25
A presidential motorcade of heavy vehicles mtairyguy Jun 23 #13
Wow. I just looked that up. People were worried before it happened MadameButterfly Jun 23 #33
It has been all over. drray23 Jun 23 #44
Since our media is now questioning how mtairyguy Jun 23 #45
True. They never seem to go the next logical step.nt. drray23 Jun 23 #52
The presidential limo 'the beast' weighs 20,000 lbs. pecosbob Jun 23 #58
The Epstein Deflecting Pool. twodogsbarking Jun 23 #15
Thread Winner or DUzy or something - that's brilliant! 3catwoman3 Jun 23 #41
Tanks twodogsbarking Jun 23 #42
As opposed to the Jan 6 videos showing typical tourist behavior IronLionZion Jun 23 #16
Ninjas controlling Jewish space lasers.... Ol Janx Spirit Jun 23 #22
When they drain the pool.. Escape Jun 23 #17
Stop trying to rationalize the demented ramblings of a dementia ridden person Ray Bruns Jun 23 #19
They used a material that is designed for truck bed liners, gab13by13 Jun 23 #21
Wasn't It A Painted On Lining? ProfessorGAC Jun 23 #23
The repairs to the actual pool didn't have time to cure questionseverything Jun 23 #53
Consistent With My Point ProfessorGAC Jun 23 #55
We are agreeing, I am just awkward in my phrasing questionseverything Jun 23 #56
That Makes Sense ProfessorGAC Jun 23 #57
All ofyou stop. There is no explanation except HE'S NUTS. Every comment about the pool thing should be Srkdqltr Jun 23 #26
Actually, since Swift-Boating, nothing can be ignored no matter how crazy MadameButterfly Jun 23 #35
It came apart at a seam. Seams are straight. Uggggggggggg boston bean Jun 23 #27
I was going to say something similar Ms. Toad Jun 23 #30
Why are there seams? MadameButterfly Jun 23 #36
I think the seam is in the base the paint sits on, Ms. Toad Jun 23 #38
That's wouldn't cause the paint to lift on those seams Melon Jun 23 #47
I'm not saying it did. Ms. Toad Jun 23 #49
They spray it on in sections. that is obvious in pics of the construction of it. boston bean Jun 23 #50
This doesn't really work. The coating was rolled Melon Jun 23 #46
There are video surveillance cameras all over the National Mall and if somebody cut the lining there ... Botany Jun 23 #28
My understanding is the pool had problems, Obama spent millions trying to repair MadameButterfly Jun 23 #37
Without a doubt a structure the size and complexity of that reflecting pool would always need ... Botany Jun 23 #43
Reichstag Fire vibes. John1956PA Jun 23 #29
I have seen a lot of blue painted pools PurgedVoter Jun 23 #31
The planet is burning and we're talking about a pool liner. This, I think, is the true legacy... NNadir Jun 23 #32
I don't know why we are even discussing this LisaL Jun 23 #34
Dead man talking... Godot51 Jun 23 #40
He's blaming others for his fuck ups MustLoveBeagles Jun 23 #48
He's entirely full of fecal matter. spanone Jun 23 #51
He's a self-inflicted quicksand of contradictions if ever I saw one nt Torchlight Jun 23 #54
If it were a proper paint job Mysterian Jun 23 #59

erronis

(25,305 posts)
39. Their brains have a semi-permeable membrane that lets trumpshit flow inward
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:02 AM
Jun 23

and reason escape.

Hugin

(38,156 posts)
2. It couldn't possibly be the wrong thing at the wrong place by the wrong people the wrong way at the wrong time.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:17 AM
Jun 23

Perish the thought.



Pathetic.

riversedge

(82,560 posts)
3. "An NFL football field measures 120 yards long by 53⅓ yards wide (360 ft 160 ft), "...so the Trump
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:21 AM
Jun 23

claim that there was a about a 300 foot long CUT in the pool lining would mean the length/size of the supposed CUT with a knife would be a little less than the Length of a football field.
This would take a long time to do and the pool is under observation by a camera from what I have read.

I was just trying to imagine how big this supposed cut was.







https://coversports.com/resources/field-guides/professional-football-field-dimensions-guide

Diagram illustrating official NFL football field dimensions, including total field length, width, end zones, hash marks, and yard line measurements used in the NFL

An NFL football field measures 120 yards long by 53⅓ yards wide (360 ft × 160 ft), with two 10-yard end zones and hash marks spaced 18 feet 6 inches apart. Total playing area is 57,600 square feet.

Getting the dimensions right on a professional football field makes a big difference. Accurate measurements help ensure the field is safe, meets league standards, and supports smooth game-day operations. From field width to hash mark spacing, every detail affects how the game plays and how the field is maintained. This guide covers all the standard field specifications and offers practical tips for selecting field covers, sideline tarps, and goalpost padding sized for regulation NFL fields.

Shop Football Field Equipment
Standard Professional Football Field Dimensions
Overall NFL Playing Surface

Football field length: 100 yards (300 ft) between goal lines.
Football field width: 53⅓ yards (160 ft) sideline-to-sideline.
Add two 10-yard end zones for a 120-yard (360 ft) total footprint—commonly cited as 360 ft × 160 ft.

tetedur

(1,431 posts)
5. The coating did not properly bond to the surface of the cement.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:46 AM
Jun 23

That is why it is separating in jagged sheets. Everything out of his mouth is a lie.

gordianot

(15,821 posts)
6. Everyday somewhere pools are vandalized with knives.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:55 AM
Jun 23

There should be specific penalties for this heinous crime

Raven123

(8,107 posts)
7. If a $14 million pool makeover could be so poorly executed
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:58 AM
Jun 23

Just think of what could happen to a $300 (or 400, or 500 or whatever the latest is) ballroom and that grotesque arch.

Incompetence on steroids

yellowcanine

(36,919 posts)
12. Trumps cutting claim is on par with his pet eating claim.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 07:09 AM
Jun 23

Which is to say, it is stuff and nonsense, as my grandma would say.

MadameButterfly

(4,388 posts)
25. This will be less obvious to the lemmings and
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:16 AM
Jun 23

some of them fell for the pet scam.

Seriously, someone not under Trump needs to document the damage so innocent people aren't prosecuted and the people who botched the job are held liable.

mtairyguy

(66 posts)
13. A presidential motorcade of heavy vehicles
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 07:10 AM
Jun 23

…was driven across the newly resurfaced reflecting pool. Why is this fact not front and center in any discussion of damage to the pool?

MadameButterfly

(4,388 posts)
33. Wow. I just looked that up. People were worried before it happened
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:41 AM
Jun 23

that the motorcade might compromise the surface and the mechanics of the reflecting pool. Duh.

I shouldn't have had to wade deep into DU to find this out. Seriously, we are hearing about Trump's knife theory, they are arresting people, and no coverage of this?

mtairyguy

(66 posts)
45. Since our media is now questioning how
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:47 PM
Jun 23

…the surface began to crack and peel, one would think they would question whether the motorcade was the cause. Repotting that the motorcade happened then without mentioning it after the damage became apparent is not fully informative.

IronLionZion

(51,766 posts)
16. As opposed to the Jan 6 videos showing typical tourist behavior
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 07:33 AM
Jun 23


It would be impressive to do that much underwater cutting without being noticed. Must be ninjas.

Escape

(590 posts)
17. When they drain the pool..
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 07:39 AM
Jun 23

they will find some kind of cutters and some sliced material and whatever else they can "drop" for false evidence.

They may have to build an enormous tarp over the whole thing while it's being "investigated".

gab13by13

(33,222 posts)
21. They used a material that is designed for truck bed liners,
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:02 AM
Jun 23

The material is designed for steel not for concrete of marble or whatever the reflecting pool is made of.

Fucking idiot did a no bid contract so he could get a piece of the 15 million dollars. Now he will get a piece of whatever it costs to try to fix it.

ProfessorGAC

(77,835 posts)
23. Wasn't It A Painted On Lining?
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:07 AM
Jun 23

Why would cutting paint make it come off in sheets?
Unless, of course, it was applied poorly & the added water before it was cured.
In which case, cutting it had nothing to do with it.

questionseverything

(12,255 posts)
53. The repairs to the actual pool didn't have time to cure
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 03:16 PM
Jun 23

Then they drove on the liner and filled it with water before it had time to set

I saw an interview with a “pool guy “, he thought a six month time frame might of worked but of course it was given barely six days

ProfessorGAC

(77,835 posts)
55. Consistent With My Point
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 03:28 PM
Jun 23

If it had been done correctly, even someone cutting it (which I don't believe) would cause it to spall in chunk.
I actually think it had time to cure, though.
The chemistry suggests 90% curing in about 4 hours; 99% plus in 24 hours.
The kinetic rate is fairly high for an in situ reaction with no mixing to enhance mass transfer.
My guess is that it would be 5-10% cured by the time an area is fully coated by roller.
I know a guy that had that done on his garage floor. They told him to wait 6 hours before parking in there.
That's consistent with what I can estimate as a kinetic rate.
I think it more likely that the surface prep was botched by The Failure's buddy.

questionseverything

(12,255 posts)
56. We are agreeing, I am just awkward in my phrasing
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 04:01 PM
Jun 23

The problem or at least one problem was in the original pool’s concrete being patched and not left time to set

ProfessorGAC

(77,835 posts)
57. That Makes Sense
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:19 PM
Jun 23

I also have concerns that they didn't dry it thoroughly.
Once moisture is trapped behind the lining, temperature increases changes the equilibrium between liquid & vapor. As the vapor fraction increases & so does the pressure.
So, since the volume has to increase to relieve the pressure. The only way to increase volume is for the lining to spall.

Srkdqltr

(10,251 posts)
26. All ofyou stop. There is no explanation except HE'S NUTS. Every comment about the pool thing should be
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:20 AM
Jun 23

HE IS NUTS.

Stop trying to rationalize it.
Everyone knows it.

MadameButterfly

(4,388 posts)
35. Actually, since Swift-Boating, nothing can be ignored no matter how crazy
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:46 AM
Jun 23

You never know what will take an more. As long as his approval rating is in the 30s instead of in the teens, his claims have to be countered.

Ms. Toad

(39,010 posts)
30. I was going to say something similar
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:30 AM
Jun 23

I'm not even sure it came apart, but the seam is clearly visible in every image I've seen - long and straight down the middle of the reflecting pool. Someone who is determined to play his own stupidity off as vandalism could pretend it was a cut in order to fool people who can't use their eyes and critical thinking.

Ms. Toad

(39,010 posts)
38. I think the seam is in the base the paint sits on,
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:52 AM
Jun 23

And if just showing through. Look for images of it empty and unpainted and you'll see there is a line down the middle.

Ms. Toad

(39,010 posts)
49. I'm not saying it did.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:00 PM
Jun 23

I think Trump looked at the central line that was visible through the in paint, had no idea what he was looking at, and decided it was a slash - because nothing else (In his mind) would make a straight line.

The peeling paint is an entirely different matter. I think that's just bubbling up because the surface wasn't prepared properly, was filled with water too soon, and had corrosive chemicals dumped in it. He just conflated the two.

 

Melon

(2,012 posts)
46. This doesn't really work. The coating was rolled
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 12:50 PM
Jun 23

On. There shouldn’t be any seams at all. If you paint a house, there are not seams.

Botany

(78,473 posts)
28. There are video surveillance cameras all over the National Mall and if somebody cut the lining there ...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:26 AM
Jun 23

…. would be proof. This is just Trump lying in order to hide the fact he fucked it up, he hired
a swimming pool company from Florida that had no knowledge about working on structures
such as the reflecting pool, he had a fleet of S.U.V.s drive over it before it was set up, millions
of dollars got grifted, ignored experts about albedo, ignored experts about algae, changed the
structure’s design that had areas that allowed some water to escape from the bottom of the pool,
dumped shit loads of H2O2 into the pool, and then blamed other people for what happened.

The Reflecting Pool was working just fine and the National Parks Service had it under control.

MadameButterfly

(4,388 posts)
37. My understanding is the pool had problems, Obama spent millions trying to repair
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:51 AM
Jun 23

it and it didn't work. Estimate for complete reconstruction would be $300 million, and that was not pursued. I don't recall my source, so tell me if I'm wrong. It's just not my impression there wasn't a problem, just that the solution requires experts, not grift.

Botany

(78,473 posts)
43. Without a doubt a structure the size and complexity of that reflecting pool would always need ...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 09:10 AM
Jun 23

upkeep, maintenance, and repairs. However I remember seeing that they throw away some
kind of rubbery material that went in between the joints of the granite and I would GUESS those
joints allowed for some water to seep out from under the pool and into the ground and with the
water table there only being a few feet down the soil would be pretty much saturated and so
the water would drain away slowly.

Before “they” fixed it where were the engineering studies, the hydrogeologists, the fresh water
ecologists, and the vetting of the contractors?

PurgedVoter

(2,730 posts)
31. I have seen a lot of blue painted pools
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:37 AM
Jun 23

These pools had, kids, teens, grownups and even dogs in them. I don't remember seeing paint peeling. When I have been in these pools, some of these pools have rough surfaces, some smooth, but I don't think I could have even gotten the paint off with a knife. There are plastic liners that could possibly by cut, but that would be a different animal. No question at all that the Idiot in Chief and his pool boy are incompetent.

Yes, the pool was vandalized. The same vandals also vandalized a wing of the White House and the White House gardens.

Anyone who hears Krasnov speak and can't detect that he is lying, is damaged mentally. Sad to be fundamentally unable to relate and compare real experience with words people say.

NNadir

(38,981 posts)
32. The planet is burning and we're talking about a pool liner. This, I think, is the true legacy...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:39 AM
Jun 23

...of the collapse of the United States under a senile, corrupt orange pedophile .

LisaL

(48,336 posts)
34. I don't know why we are even discussing this
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 08:44 AM
Jun 23

as if were a serious possibility.
Trump needs scapegoats for his algae disaster.

MustLoveBeagles

(18,730 posts)
48. He's blaming others for his fuck ups
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:00 PM
Jun 23

That's it. I was against the reflecting pool renovation but my God if you're going to do it do it right. If he wanted it done by July 4th he should've drained it months ago and covered it to let it dry properly.

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