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Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:04 PM Jan 2012

Girl living on a diet of Chicken McNuggets for 15 years nearly dies.

http://www.geekosystem.com/chicken-nugget-diet/


17-year-old Stacey Irvine of Castle Vale, Birmingham was living the dream until just recently; she’d been subsisting on a diet primarily composed of McDonald’s chicken nuggets, sometimes — but rarely — straying from the staple for some KFC or a piece of toast. Just recently, however, it all caught up to her when she had trouble breathing and collapsed. She was taken to the hospital where doctors found swollen blood vessels in her tongue and the prescense of anaemia and promptly loaded her up with vitamins. Considering she has had neither fruit nor vegetable — outside of ketchup, maybe — in 15 years, it’s a small miracle she didn’t also have scurvy.

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Now in the article it is said that her other siblings eat a more sensable diet. THIS TIME I have to say to the mother. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?! You are raising other kids who know what fruit and veggies are as well as other food SO why couldn't you put your foot down and not give in to the FREAKIN diet of nuggets.

I mean I understand kids going thru phases. My niece is going thru a phase right now where she won't eat Tomato or Tomato base products BUT my sister makes sure she gets her other vitamins and gets her to eat other veggies and what not!


How the freak much did this woman going to McDonalds everyday to get her daughter nuggests 2 or 3 times a day 365 for15 years.
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Girl living on a diet of Chicken McNuggets for 15 years nearly dies. (Original Post) Justice wanted Jan 2012 OP
dupe thread Electric Monk Jan 2012 #1
self delete snagglepuss Jan 2012 #4
It's also clearly a horseshit story. TheWraith Jan 2012 #10
15 out of 17 years is a long phase. nt Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #2
Obsessive-Compulsive disorder? n/t Ian David Jan 2012 #3
Words fail me. virgogal Jan 2012 #5
me too. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #11
Perhaps Ketchup is more of a veggie than we might realize.... FrenchieCat Jan 2012 #6
It may have helped her avoid scurvy Nikia Jan 2012 #18
I hold the mother to blame. She is the one who catered to the child, enabling this snagglepuss Jan 2012 #7
I have a different view. phylny Jan 2012 #8
The thing I don't get here... midnight armadillo Jan 2012 #15
but shouldn't they have made sure she got the vitamins , through drink or pills ? JI7 Jan 2012 #16
About the Ketchup: Neoma Jan 2012 #9
wonder what her cholesterol levels are Marnie Jan 2012 #12
Most likely they are normal Major Nikon Jan 2012 #14
That was from 1975. Here's a newer one Liquorice Jan 2012 #21
I'm not sure how those studies are more relevant and they appear to be considerably less relevant Major Nikon Jan 2012 #22
I didn't say that the study you posted was outdated. I wrote Liquorice Jan 2012 #23
The question is not how are your studies relevant to what I wrote Major Nikon Jan 2012 #24
I hear college rumors... backscatter712 Jan 2012 #13
Geekosystem... Where smart people get their news! cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #17
Girl living on a diet of steamed kale for 15 years nearly dies. XemaSab Jan 2012 #19
I had a Filet-o-Fish tonight, and I've got a belly ache. trackfan Jan 2012 #20

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
10. It's also clearly a horseshit story.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:40 PM
Jan 2012

One, the source is the Daily Mail.

Two, it's clearly been grossly exaggerated for shock value, since you COULDN'T live exclusively on chicken nuggets.

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
6. Perhaps Ketchup is more of a veggie than we might realize....
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:23 PM
Jan 2012

15 years as the sole veggie/fruit in her diet and she's still alive?

Nikia

(11,411 posts)
18. It may have helped her avoid scurvy
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:35 AM
Jan 2012

Although she may have been drinking some kind of fruit drink with vitamin C also. I think that the McDonald's "Orange Drink" has vitamin C.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
7. I hold the mother to blame. She is the one who catered to the child, enabling this
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:24 PM
Jan 2012

behavior. A mother would have to be utterly detached to be so passive. What i find odd is how healthy the girl looks.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
8. I have a different view.
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:31 PM
Jan 2012

This teenager has a feeding disorder. It's not the mother's fault. Many doctors (and others) say, just give them other food, they won't starve.

She needs a feeding clinic and therapy to desensitize her so that she can consume a better, more normal diet. I am a speech-language pathologist and work with children (mostly kids on the autism spectrum, but others too) with this same difficulty.

Please try not to judge the girl or her family too hard. Feeding disorders are serious business, and very difficult to deal with.

midnight armadillo

(3,612 posts)
15. The thing I don't get here...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 11:51 PM
Jan 2012

...is how the family didn't seek help sooner, instead of living with and enabling the eating disorder for 15 years. They're in the UK, they have access to the NHS, and at least in my medical insurance imagination that should mean they could have gotten some sort of medical help sooner. Like maybe after a month or three of a McNugget diet for a 2 year old when it's clear her reaction to any other food has gotten f'd up.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
9. About the Ketchup:
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:32 PM
Jan 2012

There's a type of banana that grows in India that is substituted for Ketchup. Maybe she had some of that too?

 

Marnie

(844 posts)
12. wonder what her cholesterol levels are
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 09:47 PM
Jan 2012

considering that fried food was her major nourishment.

What in the hell were her parents doing all this time?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
14. Most likely they are normal
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 10:31 PM
Jan 2012

Diet certainly affects cholesterol levels, but not to the extent most people think.

Nutrient intake and serum cholesterol level in normal children 6 to 16 years of age.
Weidman WH, Elveback LR, Nelson RA, Hodgson PA, Ellefson RD.

Abstract

A study of 103 healthy, white schoolchildren who were between 6 and 16 years of age revealed no positive correlation between the level of serum cholesterol and the mean daily amount of total calories, cholesterol, fat, saturated fat, or sugar in the diet.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/205827

Liquorice

(2,066 posts)
21. That was from 1975. Here's a newer one
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:11 AM
Jan 2012

that is much more updated:

Previous national dietary guidelines primarily emphasized avoiding saturated fat and cholesterol; as a result, the guidelines probably underestimated the potential LDL cholesterol-lowering effect of diet. In this study, emphasis on including nutrient-dense plant-based foods, consistent with recently revised national guidelines, increased the total and LDL cholesterol-lowering effect of a low-fat diet.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15867404

Here'a another interesting study about the subject:

Vegetarians had significantly lower serum cholesterol, high-density and low-density lipoprotein, and glucose compared with omnivores. They also had lower vitamin B12 but higher homocysteine levels. Serum levels of lipoprotein (a) and high-sensitivity C-reactive protein were no different between the two groups.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21915169

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. I'm not sure how those studies are more relevant and they appear to be considerably less relevant
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 04:11 AM
Jan 2012

First of all, studies don't become outdated. They simply produce data that is either relevant or a particular situation or it isn't. New studies might build on older studies by exploring areas not previously considered, but that doesn't mean the older study is now worthless. As long as the study was conducted using sound scientific methods, the data is valid indefinitely unless invalidated by an identical study performed on a larger population.

The first study you posted was for adults, not children, who already had high LDL levels. This is hardly relevant to the general population, and even less relevant to children who are in the general population.

The second study you posted concerns post menopausal vegetarians compared to post menopausal non-vegetarians. As far as I can tell, no effort was made to account for socio-economics. Vegetarians tend to be more health conscious. They tend to exercise more and tend to belong to more affluent levels of society. There may be dozens of other socio-economic factors that come into play as well. These factors are very significant. I can point to studies done on tribes in Africa that eat nothing other than meat and high fat milk which have very low LDL levels. I have an extremely low LDL level. I'm not a vegetarian and never have been. There's a lot to LDL other than just diet.

Liquorice

(2,066 posts)
23. I didn't say that the study you posted was outdated. I wrote
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:07 AM
Jan 2012

that the study I posted was updated. How are the studies I posted relevant to your post? You wrote that diet doesn't have as much to do with cholesterol levels as people think. The studies I posted show that diet does indeed have a lot to do with it, more than you apparently think it does. One study done 37 years ago does not mean much in the larger scheme of things. It certainly doesn't prove anything. Children aren't altogether different creatures than adults and they can and do develop high cholesterol from bad diets, just like adults.

I'm a vegan. I was very poor growing up, and am not affluent now. Of course I have a very good cholesterol level, and that is because of my diet. I hate exercise, by the way, and couldn't exercise for a year because of an injury. My cholesterol levels are still good. When a friend of mine, a vegetarian, started eating eggs every morning because he read that eating all that cholesterol wouldn't hurt him and it was all a big myth, his cholesterol skyrocketed to 240. He immediately stopped eating eggs completely and was retested recently. He's now at 170. It certainly had everything to do with his diet.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
24. The question is not how are your studies relevant to what I wrote
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:15 PM
Jan 2012

The question is how relevant are those studies to the actual girl in question and I explained in pretty good detail why they weren't. To fixate on a very small part of what I said then completely misinterpret it seems disingenuous.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
13. I hear college rumors...
Fri Jan 27, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jan 2012

of that one kid who spent his semester's food money on booze, and tried to subsist on nothing but ramen, and ended up getting scurvy...

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
17. Geekosystem... Where smart people get their news!
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:31 AM
Jan 2012

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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
19. Girl living on a diet of steamed kale for 15 years nearly dies.
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:39 AM
Jan 2012

Girl living on a diet of tofu for 15 years nearly dies.

Girl living on a diet of sushi for 15 years nearly dies.

Girl living on a diet of butternut squash for 15 years nearly dies.



Much as I think chicken mcnuggets are nasty, a diet of ANYTHING for 15 years could and should be lethal.

We're omnivores. We evolved to eat a varied diet, and we need a varied diet.

Hell, here's a story about a crazy cult in Marin that killed a baby through malnutrition:

http://www.sfweekly.com/2004-10-13/news/death-in-the-family/

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