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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:38 PM Jan 2013

Georgia man shoots and kills young Latino who accidentally pulled into his driveway, police say

Source: NBC Latino

Rodrigo Diaz, 22, was driving around with his girlfriend and two friends when he pulled into a driveway, thinking they had arrived at another friend’s house, his brother says. But instead he pulled into the driveway of Phillip Sailors, 69, who thought his home was being robbed, his lawyer says. Sailors then shot Diaz, according to the police report, citing what Sailors told officers at the scene. Diaz later died while in the intensive care unit.

“Basically, what happened is they were looking for one of my brother’s girlfriend’s friends,” says his brother David E. Diaz-Valencia, 23. “The guy came outside and my brother’s girlfriend said he was screaming, ‘Get off my property!’ and he shot into the air. My brother was backing out fast because he was scared and he rolled down the window to say he was sorry and he was not doing anything wrong. Then the guy shot him in his head.”

... Police arrested Sailors, of Lilburn, Georgia, who was booked into the Gwinnett County jail Sunday afternoon and charged with murder, according to the police report.

... Sailors’ lawyer says his client is a Vietnam veteran with no prior criminal history and thought he and his wife were about to be victims of a home invasion. “You have to understand this is a 69-year-old man who is a military veteran who has been honorably discharged,” Michael Puglise says. “He dedicated his life to community service, specifically the Christian Lay Ministry in Latin America.”

Read more: http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/29/georgia-man-shoots-and-kills-young-latino-who-accidentally-pulled-into-his-driveway-police-say/

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Georgia man shoots and kills young Latino who accidentally pulled into his driveway, police say (Original Post) Newsjock Jan 2013 OP
Murder is murder; the guy never even got out of his car?? nt babylonsister Jan 2013 #1
shot him in the head? OMG Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 #2
And this is what happens marions ghost Jan 2013 #3
Oh. Well, if he was once in the Christian Lay Ministry, all's good, right? randome Jan 2013 #4
It's all OK, he's a "Good Christian"! Odin2005 Jan 2013 #35
According to the 'everyone should be armed" crowd ... earthside Jan 2013 #5
I am willing to bet the guy watches Fox all the time. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #6
"“I don’t want anything bad for him... Wait Wut Jan 2013 #7
Guns are the solution? longship Jan 2013 #8
Watch him use the Stand Your Ground defense if it's used in Georgia...n/t monmouth3 Jan 2013 #9
Sorry, serving in a war 40 years ago is no excuse to kill someone like that. Incitatus Jan 2013 #10
LIFE EarthWindFire Jan 2013 #11
How long until the gunbaggers come out with their Gadsden flags and cry "He Stood His Ground!!!"? nt backscatter712 Jan 2013 #12
How long before they start digging for dirt to smear the reputation of the deceased?? Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #16
I think most of the posters bashing Trayvon were trolls. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #36
Most were, but there are still quite a few I see here daily... Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #41
Horrific alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #13
Anyone here who defends, or tries to rationalize this should receive an automatic PPR. IMO n/t Moses2SandyKoufax Jan 2013 #15
Maybe the old man was genuinely frightened. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2013 #32
Of course he was frightened; beneath racism's hatred lies fear. eShirl Jan 2013 #39
The gun nuts are getting more and more brazen Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #14
Is Georgia a SYG state? no_hypocrisy Jan 2013 #17
Yes. n/t RebelOne Jan 2013 #22
It does not matter. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #24
I agree. I asked b/c I predict the defendant will go for SYG for a defense. no_hypocrisy Jan 2013 #33
The victim wasn't lily-white, so he thinks he can probably get away with it. Odin2005 Jan 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #18
hope he finds a way to continue his community service from prison frylock Jan 2013 #19
“You have to understand" Courtesy Flush Jan 2013 #20
Exactly - oh, and he used to do mission work, so no worries (insert vomiting noise here) hatrack Jan 2013 #26
It is not a mitigating factor. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #27
Sailors is being held on malice murder. RebelOne Jan 2013 #21
OMG. What a tragedy. So unnecessary. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #23
I guess that he was just itching to use his gun… MrScorpio Jan 2013 #25
This guy should be locked up for life. He's more dangerous than traditional criminals. Kablooie Jan 2013 #28
There will be plenty who find poor, pitiful armed Sailors the victim here. Stand your Driveway BS. Hoyt Jan 2013 #29
This country is just going insane n/t doc03 Jan 2013 #30
Mr. Sailor should have no right to own any firearms. Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #31
RW psychos! Odin2005 Jan 2013 #34
Dear defense lawyer Marrah_G Jan 2013 #37
Good guys with guns. Iggo Jan 2013 #40
A lot of these 2A-absolutists are just itching for the chance to blow away bullwinkle428 Jan 2013 #42
NRA: was the gun hurt when the police ordered him to drop it? SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #43

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
3. And this is what happens
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jan 2013

when you shoot first & ask questions later.

This is what happens when you think of your house as a fortress against invaders.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Oh. Well, if he was once in the Christian Lay Ministry, all's good, right?
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jan 2013

For one second, the only thing he dedicated his life to was to end another's.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
5. According to the 'everyone should be armed" crowd ...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jan 2013

... this will probably considered a positive development.

We are going to see a lot less mistakes from human beings if they are always afraid that they might get shot to death if they make a mistake.

So, never make a mistake.

Besides the victim of the non-home invasion was a veteran and a Christian ... so if he made a mistake it doesn't count because he doesn't have to be perfect since he is forgiven.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
7. "“I don’t want anything bad for him...
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 07:55 PM
Jan 2013

...just for him to be put in jail, he needs to pay for what he did"

From the victim's brother, who seems like a gentle forgiving soul. I wouldn't be.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. Guns are the solution?
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:02 PM
Jan 2013

Fuck the gunsels! Put them back into the gungeon where they belong.

Sick of this shit. DU is turning into NRA when so many threads are about their precious guns.

Gollum!

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
10. Sorry, serving in a war 40 years ago is no excuse to kill someone like that.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:06 PM
Jan 2013

May you spend the rest of your life in jail.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
16. How long before they start digging for dirt to smear the reputation of the deceased??
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 08:46 PM
Jan 2013

I hope to the gods that Diaz doesn't have so much as a speeding ticket on his criminal record...

(I saw that stunt play out last year in disgusting fashion for another high-profile case, and I'll still never forgive the DUers who took part in it)

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
32. Maybe the old man was genuinely frightened.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:29 AM
Jan 2013

That doesn't excuse his actions. The murder charges are appropriate.

Should I be tombstoned?

I really don't like the totalitarian impulse.

eShirl

(18,491 posts)
39. Of course he was frightened; beneath racism's hatred lies fear.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:45 AM
Jan 2013

Just a typical scared-shitless racist with a gun.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
24. It does not matter.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jan 2013

Before you can claim SYG, you first have to claim self defense. In this case, the self defense claim will not hold.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
38. The victim wasn't lily-white, so he thinks he can probably get away with it.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:43 AM
Jan 2013

Look at all the RW assholes defending George Zimmerman.

Response to Newsjock (Original post)

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
20. “You have to understand"
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jan 2013
“You have to understand this is a 69-year-old man who is a military veteran who has been honorably discharged,”


How is that a mitigating factor? Serve your country, get a pass on shooting people. Where's the logic in this?

hatrack

(59,585 posts)
26. Exactly - oh, and he used to do mission work, so no worries (insert vomiting noise here)
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jan 2013

Unbelievable. Stupid, paranoid, heavily armed fucking MORONS everywhere.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. There will be plenty who find poor, pitiful armed Sailors the victim here. Stand your Driveway BS.
Tue Jan 29, 2013, 09:35 PM
Jan 2013

Gungeoneers will say Sailors should be charged with murder, but none will say we need to take steps to stop the problems we have with guns. Nope, convict those who shoot someone like this, but do nothing to try and stop the next law-abiding gun owner who goes rogue (perhaps because of medications, age, mental health, etc., beyond their control for most part).

In fact, as long as they have theirs (and all they can acquire), they could not care less about how others view the issue. To appease the members of gun culture, I know not all of them, but a big bunch are like that.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
37. Dear defense lawyer
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:43 AM
Jan 2013

Being a veteran and a christian does not give your client a right to murder a young man. ESPECIALLY one who was backing away from him.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
42. A lot of these 2A-absolutists are just itching for the chance to blow away
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jan 2013

someone with more pigmentation at the slightest opportunity. Just look at all of the CSA/white supremacy/Nazi shit present at gun shows.

I hope this fucker spends the rest of his life in prison.

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