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PCIntern

(28,793 posts)
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:19 PM 5 hrs ago

I'm gonna tell you how stupid many of these MSM people are from personal experience:

In about 1985, a fellow dental school classmate of mine was involved in the production of a product which was purported to assist in the diagnosis of periodontal disease by sampling the fluid in the gingival crevice. That is the little space between a tooth surface and the gum which overlays it. Normally between the teeth this is a 3mm space under the gums.

The Philly Channel 6 people decided they wanted to do a segment on this so they contacted my buddy looking for a dentist who would explain this on air and demonstrate. Guess who got the call?

So the station’s official medical reporter showed up. I’d watched her for years report on everything from vaccinations to major surgery and she spoke from her script in knowledgeable language and assertive, doctor/professor-like tone.

I was not prepared for the sheer idiocy to follow. Before we went on camera, she asked me how this works. I explained using simple language that the kit requires a paper point -visualize the last 10mm of a toothpick but made of rolled paper - to be gently inserted between the teeth under the gums for two seconds and removed. I had to re-explain it three times. Then, she informed me that I was to perform this upon her and that she was scared to death

My practice included many dental phobics and so I used all my skills to explain to this six-foot tall, dyed blond, second runner—up in some beauty contest who I thought was extremely well educated and polished based upon my viewing of her reporting that it was gentler than using dental floss. Not only did she clearly not believe me but she threatened that if I hurt her, she was gonna do an exposé of me rather than the diagnostic method.

I put her in a chair, video camera rolling, touched her tooth and gum with the paper point, put the point in the vial provided and said, “We’re done.” She thought I was lying to her. I showed her the point which was clearly dampened with her gingival/sulcular fluid and she kind of accepted my statement as truth.

After she left, one of my staff at the time who was a really sharp South Philly lady said that I had to talk to her as though she were five or six years old. Of course they edited the video so that she was self-assured and confident and it was just another breezy day in her medicalesque career, slumming with a dentist that particular day. And again of course, when she handed off her segment to the anchor, there was the usual cliched dentist/pain/blood/misery/expense bull which is de riguer for any dental issue. As an aside, they don’t do that for podiatric surgery which hurts horribly post-operatively as well as the delivery of anesthetic in the foot.

I never watched her reporting the same way again. But nearly everyone in the Delaware Valley remained impressed with her knowledgeable frames of reference and of course, her dramatic good looks.

The male reporters are the exact same, but that’s a story for another day which I shall relate in the near future.

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I'm gonna tell you how stupid many of these MSM people are from personal experience: (Original Post) PCIntern 5 hrs ago OP
I appreciate your stories, PCIntern! Alice Kramden 4 hrs ago #1
Altho not a personal story, one of my favorite stupid reporter stories... 3catwoman3 4 hrs ago #2
Gell-Mann effect Nasruddin 4 hrs ago #3
I've had a lot of dental/mouth work in the last few years. ananda 3 hrs ago #4
I took that into account PCIntern 3 hrs ago #5
Yeah, she definitely has some sort of history with this. ananda 2 hrs ago #10
Were you tempted to cancel the interview? I would have been. 3catwoman3 2 hrs ago #12
Somehow, I visualize one of those media presenters in a Tom Tomorrow cartoon. NBachers 3 hrs ago #6
Unfortunately PatSeg 3 hrs ago #7
Lawrence O is my TV crush. 3catwoman3 2 hrs ago #13
Absolutely, same here PatSeg 26 min ago #21
Pseudo intellectuals BeneteauBum 2 hrs ago #8
I now know there is an adjectival form of estuary. 3catwoman3 2 hrs ago #15
I've worked in television for most of the last 30 years, and there are some stupid people in the industry. Fil1957 2 hrs ago #9
Yeah, I have done dozens of TV interviews at this point Cosmocat 2 hrs ago #18
The finished product is always polished and slick PCIntern 1 hr ago #19
Please change your headline, it assumes Lilgirl44 2 hrs ago #11
It in no way does any such thing. PCIntern 2 hrs ago #14
Yes , it does. Lilgirl44 1 hr ago #20
??? Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #17
Wow. Who knew? Thanks much. Joinfortmill 2 hrs ago #16

3catwoman3

(30,139 posts)
2. Altho not a personal story, one of my favorite stupid reporter stories...
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 01:56 PM
4 hrs ago

...goes way back to the Winter Olympics in which speed skater Dan Jansen had so many heart-breaking falls. A reporter asked Jansen's coach how much of an influence the slipperiness of the ice was in these falls.

With a withering glare, and a voice dripping with contempt, the coach succinctly replied, "Ice is always slippery."



I eagerly await your next stories.

ananda

(35,791 posts)
4. I've had a lot of dental/mouth work in the last few years.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:37 PM
3 hrs ago

My experience was that it was reallyreallyreally annoying
but not painful at all.

My big issue with it was patience, not fear.

I wonder if something happened to that woman when she
was young and never got over it. You never know.

PCIntern

(28,793 posts)
5. I took that into account
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 02:55 PM
3 hrs ago

When I spoke to her beforehand. Part of my schtick always has been that I’m sure you’ve had some bad experiences but I promise you that this is as benign as it gets. If I thought there was going to be pain I’d tell you. Didn’t matter.

Her threat was beyond obnoxious and frankly, scary.

ananda

(35,791 posts)
10. Yeah, she definitely has some sort of history with this.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 03:41 PM
2 hrs ago

I'm sorry you had to go through that.

My latest dental experiences have been horrible,
but no pain except beforehand, which got me there
in the first place.

It's just sitting in the chair for a long time while they
spray and scrape and I have to stay motionless... my
patience wears thin.

However, all the outcomes have been good.

I just have one more to go when at some point I'll
have to get my back bottom left tooth removed, get
the bone scarped, and have it packed with cadaver
bone.

There's no rush for that one, though.

3catwoman3

(30,139 posts)
12. Were you tempted to cancel the interview? I would have been.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 04:00 PM
2 hrs ago

I vividly recall a time when I really wished I could have just turned around and walked out of an exam room.

I'd picked up a chart from the box outside the door. Patient was a 15 yr old boy with a history of asthma and he was having a flare of symptoms.

I got about as far as saying hello, and introducing myself. The mother, who had a real sourpuss expression on her faced, sternly announced, "He won't use an inhaler, and he won't take any nasal sprays."

After pausing to consider an appropriate reply, I said, "That's not going to leave me much to offer you, is it?" My brain was saying, "Then why the hell are you here?"

PatSeg

(53,991 posts)
7. Unfortunately
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 03:00 PM
3 hrs ago

So much of what we witness on "news" programs is about personalities, appearance, and entertainment. Few are hired for their knowledge, experience, or expertise. Too often they make themselves part of the story as in this case.

I suppose that is the reason that so many of us here prefer news hosts like Lawrence O'Donnell, Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, and Nicolle Wallace. For us, it is about substance, not style AND they don't try to interject themselves into a story. As soon as a journalist tries to become part of a story, I flip channels. I'll make exceptions now and then for O'Donnell who does have some good stories to tell.

PatSeg

(53,991 posts)
21. Absolutely, same here
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 06:06 PM
26 min ago

During the primaries when so many got on the Biden-bashing train, he was the one news commentator who was clear-eyed and reasonable.

He painted the Biden administration with a different brush, one that reinforced all the expertise and incredible accomplishments of that administration; all those many accomplishments that got ignored and pushed aside for more tabloid style stories. Then the late night comedians picked up on those stories and made tasteless jokes that could have contributed to Trump's victory.

I'm still bitter, but Lawrence O'Donnell is still a real gem! We could use more like him.

BeneteauBum

(943 posts)
8. Pseudo intellectuals
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 03:37 PM
2 hrs ago

Met many in my 30 year career in estuarine science. They presented a competent visage to the generic crowd, however, are completely lost in a group of researchers.

Peace ☮️

3catwoman3

(30,139 posts)
15. I now know there is an adjectival form of estuary.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 04:04 PM
2 hrs ago

DU is so educational! Thanks for expanding my vocabulary.

Not sure when I'll get the chance to use it.

Fil1957

(963 posts)
9. I've worked in television for most of the last 30 years, and there are some stupid people in the industry.
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 03:37 PM
2 hrs ago

However, there are also quite a few intelligent people in front of and behind the camera. I believe the intelligence of the people who work in TV mirrors the general population.

Stupid people in TV says a lot more about the intelligence of the country as a whole rather than the industry in particular.

Cosmocat

(15,518 posts)
18. Yeah, I have done dozens of TV interviews at this point
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 04:24 PM
2 hrs ago

never had a bad experience, everyone of them have been professional and did a solid job.

No, they aren't rocket scientists and its actually a very unglamorous job working to set up up stories, getting there, figuring out how to shoot them, then editing them.

But, the all seemed like average americans hustling to make a $, most of who seemed to genuinely be interested in what you were doing - its part of what makes the job full filling to try to do things that interest them while having to answer to their producer.


PCIntern

(28,793 posts)
19. The finished product is always polished and slick
Tue Jun 23, 2026, 05:11 PM
1 hr ago

My issue is that these individuals who report on medical issues, with a few exceptions, are untrained in the complexities of the art and science of medicine and overlook the important subtleties of the subject.

Not for one moment did I say that the individuals were incompetent in the editing and eventual presentation, but conveying the information and appropriate contexts was most difficult because I had to keep overriding existing prejudices which had nothing to do with the subject. The equivalent would be interviewing a highway engineer and returning to the fact that “my sister was in a bad car accident once”.

My apologies for belaboring the point.

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