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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:33 PM Jan 2013

Mother Jones: The NRA, Anti-Government Extremism, The Tea Party, And Their Ancestor, Timothy McVeigh

One time Republican, Timothy McVeigh lived and learned at gun shows often co-sponsored by the NRA. At the time, the NRA was not radical enough for McVeigh, so he let his membership lapse.

Today, McVeigh would feel Right At Home with the NRA and The Tea Party.
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Apparently the actions of National Rifle Association member Timothy McVeigh didn't teach the organization that its violent anti-government rhetoric can have dangerous consequences. On a day when thousands of Tea Party activists are taking to the streets to protest Tax Day, the Violence Policy Center has released a report today chronicling the increasing ties between the gun lobby and the Tea Party movement, and the NRA's adoption of much of the "Patriot movement's" anti-government language. The center sees direct parallels between the NRA's current activities and those in the years leading up to McVeigh's fateful decision to blow up the Oklahoma federal building:

"The gun lobby is once again embracing—and, equally important, validating—the anti-government rhetoric being offered by activists that range from Tea Party members, through pro-gun advocates, to members of the militia movement. And as was the case with Timothy McVeigh, the risk lies not so much with the organized members of these groups, but with the "lone wolves" who not only embrace their rhetoric, but are willing to act on it with violence."

The report connects the NRA to the organizers of this Monday's Second Amendment March in DC, an event the VPC finds ominous. The VPC quotes march organizer Skip Coryell, who wrote a March article in Human Events describing the event's purpose:

My question to everyone reading this article is this: "For you, as an individual, when do you draw your saber? When do you say, “Yes, I am willing to rise up and overthrow an oppressive, totalitarian government?”...I hear the clank of metal on metal getting closer, but that’s not enough. The politicians have to hear it too. They have to hear it, and they have to believe it. Come and support me at the Second Amendment March on April 19th on the Washington Monument grounds. Let’s rattle some sabers and show the government we’re still here. We are here, and we are not silent!

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2010/04/nra-encouraging-tea-party-and-militia-violence

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Mother Jones: The NRA, Anti-Government Extremism, The Tea Party, And Their Ancestor, Timothy McVeigh (Original Post) onehandle Jan 2013 OP
Missing from the subject is the ReTHUG party malaise Jan 2013 #1
I don't think Timothy McVeigh is their ancestor. Turbineguy Jan 2013 #2
That's a pretty extraordinary claim. Pale Blue Dot Jan 2013 #3
They've done something like it before Turbineguy Jan 2013 #12
look no further than Robert Welch... aided by the Koch Brothers father.. oldhippydude Jan 2013 #4
I wonder if McVeigh admired the Nazi party flamingdem Jan 2013 #15
Yes, I have felt along that we are going to have another Oklahoma City type event dem in texas Jan 2013 #5
Ruby Ridge... MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #6
i had it pegged even money either an OK city event... or a Jonestown mass suicide oldhippydude Jan 2013 #7
April 19? reteachinwi Jan 2013 #9
Far more will fall to far right gunbaggery than fell to 9/11. nt onehandle Jan 2013 #13
America's right-wing political spectrum is the Tea Party's ancestor... YoungDemCA Jan 2013 #8
that article is from 2010 mrsadm Jan 2013 #10
And even more true today. nt onehandle Jan 2013 #11
Related petition in Meta Turborama Jan 2013 #14

Turbineguy

(37,329 posts)
2. I don't think Timothy McVeigh is their ancestor.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 12:58 PM
Jan 2013

I have a theory that this entire new American Conservative movement was cooked up by the KGB in the mid to late '70's to destroy America from within. The movement later became so successful because the useful idiots at the bottom were willing to pay those at the top so well.

Turbineguy

(37,329 posts)
12. They've done something like it before
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:33 PM
Jan 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust

After WWI the Soviets had western governments paying for Soviet intelligence operations. Krushchev famously said "we will bury you!". Brezhnev may have decided to have the Americans dig their own graves.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
4. look no further than Robert Welch... aided by the Koch Brothers father..
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 01:51 PM
Jan 2013

and the John Birch Society... on the heels of the Mc Carthy era..

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
15. I wonder if McVeigh admired the Nazi party
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 03:48 AM
Jan 2013

I know that his girlfriend complained that he slept with his gun and paid more attention to it than to her.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
5. Yes, I have felt along that we are going to have another Oklahoma City type event
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jan 2013

We will not be attacked by foreign Muslim terrorists, but by good ole' white boy terrorists. They will pick a date that is significant to some event concerning guns or gun control.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
7. i had it pegged even money either an OK city event... or a Jonestown mass suicide
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:03 PM
Jan 2013

but now I am betting the former... and watch the right wing powers that be blame it on the feds...

 

reteachinwi

(579 posts)
9. April 19?
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:08 PM
Jan 2013

At Minute Man National Historical Park the opening battle of the Revolution is brought to life as visitors explore the battlefields and structures associated with April 19, 1775, and witness the American revolutionary spirit through the writings of the Concord authors.
http://www.nps.gov/mima/index.htm

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
8. America's right-wing political spectrum is the Tea Party's ancestor...
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 03:06 PM
Jan 2013

The likes of McVeigh, etc. are just the most extreme expression of the American Far Right.

Few people would take action like McVeigh, but there are more people who secretly agreed with him than would care to admit.

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