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dkf

(37,305 posts)
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:23 PM Feb 2013

“Burkas for babies”: Saudi cleric’s new fatwa causes controversy

A Saudi cleric has called for all female babies to be fully covered by wearing the face veil, commonly known as the burka, citing reports of little girls being sexually molested.

In a TV interview on the Islamic al-Majd TV, which seems to date back to mid-last year, Sheikh Abdullah Daoud, stressed that wearing the veil will protect baby girls. The Sheikh tried to back his assertion with claims of sexual molestation against babies in the kingdom, quoting unnamed medical and security sources.

Recently picked up on social media, Sheikh Dauod’s statement prompted wide condemnation from his fellow Saudis on Twitter. Some tweeps called for the Sheikh to be held accountable because his ruling denigrates Islam and breaches individual privacy.

Sheikh Mohammad al-Jzlana, former judge at the Saudi Board of Grievances, told Al Arabiya that Dauod’s ruling was denigrating to Islam and Shariah and made Islam look bad.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2013/02/03/264031.html

Glad to see some sane Saudis are telling this guy how crazy that statement is.

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“Burkas for babies”: Saudi cleric’s new fatwa causes controversy (Original Post) dkf Feb 2013 OP
It just gets worse doesn't it? Cleita Feb 2013 #1
REALLY concealed carry, I guess.. . . n/t annabanana Feb 2013 #12
Really? I don't think concealed carry would constitute a militia. Cleita Feb 2013 #13
I'm just saying that in this case annabanana Feb 2013 #15
Well that would be a guerilla army, not a bad idea in certain circumstances, but I'm more in Cleita Feb 2013 #16
gotcha.. but how annabanana Feb 2013 #17
It will be up to these women to do it for themselves or for women in Cleita Feb 2013 #18
But no crazier than requiring older females to tblue37 Feb 2013 #2
That is exactly it etherealtruth Feb 2013 #4
+1 thanks (nt) enough Feb 2013 #7
+ 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 n/t MANative Feb 2013 #11
Yep gollygee Feb 2013 #14
Maybe if they had harsher penalties than those allowed Arkansas Granny Feb 2013 #3
peculiar how men are not required to wear any of this stuff nt msongs Feb 2013 #5
This is wrong on so many levels... riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #6
They are becoming the GOP Politicalboi Feb 2013 #8
Yes. Blaming perversion on victims. That sounds like the GOP. nt bluestate10 Feb 2013 #10
He's nuts. 840high Feb 2013 #9
OK. This right here is just really fucked up. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #19

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
1. It just gets worse doesn't it?
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:28 PM
Feb 2013

How do the women in those places fight the men? With all this talk of guns for protection, which I'm not in favor of because it creates a fictional security that isn't true, in this country, I would be in favor of arming all the women of those backwards countries into a real trained militia to fight the men who so blatantly take their human rights and humanity from them.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
13. Really? I don't think concealed carry would constitute a militia.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 05:16 PM
Feb 2013

I'm talking of trained armies of women to protect themselves and others from the men who would gang rape them, set them on fire, honor kill them and any number of abuses these women endure endlessly at the hands of the men in those countries where women are considered property. I think they would think twice if confronted with trained female soldiers who are protecting the women they have abused. It's not always wrong to pick up arms in a just cause. I just don't see any reason for us in the USA to carry guns for some imagined need for protection.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
16. Well that would be a guerilla army, not a bad idea in certain circumstances, but I'm more in
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 05:22 PM
Feb 2013

favor of the women of those countries openly showing their strengths and that strength has to be not only in numbers but also in fighting power. That fighting power would include weaponry.

annabanana

(52,802 posts)
17. gotcha.. but how
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 05:28 PM
Feb 2013

to get there? Especially when it is so deeply ingrained in the culture?

Think we have a "blame the victim" mentality here? ("She shouldn't have been out alone/dressed like that/at night" etc.)

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
18. It will be up to these women to do it for themselves or for women in
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 05:35 PM
Feb 2013

neighboring more advanced countries to help those who want change to get there. Remember the Abu Ghraib woman General, I believe her name was Janice Karpinsky? She wrote in her book about training women as soldiers in one of the Arab Emirate countries. I forget which one. The wife of one of the Sheiks wanted a trained women's army because when the regular army went to war in other countries, there was no one at home to protect them and she thought the women could then be mobilized if needed to fight an invasion. I've never heard anything about it since then, but it could be a start in one of the more advanced countries like that one and they could probably train refugees from other countries to go home and start something there.

tblue37

(68,216 posts)
2. But no crazier than requiring older females to
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:28 PM
Feb 2013

be invisible behind robes and veils. In both cases, the girl child or woman is held responsible for the man's inability to behave like a human being with even the slightest control over his urge to hump anything female.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
4. That is exactly it
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:36 PM
Feb 2013

Females are held accountable for any deviant act perpetrated against them!

Arkansas Granny

(32,264 posts)
3. Maybe if they had harsher penalties than those allowed
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:35 PM
Feb 2013

by their laws, it might act as a better deterrent. See this story which is on DU front page:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022304607

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
6. This is wrong on so many levels...
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:40 PM
Feb 2013




I don't even know where to START to address the cultural deformity of this type of Islam without ruining my perfectly good mood right now. Just grotesque thought processes, attitudes, culture and wrong on every level.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
8. They are becoming the GOP
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:18 PM
Feb 2013

Somebody should tell them they are embarrassing themselves. To quote Paul Ryan, "Rape is another way of conception" that's all.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. OK. This right here is just really fucked up.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 09:41 PM
Feb 2013

I'm sorry but I happen to think that Islam is even more f-ed up than Christianity.

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