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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo felons lose their 2nd Amendment rights?
I know they lose their voting rights so to me it would be odd that they could not vote yet could own weapons.
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NutmegYankee
(16,204 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)Some states remove a person's voting rights for life, some do not.
As far as firearms, on the federal level the ATF regulates firearms and federal law dictates no one with a felony may own a firearm. However, ATF does not regulate muzzleloaders as a muzzleloader is not considered a firearm under ATF regs (check ATF for definition/laws concerning firearms/muzzleloaders).
For example, in my state, you can vote after you're released from incarceration, and you can have a muzzleloader unless you're considered a serious violent felon (SVF).
I have many clients who have felonies and I've researched this for my state very carefully. There is a lot of misinformation out there and even state and local agencies are misinformed/confused.
As always, a person under disability must check very carefully before attempting to acquire firearms/muzzleloaders.
Hope this helps.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Almost all do for some period of time; some states rehabilitate felons after X years for some value of X, and people who are pardoned years later regain their rights too.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)and it is a question on the Bureau of Investigations background check. It is not limited to "violent crimes" only. This is why Mark Thurman who perjured himself at the OJ Simpson trial noted he would have to "switch to bow hunting now".
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)Firearms - no.
Muzzleloaders - some states, yes. In my state a SVF cannot posses a muzzleloader.
TheKentuckian
(25,034 posts)once a sentence has been completed and further that no one should be required to define themselves as a felon after said point nor should a person be treated as such any further.
The debt to society should be considered paid in full and the offender should be fully reintegrated. Probation and parole would be considered still under sentence (as they are) but once the debt is paid then the punishment and sanctions should be over.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)have said one of the most enlightened things I've heard all day!
Unfortunately, it falls on the deaf ears of many voters who elect our representatives. I've observed that most of those against your sound reasoning are conservative and Christian.
Go figure.
TheKentuckian
(25,034 posts)Though, I don't think the Tealiban is the only major obstacle, see "centrists".
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I'd like for a judge to be able to extend the Constitutional disabilities, or not, based on his or her discretion.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)I would be worried that in some areas of the country the judge's discretion would take the individuals skin color into account. I wouldn't disagree with disabilities depending on what the person was convicted of, but leaving the whole process up to the discretion of a judge doesn't sit well with me.
P.S. I apologize in advance if I misread your post and took your words out of context.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)OTOH if you don't leave judges discretion, laws tend to be too draconian. I don't know that there's a "right" answer.
petronius
(26,608 posts)could reasonably be made a part of the sentence extending after the actual term of incarceration.
It's the voting prohibitions that I've never understood - personally, I think people should be allowed to vote even from prison if they want to...
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)rights restored.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Which is as it should be.
Those four states should get with the program.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I thought that there were more on that list.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Such as in Arizona a "habitual" felon can lose them for life.
I think, but am not sure since this may have changed,some states apply restrictions depending on the type of felony. Forcing a person with certain types of convictions to have to petition for their rights back. Most however, reinstate voting rights upon completion of a sentence.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)As are people who are convicted of misdemeanors with more then 2 years of prison.
Unrepentant Fenian
(1,078 posts)at least here in Washington State. I'm not sure, but I think the felony has to be non-violent.
LAGC
(5,330 posts)Same with voting rights. In most states, felons automatically get their right to vote restored upon completion of their sentence. (Completely off-paper, after probation/parole.)
Depending on how serious the felony, some felons have to wait so many years before petitioning the courts for their gun rights back.
Felons with federal convictions, however, currently have no recourse as the ATF isn't currently funded to handle relief applications at this time.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)as long as it can't be concealed. They also get their voting rights back after they've finished their paper time.
obamanut2012
(26,166 posts)As do convicted domestic abusers, even for a misdemeanor charge.