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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:19 AM Jan 2013

James Taylor: Rove/GOP Reopening wounds of Civil War for political base & to hide political agenda

In an interview with Charlie Rose, musician James Taylor issued a harsh rebuke to many aspects of the United States political system — and Karl Rove, in particular.



“To me, the Founding Fathers are the dream and the Civil War and Abraham Lincoln are where the rubber hits the road. That’s where this country sort of manifests it and that’s where the division manifested. And we still suffer from those divisions of the Civil War. We are still fighting the Civil War, I think. And there are people who, to their discredit, there are people who mine and encourage us to refight the Civil War. They find political strength from doing that. I’m talking about Karl Rove here. Reopening those wounds of the Civil War for political base and to hide their political agenda, which is elitist, which you can’t sell to a whole bunch of people because it doesn’t benefit them.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/karl-rove-off-key-for-james-taylor-86610.html#ixzz2IoPZJTEN

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James Taylor: Rove/GOP Reopening wounds of Civil War for political base & to hide political agenda (Original Post) kpete Jan 2013 OP
I presume you're referring to "The War of Northern Aggression" as my UNC buddy calls it... PCIntern Jan 2013 #1
K&R Tell it like it is JT /nt think Jan 2013 #2
For Rove, it's all about numbers. nyquil_man Jan 2013 #3
They want to promote an uprising... Historic NY Jan 2013 #4
Rove is a traitor. topcat007 Jan 2013 #5
The elitist RW agenda is the key reason for the Rovian portrayal of "the left" as elitist... Faryn Balyncd Jan 2013 #6
Thanks, Faryn, this could be an OP in itself We People Jan 2013 #9
JT should run for Senate RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #7
He considered the idea SecularMotion Jan 2013 #11
Where do you think I got the idea from? RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #12
The GOP has moved from taking advantage of racism, to keeping it alive. reformist2 Jan 2013 #8
+1 AMEN!! The last election was the most racist election in my voting lifetime uponit7771 Jan 2013 #10
K&R Cha Jan 2013 #13

PCIntern

(25,544 posts)
1. I presume you're referring to "The War of Northern Aggression" as my UNC buddy calls it...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jan 2013

Yup, they're still fighting it...Stars and Bars, anyone?

...and they call themselves "Patriots"...

nyquil_man

(1,443 posts)
3. For Rove, it's all about numbers.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:29 AM
Jan 2013

Issues are just a weapon to be used against your opponent in order to get more numbers. They are never a means of educating people or of finding common ground.

When people spit out the word "politics" as though they're spitting out cyanide, they're thinking (whether they realize it or not) about people like Karl Rove.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
4. They want to promote an uprising...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jan 2013

were constantly hearing the RTKBA is about taking up weapons against the government, we tried that didn't we. Somewhere in the words missed is... to provide for the common defense.

Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
6. The elitist RW agenda is the key reason for the Rovian portrayal of "the left" as elitist...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:14 PM
Jan 2013


Rove's most important contribution to the diabolical Republican strategy is to have the unmitigated gall to (repeatedly) attack the opposition for the very things that Rove's side is most guilty.

It's not simply sub-conscious projection, but at its deepest level it is a conscious strategy to nullify the right wing's most vulnerable weaknesses by creating a meme that falsely accuses opponents of precisely those traits.

And, over and over again, they have received the benefit of the corporate media, and now even NPR, accepting those false memes.

After creating the emotionally powerful false image of a "elitist left" which is re-iterated by the punditry, working class and middle class Republican voters are inoculated against the grim reality of the elitist agenda of the GOP, and of their own victimization.




If we are to defeat RW forces before they consolidate their overwhelming economic power to create a neo-feudal society, it is of prime importance that we reverse the RW's control of the language and semantics of political discourse.






We People

(619 posts)
9. Thanks, Faryn, this could be an OP in itself
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:36 PM
Jan 2013

The right wing has been doing this kind of thing for decades, and it has taught its followers the habit of projection. It promotes the opposite of one of the keys to maturity and good mental health - the ability to see and assess oneself honestly, as others see them. It's too easy to turn negative attributes to others that one has within oneself, and try to change them.

There are so many layers of dishonesty within the right wing and the GOP that it's hard to keep up.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
7. JT should run for Senate
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:15 PM
Jan 2013

He would easily win Kerry's old seat, should he be confirmed.
Scott Brown should not have that seat at all.

 

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
11. He considered the idea
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 05:44 PM
Jan 2013
Taylor also revealed that he spent a week "very seriously considering" whether to seek the Democratic nomination for the seat soon to be vacated by U.S. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., who is expected to be confirmed as the next secretary of state later this month.

The suggestion was floated by WAMC Northeast Public Radio president and political commentator Alan Chartock in a recent Berkshire Eagle column.

"It was a hugely generous, very gratifying thing that Alan suggested that I might be considered as a candidate," said Taylor. "I did take it seriously for a while and talked to friends about it, but ultimately, I decided that I'm doing what I'm meant to do.

http://www.berkshireeagle.com/ci_22422236/james-taylor-overcomes-case-jitters-at-inauguration?source=most_viewed
 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
12. Where do you think I got the idea from?
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jan 2013

That Chartock gets to many of us who listen to him. I listen to WAMC each and every day. It's like my religion! I've been a member of the station for many years as well.

I still think that JT should run... He would win hands down!

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
8. The GOP has moved from taking advantage of racism, to keeping it alive.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jan 2013

They've moved from cynical to truly sick in the head, imo.
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