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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSome people are so hypocritical about abortions. They profess to be taking up
for the life of the unborn child of someone they don't even know, but if it's THEIR
relative who wants an abortion, it's a totally different story.
Someone on DU posted that some of the buttheads who were protesting against Dr. Tiller
went to see him on the sly to arrange abortions for their family members.
Oh, the cognitive dissonance!
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)...after that? If they converted to pro-choice afterwards that would be a good thing.
raccoon
(31,110 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)It's like gay-hating... how many of the Phelps people have gay relatives that they love? Yet that doesn't stop them from waving the fucking "GOD HATES FAGS" signs.
I wonder how many anti-abortion politicians have driven their mistresses to an abortion clinic?
Or how many wives have had abortions behind their backs to prevent another forced pregnancy.
idwiyo
(5,113 posts)The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion
When the Anti-choice Choose
By Joyce Arthur
http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html
sorefeet
(1,241 posts)who hates Democrats and Liberals she claims to be a RonPaul lover. She said sheis against abortions although she has had one. BUT in her case she was forgiven by God so it's OK.
dangin
(148 posts)I interviewed a doc who was the only practitioner in his rural county. That was the case for 40 years. He had a "loud mouth" prolife lady always being the loudest about it. She came to him for an abortion, which he did not provide, but he sent her on to the proper clinic. The procedure he did provide was her husband's vasectomy 5 years earlier.
tanyev
(42,552 posts)yet being opposed to all or most types of contraception.
glowing
(12,233 posts)They profess years later, with out the child who would have probably held them back in life and would have had them working dis-jointed schedules and on the weekend because they had that baby when they were a teen, that they stand out there living out their "grief" on a stage. They turned to Jesus to help them thru their pain, but were railroaded by the "agendas issues" that the churches now engage in. Instead of taking their situation and trying to change the system so that an abortion is really an actual choice and not something women have to do because they cannot afford to do otherwise, they stand there and attack another person in a similar situation that they faced themselves 20 yrs before.
Stupid asses. Also, when they undermine health care for women, especially reproductive care, they are putting many women in extremely dangerous situations. Problems arise, not all children live or will live outside of the body (as badly screwed up as our environment is, its amazing how many healthy, beautiful babies do come out of women). The late term abortions are mainly for women who have had an issue arise in the last stages of pregnancy. Normally, the baby is wanted and a nursery is painted and clothes are hanging up ready to use, perhaps a baby shower has already occurred. People aren't just walking in off the st 8 mo's pregnant and say, "oops, I really don't want this baby now"... However, there would be less infantcides by young women who didn't know or feel they could tell anyone that they were pregnant, and once a baby is born, they have to "get rid of it"... They should have education, access to items like birth control, and a society that doesn't "slut-shame" them and helps them to actually raise the baby or provide viable adoption outlets (more women would probably choose to allow for an adoption if they knew that they could be involved throughout the child's life and know that there baby is ok; not find out 20 yrs later that the adoptive parents were monsters and that the child had been abused its entire life. I know it may not be comfortable for an adopting family to allow a child's birth parents to be involved, but who cares, get over it. A child knows love, they have big hearts, and they are more than adjustable to situations that they grow up in. If living with "adoptive parents" and "visiting bio-parents" was the norm, they would be just fine.
Anyway, the better way to help women make a real choice about pregnancy is to give them the access to family planning, reproductive health early and to make it easier for young women to access items like birth control, STD testing, and Doctors without a bunch of parents interfering or standing in the way of their sons and daughters to ask about safety regarding sexual activity. Those coming from a religous background can have it even worse since they are expected to be pure and innocent. I have found, in my own life, that those from a really strict home, end up going "wild" and making unhealthy choices about their lives when they finally get a little bit of "freedom"... Particularly, freshmen year in college was an interesting transition. Those who had very restrictive parents tended to party harder and engage in unhealthier "relationships". They had a harder time balancing responsibility or studying with the new found freedom of college life. Those of us who had a more trusting, positive relationship with our parents, tended to balance the experience of college with the responsibility of being educated and even working too. But even back then, in South Carolina, our University partnered with the county health services, and for the option of getting a year's worth of free birth control, we were given a free yearly exam along with testing options. I remember when we all decided that we would get the full monty of std testing including an AIDS test. We were all holding our breaths for about 2 weeks; some more than others. After doing that for the first time, doing it as a routine test was a easier the following years... AND all of us who were graduating in May, made an apt our Senior year for another year's worth of free birth control because a job with benefits wasn't exactly at our fingertips, and we would be thrown off our parents insurance as soon as the diploma was in our hand (thankfully, the ObamaCare makes it possible to stay on insurance now until 26). For my old building block, this meant that we would have about 18 mos of b.c. since we first went into the "system" closer to winter break. Thank God, because not having birth control as a young woman at 21 would have been tragic... I would have to pay a lot of money out or trapse all the way across town to the free clinic, which was hard to get an apt at because so many women had to use it.) Having the on-campus clinic like we did, saved all of us a lot of money and allowed us to gain access to a Dr who would treat us for bladder infections or family planning services or help with a flu. AND statistically, the university had more women remain in the University and less drop out due to a pregnancy. Also, the amt of STD's infecting the campus declined as well because there was easier access to be tested which would hault the progression of
bonniebgood
(940 posts)lobby than the gun lobby. Apparently, The only constitutional right is the 2nd amendment.
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)It provides necessary health services to women, particularly women living below the poverty level (75% of patient.) This is in direct contrast to the NRA whose mission is armed revolution (why else would someone advocate for the unregulated ownership of military weapons and ammunition?) You are right, the gun lobby gets the cash to buy their legislation! Most of PP's donations go for women's health. Says volumes about our nation.