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from Joan Walsh at Salon: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/28/that_obama_clinton_chemistry/
That Obama-Clinton Chemistry
It wasn't about 2016. It was about two hard-working "gluttons for punishment" enjoying their unlikely friendship
. . . Im not entirely sure why the joint interview, which was hyped for so many days, whose hype I resisted, wound up being so affecting. But let me throw out a few thoughts about it.
Im sure most of it was the bitter battle between the two of them. It was nice to see that Obama giving Clinton a tough and high-profile job wasnt merely placating or co-opting a rival. And maybe the glow was just what happens when two charismatic figures with adorable chemistry appear together. Weve seen them together only briefly on stage. Weve seen them, sadly, at the homecoming for dead heroes like Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and the other Americans killed in Benghazi.
There may simply be a remarkable charge when these two amazing firsts first African American president, first 18-million-cracks-in-the-glass-ceiling female candidate come together. And when they dont fight, like those firsts are supposed to do, and once did, but they glory in one anothers radiance, and they support one another.
. . . So set aside 2016. Im not sure why the president wanted to do the joint interview Steve Kroft said it was his idea, which is interesting, but who really knows? But Im glad they did. In this era of ugly near mortal political combat, its reassuring when two formal rivals come together. Their obvious physical comfort and warmth was strangely moving.
Seeing two of the worlds most powerful people, who happen to be a black man and a white woman, leaning in against one another and laughing and sighing, sharing their enjoyment of one anothers company and their relief at the hard times theyve seen the country through well, now Im not sure why I was acting like it was hard to explain its delight. It was delightful.
read: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/28/that_obama_clinton_chemistry/
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Mdterp01
(144 posts)Had Hillary been VP, there would be no doubt about her 2016 run. However, sources in the Washington political scene have said that it was more Michelle and not Barack who didn't think Hillary should be asked for VP due to the thought that both Hillary and Bill would be undermining. Still wish I had that crystal ball of sorts to see what an Obama/Clinton presidency would've been like. In the end, I think Joe has been great and he and the President make a great team.
bigtree
(85,996 posts). . . with Hillary serving as SoS. That's just a more influential, substantive, and consequential post where we got to see just how independently dynamic her performance and policy turned out to be. If you follow State, you'll see a depth and breadth of activities and initiatives from Sec. Clinton which make for a notable and (in many ways) historic script for our nation vs. the world. It's really remarkable just how unified the two were on policy and how much deference and respect she appeared to give the President on issues and the details of his policies. There really isn't a more important and impressionistic position.
What was a hoot for me was the way in which Mrs. Clinton put the campaign rhetoric about her dilettante-like travels around the globe as first lady right in the can with her brilliant, resourceful, and unflagging stewardship of our nation's foreign policy.
I actually think she greatly enhanced her 2016 prospects in her role and performance (if that's what she wants). Despite the fact that she's always been a compelling figure, her persona has never had this much appeal.
Cha
(297,184 posts)absolute best combo, imv, too, bigtree. Pres Obama, VP Biden, and SOS Hillary.
We're fortunate to have so many brilliant Democrats who are there to serve our country.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Methinks the headline writer was smoking something that made him a little rhapsodic. This sounds like something out of North Korea propaganda.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)She does that while still staying relevant.
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woo me with science
(32,139 posts)not as godlike figures who "radiate" and create feelings of "glory."
The wording is extremely silly, and *particularly* ridiculous when used for politicians. That's all.
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woo me with science
(32,139 posts)That's a little disturbing....
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woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Oh, bigtree...I don't even know what to say to all this gravity.
It is very, very interesting, and getting creepier by the minute, to say the least...
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woo me with science
(32,139 posts)They're good for you. Really.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)I actually thought of this one:
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I almost forgot about it.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
MadTV was great, better than SNL. The video was meant in good fun.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)Must suck to be so negative.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)when I told her I was not preparing for the rapture.
She got really miffed about it, too.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Visually speaking, they look good together. They also have similar temperaments. They are both analytical, pragmatic and don't suffer fools gladly. They are not as outgoing as their spouses, but I think that as time went on they both have learned to enjoy the crowds.
By all accounts, they have enjoyed a good working relationship and have forged a friendship of sorts.
bigtree
(85,996 posts)I'll bet that relationship provided opportunities for behind-the-scenes communication between the two through the awkward period after the primaries.
They really do seem to like each other. That kind of close, collegial relationship is what the President is said to be looking for from the folks he's asking to serve in his second term (like his longtime relationship with his new Chief of Staff).
Beacool
(30,247 posts)There are only a handful of people who have reached the upper echelon of politics. Regardless of party affiliation, presidents do have many things in common and know exactly what a sitting president is going through.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)I honor her service to our country.
thucythucy
(8,048 posts)discuss issues intelligently.
By contrast, just imagine a joint interview with Mitt Romney and Joe Bolten. The horror we avoided!
Intelligent people don't hold grudges. They know how to work together for the common good.
sheshe2
(83,750 posts)I only had a chance to see part 1.
Great interview...two great people, that set aside their differences, to work together making us a stonger, safer Nation. They are partners in progress. They Respect each other, as they Respect the people of this nation.
We are all better for that.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)Hillary will be sorely missed at State. I am so proud of these two incredible leaders.
Can you even imagine what we might have had "instead?"
I love them both!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)more than the divisions between people of differing opinions. I find that inspirational. Also, they're both kind of nerdy & policy wonkish, which is cool.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)bigtree
(85,996 posts). . .