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On Tuesday, Kyaw, 18, was on her way to work at Urban Nation, a clothing store in the Fayette Mall in Lexington, Ky. when she was approached by two women.
They were waiting outside the store for a couple of hours, a witness told me later, Kyaw told the Daily News.
Kyaw said she recognized one of the women from Facebook as the ex-girlfriend of a man she had recently dated. After receiving several threatening messages warning her to stay away from the man, Kyaw had blocked her.
Id never seen her in person, just on Facebook. Kyaw said. Then she came walking up beside me, and I thought, is that her? She was staring at me and I said, are you serious?
What happened next still feels like a bad dream to Kyaw.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/aspiring-model-face-slashed-shopping-mall-article-1.1242960
We are quickly descending into the Wild West Part 2.
derby378
(30,252 posts)I'm always told that you should never strike a lady, but you know what? Screw that. If a woman inflicts grievous bodily harm on another woman with a deadly weapon, and any one of us is in a position to respond, it's go time.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The appropriate response to witnessed violence is heavily dependent on the genders of the victims and assailant(s).
derby378
(30,252 posts)If you see violence and you're in a position to respond, you don't run calculations based on the race, gender, and/or sexual orientation of the victim and the assailant. You jump in, because there is a human being that needs your help.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Any time one has to make a caveat or a rationalization to do what would be obvious in any other circumstance, they are reacting in the context of a social norm.
In the situation at hand, you were talking about the internal conflict you would experience between obligation to protect women vs your responsibility to never hit one. This conflict only makes sense if the social norm you are operating within presumes that women are always victims and never perpetrators.
Would you intervene to disarm two guys with knives attacking another guy? Two women attacking a guy? Two guys attacking a woman?
Generally speaking, people don't intervene unless the victim is a woman, and apparently a gray area occurs when the perpetrators are also female.
Situational morality is interesting. Unexamined situational morality bugs me.
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)People jumping in to help their fellow humans, is not as common as you think. On most occasions considerable forethought, (including weeks of training) plays a huge factor in rapid interventions.
qazplm
(3,626 posts)yes, generally because of the physical differences there are many times when there is no necessity for a man to strike a woman, because they use lesser force (or often no force), and certainly the real issue isn't that the woman is acting wrong but the man is using violence to control or abuse the woman.
But in situations where the woman is an aggressor then she is treated no different than a man, you use the minimum force necessary to defend yourself or others from harm but if that means striking or more, than so be it.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Whovian
(2,866 posts)I wish her best of healing.
mythology
(9,527 posts)but there's something interesting in the newspaper mentioning that she was an aspiring model. Would this have been less tragic if she weren't attractive?
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)white_wolf
(6,238 posts)I completely agree with your point otherwise.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I doubt the assailants would have done that particular act on her if she was disfigured in some way or physically unattractive.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)I was pushed down 2 flights of steps in middle school. All because I was talking to a guy another girl liked. How I keep from breaking anything was a miracle. I didn't get told to stay away tho. I was just pushed, then she came down and ask me if I learned my lesson.
I was black and blue for a couple of weeks. And I did sprain my left wrist and twisted my knee. But, as I said, I didn't get my bones broke. The ER Doc was surprised.
The sickest part is all she got was a week suspension. I was told I was to blame for talking to her boyfriend by the the school councilor. He asked me about the math assignment, I let him know what it was. I didn't even know his name. But it was somehow wrong.
That was the last straw with my mother. She started to home school me after that. Their were other bulling that was talked about in PTA meetings and many parents were tick at how the teacher were handling it. The 90's were not a good time it the school system.
fried eggs
(910 posts)I'm sorry you had to go through that. I think your family could have sued the school based on the counselor's response.
Initech
(100,096 posts)I graduated in 1998... did someone put crazy pills in the water to turn people into violent psychopaths between 1998 and now??
flvegan
(64,411 posts)If true, surrounded by fucking cowards you were.
With all the video cameras around, I question the lack of an arrest, especially with a name.