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fried eggs

(910 posts)
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:47 PM Jan 2013

Teen Model Gets Her Face Slashed By 2 Girls Over A Boy



For aspiring model Nicole Kyaw, it was a day that may forever alter the course of her life.

On Tuesday, Kyaw, 18, was on her way to work at Urban Nation, a clothing store in the Fayette Mall in Lexington, Ky. when she was approached by two women.

“They were waiting outside the store for a couple of hours, a witness told me later,” Kyaw told the Daily News.
Kyaw said she recognized one of the women from Facebook as the ex-girlfriend of a man she had recently dated. After receiving several threatening messages warning her to “stay away” from the man, Kyaw had blocked her.

“I’d never seen her in person, just on Facebook.” Kyaw said. “Then she came walking up beside me, and I thought, is that her? She was staring at me and I said, ‘are you serious?’”

What happened next still feels like a bad dream to Kyaw.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/aspiring-model-face-slashed-shopping-mall-article-1.1242960




We are quickly descending into the Wild West Part 2.
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Teen Model Gets Her Face Slashed By 2 Girls Over A Boy (Original Post) fried eggs Jan 2013 OP
What kills me is that nobody in the mall did anything derby378 Jan 2013 #1
I find this train of thought intriguing. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #3
I was speaking in terms of traditional societal norms derby378 Jan 2013 #6
Me too. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #7
What actually happens is you run a pre-programmed response. TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #12
no one gets a free pass to assault someone else qazplm Jan 2013 #5
This kind of shit has been going on forever..eom pipoman Jan 2013 #2
God, how sad. Whovian Jan 2013 #4
I understand that you used the title from the article mythology Jan 2013 #8
Multiple levels of cultural insight to be found here. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #9
I'm assuming it's because this may ruin her chances for a modeling career. white_wolf Jan 2013 #13
That she is attractive is the most likely motive for this particular crime Fumesucker Jan 2013 #14
I can sympathize with her. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #10
That's terrible fried eggs Jan 2013 #16
What the hell is wrong with people??? Initech Jan 2013 #11
"No one at the mall intervened" flvegan Jan 2013 #15

derby378

(30,252 posts)
1. What kills me is that nobody in the mall did anything
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:53 PM
Jan 2013

I'm always told that you should never strike a lady, but you know what? Screw that. If a woman inflicts grievous bodily harm on another woman with a deadly weapon, and any one of us is in a position to respond, it's go time.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
3. I find this train of thought intriguing.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jan 2013

The appropriate response to witnessed violence is heavily dependent on the genders of the victims and assailant(s).

derby378

(30,252 posts)
6. I was speaking in terms of traditional societal norms
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jan 2013

If you see violence and you're in a position to respond, you don't run calculations based on the race, gender, and/or sexual orientation of the victim and the assailant. You jump in, because there is a human being that needs your help.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
7. Me too.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jan 2013

Any time one has to make a caveat or a rationalization to do what would be obvious in any other circumstance, they are reacting in the context of a social norm.

In the situation at hand, you were talking about the internal conflict you would experience between obligation to protect women vs your responsibility to never hit one. This conflict only makes sense if the social norm you are operating within presumes that women are always victims and never perpetrators.

Would you intervene to disarm two guys with knives attacking another guy? Two women attacking a guy? Two guys attacking a woman?

Generally speaking, people don't intervene unless the victim is a woman, and apparently a gray area occurs when the perpetrators are also female.



Situational morality is interesting. Unexamined situational morality bugs me.
 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
12. What actually happens is you run a pre-programmed response.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:28 AM
Jan 2013
"Don't hit girls." Which gives you just enough time to start thinking all sorts of thoughts like, "Do I want to be the one seen to be whaling on a girl?" "That broken bottle has someone else's blood on it." "Does she have any friends?" "How many are there?" "Surely someone else will do something."

People jumping in to help their fellow humans, is not as common as you think. On most occasions considerable forethought, (including weeks of training) plays a huge factor in rapid interventions.

qazplm

(3,626 posts)
5. no one gets a free pass to assault someone else
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:01 PM
Jan 2013

yes, generally because of the physical differences there are many times when there is no necessity for a man to strike a woman, because they use lesser force (or often no force), and certainly the real issue isn't that the woman is acting wrong but the man is using violence to control or abuse the woman.

But in situations where the woman is an aggressor then she is treated no different than a man, you use the minimum force necessary to defend yourself or others from harm but if that means striking or more, than so be it.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
8. I understand that you used the title from the article
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jan 2013

but there's something interesting in the newspaper mentioning that she was an aspiring model. Would this have been less tragic if she weren't attractive?

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
13. I'm assuming it's because this may ruin her chances for a modeling career.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:31 AM
Jan 2013

I completely agree with your point otherwise.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
14. That she is attractive is the most likely motive for this particular crime
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:33 AM
Jan 2013

I doubt the assailants would have done that particular act on her if she was disfigured in some way or physically unattractive.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
10. I can sympathize with her.
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jan 2013

I was pushed down 2 flights of steps in middle school. All because I was talking to a guy another girl liked. How I keep from breaking anything was a miracle. I didn't get told to stay away tho. I was just pushed, then she came down and ask me if I learned my lesson.

I was black and blue for a couple of weeks. And I did sprain my left wrist and twisted my knee. But, as I said, I didn't get my bones broke. The ER Doc was surprised.


The sickest part is all she got was a week suspension. I was told I was to blame for talking to her boyfriend by the the school councilor. He asked me about the math assignment, I let him know what it was. I didn't even know his name. But it was somehow wrong.

That was the last straw with my mother. She started to home school me after that. Their were other bulling that was talked about in PTA meetings and many parents were tick at how the teacher were handling it. The 90's were not a good time it the school system.

fried eggs

(910 posts)
16. That's terrible
Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:00 PM
Jan 2013

I'm sorry you had to go through that. I think your family could have sued the school based on the counselor's response.

Initech

(100,096 posts)
11. What the hell is wrong with people???
Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jan 2013

I graduated in 1998... did someone put crazy pills in the water to turn people into violent psychopaths between 1998 and now??

flvegan

(64,411 posts)
15. "No one at the mall intervened"
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:41 AM
Jan 2013

If true, surrounded by fucking cowards you were.

With all the video cameras around, I question the lack of an arrest, especially with a name.

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