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Why Hagel? Is there not even one actual fucking Democrat who can be SecDef? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jan 2013 OP
My guess would be there are no qualified Democrats. Autumn Jan 2013 #1
Max Cleland reteachinwi Jan 2013 #2
What not Joe Lieberman? Cynicus Emeritus Jan 2013 #3
Yes I'll take Chuck Hagel for Secretary of Defense. xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #4
Sequestration. n/t YvonneCa Jan 2013 #5
Gen. Wesley Clark (retired) SDjack Jan 2013 #6
It's called the bi-partisan move in MD Chess. dogman Jan 2013 #7
Not one who turns Benjamin Netanyahu to stone with one glance, there isn't. Sadly. leveymg Jan 2013 #8
I suspect, if the administration intends Still Sensible Jan 2013 #9
May I suggest this excellent column... DonViejo Jan 2013 #10
Someone made the point (maybe Chris Hayes) that you need a Republican to give cover to s-cubed Jan 2013 #11
Check on several good points. leveymg Jan 2013 #12
'pukes won't be quite so quick to label BHO as weak on national defense with a 'puke SEC-DEF: indepat Jan 2013 #14
As it was posted in another thread... PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #13
Name somebody else, and we'll go over the pros and cons. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #15
 

Cynicus Emeritus

(172 posts)
3. What not Joe Lieberman?
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jan 2013

He's looking for a job. Only problem is he is one who would might prefer the deaths of 20-50K Americans in Iran, and our Social Security.

But what do I know? I'm just a dumbaxx schmuck that doesn't believe in propaganda.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
7. It's called the bi-partisan move in MD Chess.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

You and I will never understand. At least I don't think I will.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
8. Not one who turns Benjamin Netanyahu to stone with one glance, there isn't. Sadly.
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

Can't think of one who would also be plausibly acceptable to the Pentagon bureaucracy and top uniformed military. Not one.

Wes Clark comes close, but he's perceived as a threat and an outsider to the political Inner Circle.

It's time for the Dems to break with AIPAC and to bob the tail that's been wagging this country. For our good. For Israel's. Maybe, Obama can do that this time around, he seems to be trying a bit harder. Better late than never.

Still Sensible

(2,870 posts)
9. I suspect, if the administration intends
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

to secure some meaningful cuts in defense spending, the political calculation is that it will be somewhat easier to achieve if there is a republican SecDef leading the charge.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
10. May I suggest this excellent column...
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

by Glenn Greenwald? I'm not a Greenwald fan but, in all honesty, this particular column changed my way of thinking about him.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022143812

s-cubed

(1,385 posts)
11. Someone made the point (maybe Chris Hayes) that you need a Republican to give cover to
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jan 2013

cut the military budget substantially. That makes some nice to me: rather like Nixon going to China. I'll believe defense cuts when I see them. But I find it comforting to have someone who saw the horrors of war in person, not some chicken hawk.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
14. 'pukes won't be quite so quick to label BHO as weak on national defense with a 'puke SEC-DEF:
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jan 2013

they'll probably wait a few days longer before doing so.

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
13. As it was posted in another thread...
Sun Jan 6, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jan 2013

It will be easier for President Obama to get cuts to the Defense Department because if it were a Democratic Secretary of Defense, the GOP would call the Democrats "soft on defense" and "soft on terrorism." If a Republican Secretary of Defense calling for cuts, then the GOP would have a hard time opposing them.

Plus, it seems Chuck Hagel is one of the last people in the GOP not calling President Obama a "Kenyan-born terrorist sympathizer." He was a vocal critic of the Iraq War and wasn't afraid of ruffling feathers in his own party.

When it comes to some of the criticism within our own party when it comes to gay-rights and abortion issues, all I can say is he will be serving as Defense Secretary and his boss will be a pro-gay rights, pro-choice Democratic President. There will not be too many times when his past stances on gay-rights or abortion will get in the way of his duties as Defense Secretary.

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