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cash__whatiwant

(396 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:43 AM Jan 2013

49ers’ Culliver Aplogizes For ‘Gay Players Not Welcome’ Remarks

NEW ORLEANS (CBS SF) – San Francisco 49ers cornerback Chris Culliver apologized Wednesday evening for homophobic remarks he made during a Super Bowl media day interview.

“The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. It has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience,” he said in a statement released through the 49ers organization.

The NFL has never had an openly gay active player, but if there was one, Culliver had said in the interview that he wouldn’t want that player on his team.

Yahoo! Sports posted an excerpt online of the Tuesday interview between Culliver and comedian-shock jock Artie Lange, who began by asking Culliver if he’s been approached by homosexuals.

“Nah, I don’t do the gay guys, man … I don’t do that,” said Culliver.

Lange then asked if there were any homosexual players were on the 49ers.

“No, we don’t got no gay people on the team,” said Culliver. “They gotta get up out of here if they do.”

Lange asked Culliver to reiterate his thoughts, to which the player said, “It’s true.” He added he wouldn’t welcome a gay teammate – no matter how talented.

“Can’t be with that sweet stuff,” continued Culliver. “Nah… can’t be… in the locker room man. Nah.”

When Lange asked Culliver whether any gay players would need to keep their sexual preferences a secret, Culliver said: “Yeah, come out 10 years later after that.”

more: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/01/30/49ers-cornerback-chris-culliver-gays-not-welcome/

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49ers’ Culliver Aplogizes For ‘Gay Players Not Welcome’ Remarks (Original Post) cash__whatiwant Jan 2013 OP
Sounds like another fucker who Zoeisright Jan 2013 #1
Yeah, what the fuck ever. Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #2
Not SF 49ers material. Dumbass phobe should be traded to the Chiefs an hour before the SuperBowl. nt Zorra Jan 2013 #3
We're supposed to believe the brilliant mind that said, "No, we don’t got no gay people on the team" Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #4
Exactly. And if He Were Hooked to a Lie Detector at the Time He Said it the Needles Would Have... dballance Jan 2013 #7
They not only wrote the statement for him, they also sent it to the press directly. Lone_Star_Dem Jan 2013 #8
That Makes Sense. It's Clear from the Earlier Interview dballance Jan 2013 #11
PR move kwolf68 Jan 2013 #12
So, a SAN FRANCISCO 49er Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #5
do tell us what the irony is CreekDog Jan 2013 #6
I see the irony. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2013 #18
He probably has played with gay players who must hide themselves and their loved ones lunasun Jan 2013 #9
As Usual, In the Comments to the Article There is This: dballance Jan 2013 #10
+1 MrSlayer Jan 2013 #13
I went back to the site to see if anyone replied to me - they had deleted it. dballance Jan 2013 #14
They deleted it again. So much for free speech on a TV news site. /eom dballance Jan 2013 #15
Probably reported by the homophobes on there sakabatou Jan 2013 #20
why would they delete that? d_r Jan 2013 #26
I Thought it Was Rather Clear Given the Context (Maybe They're Using Automated Software to Censor) dballance Jan 2013 #28
but the comment you were replying to is still there? wow. nt cash__whatiwant Jan 2013 #29
Apologies are for children. He's a grown man. Iggo Jan 2013 #16
Apologies are for children? That must play hell in your relationships. villager Jan 2013 #17
I don't need an apology from a grown up. Iggo Jan 2013 #24
Well, apologies are part of ownership of the fuck-up; the making amends villager Jan 2013 #25
That is one of the more RudynJack Jan 2013 #19
Says it a day before Jackie Robinsons birthday. trumad Jan 2013 #21
Maybe "no gay players" meant only gay teammates w/strong family values in committed relationships Bucky Jan 2013 #22
I'm a Niners fan and was disappointed with what he said the other day davidpdx Jan 2013 #23
So, I wonder what he really believes? Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #27
I believed him more the first statments. This sounds like bullshit.... TeamPooka Jan 2013 #30

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
1. Sounds like another fucker who
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:46 AM
Jan 2013

has been hit in the head too much. Plus he's incredibly ignorant; can't put a coherent sentence together.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
4. We're supposed to believe the brilliant mind that said, "No, we don’t got no gay people on the team"
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:56 AM
Jan 2013

Actually made this statement, "The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel. It has taken me seeing them in print to realize that they are hurtful and ugly. Those discriminating feelings are truly not in my heart. Further, I apologize to those who I have hurt and offended, and I pledge to learn and grow from this experience."

If you buy that I've got a really nice bridge to sell you, at a steal of a deal. It just happens to be in the bay area, too!

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
7. Exactly. And if He Were Hooked to a Lie Detector at the Time He Said it the Needles Would Have...
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:18 AM
Jan 2013

broken because they'd have been scrawling all over the paper. I don't believe for one minute he meant or believed anything he said in that apology.

Team publicist wrote it for him to say. I wonder how long it took for him to be able to memorize it.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
8. They not only wrote the statement for him, they also sent it to the press directly.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:29 AM
Jan 2013

They didn't want to risk an actual presser where he might ask a reporter what 'derogatory' means.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
11. That Makes Sense. It's Clear from the Earlier Interview
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:46 AM
Jan 2013

he can't put together a grammatically correct sentence. So it would be a very high risk to their damage control efforts to actually let him speak or be asked further questions.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
6. do tell us what the irony is
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:03 AM
Jan 2013

clearly there can't be any homophobes in San Francisco since there are so many gay people here.

or does that sound stupid now that i've put what you were implying in print?

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
18. I see the irony.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:16 AM
Jan 2013

Of course there are homophobes in SF. However, it also has a huge and active gay population. That isn't the case in a lot of places.
That he would make that statement while playing in that city is ironic.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
9. He probably has played with gay players who must hide themselves and their loved ones
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:37 AM
Jan 2013

from bigots like this if they want to continue in a sport they love and have a talent for.

He is not sorry and the idiot did not write that apology
His team's PR unit is sorry but not for the correct reason imo

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
10. As Usual, In the Comments to the Article There is This:
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:44 AM
Jan 2013

"why do people have to apologize for having morals that are sustained in their religious beliefs?"

So, not being able to stop myself I replied:

Because an NFL football team is anything but a religious organization. So there is no basis whatsoever for discriminating against a gay player and not wanting them to be on the team. He's welcome to his beliefs, morals and religion. He's not welcome to insist a secular organization follow them. If a gay player joins the team he's free to resign from the team if it offends his morals or if he's under the delusion that just because he's another male all gay men want him so he can't be in the locker room with them.

Perhaps Culliver should familiarize himself with history and remember it wasn't all that long ago white players would have said the same sorts of things about having him on the team.

So his ability to forget the still recent (and continuing) discrimination of African Americans and be able to feel free to demean gays for "that sweet stuff" is just as bad as when whites stereotyped African Americans as "shucking and jiving."

That's why he needs to apologize.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
14. I went back to the site to see if anyone replied to me - they had deleted it.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:55 AM
Jan 2013

So I just posted it again since I could copy and paste from here. I'll see if they delete it again.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
26. why would they delete that?
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jan 2013

probably the allusion to shuck and jive - you weren't trying to be racist, you were trying to make a point, but it was probably interpreted as racist.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
28. I Thought it Was Rather Clear Given the Context (Maybe They're Using Automated Software to Censor)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jan 2013

I wasn't endorsing or using the phrase "shucking and jiving" as part of my post but as an analogy to the disparaging remark Culliver made.

However you may be correct. They could very likely have automated software monitoring the posts with a list of banned phrases like that one. That type of software might not be able to discern the context as it blindly deletes posts with banned words or phrases. Now that I think about it I wonder if I threw some spaces or asterisks in there if the post would stay. I might try that.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
17. Apologies are for children? That must play hell in your relationships.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:24 AM
Jan 2013

I mean, I know Hunter S. Thompson used to say "never apologize," but still....

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
24. I don't need an apology from a grown up.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:23 AM
Jan 2013

What I need is for them to either not fuck up in the first place, or if as in this case they already have fucked up, to admit they fucked up, fix it, and try not to do it again. Apologies are next to useless. They're what we make children do so that they learn their lesson. Other than that, they do no real good. Amends, however, are real. You fuck up, you fix it. I don't need to hear how sorry you are.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
25. Well, apologies are part of ownership of the fuck-up; the making amends
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:10 PM
Jan 2013

But hey, if you don't need 'em, ever, good on you...

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
23. I'm a Niners fan and was disappointed with what he said the other day
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:14 AM
Jan 2013

Also given that it's the week before the Superbowl, the guy should have just kept his trap shut as he's a distraction to his team.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
27. So, I wonder what he really believes?
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jan 2013

The off-the-cuff comments that he made in the locker room? Or the carefully worded "apology" that was no doubt meticulously crafted by a PR team in a damage limitation attempt?

TeamPooka

(24,223 posts)
30. I believed him more the first statments. This sounds like bullshit....
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:17 PM
Jan 2013

“The derogatory comments I made yesterday were a reflection of thoughts in my head, but they are not how I feel."
Then why did you say them and why are they in your head?

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