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When I first heard it reported that VP Biden said that the WH is prepared to take Executive Action on Gun Control - I thought he spilled at the mouth and revealed something that he shouldn't have and would be in trouble again for talking without thinking. Then I heard that Wal-Mart reconsidered and will now attend the meeting that they said that they wouldn't attend.
So - was it the threat of Executive Action on the part of the WH that caused Wal-Mart to reconsider? Is the threat of Executive Action by the WH a ploy to get the parties around the table to compromise on something that they can live with versus having an Executive Order that they didn't have a say in at all?
Could the threat of Executive Action push this issue to some resolve? Is this Executive Action threat just that - a threat - and can the WH use it to say - we'll back off of an Executive Order - if the parties come to some resolution?
unblock
(52,438 posts)e.g., by executive order, no department will purchase anything from any vendor that also sells certain restricted weapons to the public.
so, yes, the threat of losing all federal government business could get some parties to agree to some restrictions "voluntarily".
B2G
(9,766 posts)liberal N proud
(60,351 posts)He might have been sticking it to the crowd that is just sure Obama is going to take all their guns.
The President can legitimately do some things per executive order. It includes improving the gun tracking at the ATF, looking at the mental health history of gun buyers, banning the importation of military style weapons, and sharing info between states and the federal govt.
Banning assault weapons and other proposals still have to go through Congress.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)nothing but bluff.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)Would automatically know that Executive Action has to be,at least a momentary consideration,on just about any issue,even if it's immediately discounted......Of course,it then follows that almost half the general public would be shocked by the very proposition.....
elfin
(6,262 posts)Not surprised if he spoke out of turn. Did it with gay issues and pushed O in the right direction. I bet it is Joe being Joe and that the options have been discussed - just not with full blessing of O to go public. We shall see.
I LOVE Joe.
patrice
(47,992 posts)how reasonable either the doing or the not doing is. He gets the same shit with the same intensity from all directions.
Therefore, he might just as well go ahead and do whatever is most reasonably justifiable to get some effect upon whatever is involved in gun violence, that is, whatever is causing DEATH and SUFFERING, in our country.
There are parts of this town where I cannot go, even though I might want to, and the reason I can't go there is because I, and many others, can't go there. All of that is only making itself worse and worse, to the point that no one, not even those who are themselves involved in what is going on can do anything about it. I also know that there are ministers on "that side of town" who very much want some help with this intractable problem, which they have been struggling with for generations.
Responsible law-abiding gun owners would receive ever so much more respect and concern if they'd demonstrate one ounce of concern about the very real problems that what they insist is their right causes and that it very definitely does OPPRESS others. You'd think someone on that side would be recognizing the premium building for solutions now, so it's a legitimate questions as to why, REALLY honestly why, they don't.