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alp227

(32,027 posts)
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:39 PM Feb 2013

Baltimore Sun critic calls MSNBC "worse than Fox" and an "organ of state propaganda"

(Found via drudge ReTORT) David Zurawik of the Baltimore Sun writes:

MSNBC has long been as bad as Fox News when it comes to ideological bias. But with the hiring of longtime Team Obama loyalists David Axelrod and Robert Gibbs, it’s official: MSNBC is worse.

The cable channel that flies under the banner of NBC News is now all but a bona fide organ of state propaganda, an information channel that speaks in the same dominant voice as the folks running the government -- and tries to mask what it is up to.


Citing as example:

Mitchell started out a remote interview with Axelrod, who was in Chicago, by asking about the sequester set to take effect Friday.

“Remember,” he says, “the cuts put into place were so odious it was thought no rational legislator, no rational government official, would allow it to happen.”

As Mitchell starts to pivot to another issue with a new question, Axelrod interrupts her with, “One more thing, Andrea. There is a belief among some Republicans in Congress that maybe this sequester’s all right. Maybe this is another way of shrinking government in a dramatic way. That’s a dangerous idea, but it’s not uncommon in some quarters on Capitol Hill.”
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Baltimore Sun critic calls MSNBC "worse than Fox" and an "organ of state propaganda" (Original Post) alp227 Feb 2013 OP
never liked MSNBC quinnox Feb 2013 #1
What does the "Fox News of the Left" sound like? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #8
Really? CNN has very little value. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #13
maybe he should watch dead intern Joe rurallib Feb 2013 #2
Yeah, get some of his kind of perspective. Cha Feb 2013 #15
Need to look at writer Narraback Feb 2013 #3
Guess This Shitstain Conveniently Forgot... KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #4
This might tell us more about the Baltimore Sun than MSNBC. nt BootinUp Feb 2013 #5
Ha! City Lights Feb 2013 #18
Bullshit Mr. Zurawik: think Feb 2013 #6
Zurawik's been attacking MSNBC and suggesting Fox is better for years. highplainsdem Feb 2013 #7
Key difference BainsBane Feb 2013 #9
Ex-actly. Cha Feb 2013 #16
Fox has hell of a lot more than two former Bush Administration officials on the payroll. Marr Feb 2013 #10
Fox, CNN, MSNBC Vattel Feb 2013 #11
Fox lies. MSNBC just ignores the most important issues of the day. limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #12
15 hours a week hosted by a republican Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #14
I agree with the "worse than Fox" part, but for a very different reason Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #17
Is there really an equivalent to Sean Hannity on MSNBC? fujiyama Feb 2013 #19
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
1. never liked MSNBC
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:41 PM
Feb 2013

I agree they seem to be the Fox news of the left. When I used to watch cable news on a regular basis, CNN was my go to channel. I don't watch cable news much anymore though.

LiberalFighter

(50,943 posts)
13. Really? CNN has very little value.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:05 AM
Feb 2013

For me it MSNBC, NPR, or CSPAN. I change CBS nightly when that pos Pelley is on.

And CNN slams Michelle Obama at the Oscars?

Narraback

(648 posts)
3. Need to look at writer
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:58 PM
Feb 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Zurawik

"Zurawik is a frequent guest on the CNN’s public affairs talk show “Reliable Sources",[3]” He has also appeared on Fox News shows such as “The O’Reilly Factor” and “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren.”

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
4. Guess This Shitstain Conveniently Forgot...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:02 PM
Feb 2013

...besides Joey, they have Mikie Steele...former RNC Chairman and Steve Schmidt...Grump McQueeg's campaign manager as paid contributors. Faux has Kucinich and ???? (have no clue I don't watch newsporn).

I used to see this dude when I used to watch Chicken Noodle Nuze. He'd be on with Whorie Kurtz and constantly bash Keith Olbermann. Guess he wasn't good enough to work at one of Rupert's bird cage liners...yet he keeps trying...

highplainsdem

(49,001 posts)
7. Zurawik's been attacking MSNBC and suggesting Fox is better for years.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:47 PM
Feb 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x257148

Anyone who's called Fox News "one of the leading journalistic institutions in the country" and praised Sean Hannity as "charismatic" is obviously too biased to ever be considered at all credible as a TV critic.
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
10. Fox has hell of a lot more than two former Bush Administration officials on the payroll.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:53 PM
Feb 2013

So I fail to see how Gibbs and Axelrod could make MSNBC "worse".

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
14. 15 hours a week hosted by a republican
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:07 AM
Feb 2013

Last edited Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:47 AM - Edit history (1)

If Fox has the equivalent, I'd like to know about it.

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
17. I agree with the "worse than Fox" part, but for a very different reason
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:14 AM
Feb 2013

They have honestly left leaning hosts, but they also only allow them to go only so far. They don't tell them what to say. They *do* tell them what *not* to say.

I have said a lot about this over the years and don't have enough energy to say much more right now.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
19. Is there really an equivalent to Sean Hannity on MSNBC?
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:19 AM
Feb 2013

Really for as far crazy left leaning as people claim they are, the major hosts aren't all that wild eyed - are Ed and Racheal really that extreme? I don't think even Al Sharpton for all his controversy of the past is that far out there...

I haven't watched the channel in a while since I haven't owned a TV in sometime, but Rachael always sounded intelligent, rational, and pretty reasonavle. Ed was a bit grating for me, but I heard nothing that out of the mainstream from him.

As for Axelrod and Gibbs being on the channel, so what? Rove is a contributor on Fox as well as many others from the Bush administration. MSNBC is not funded by the government. It's a private entity. If he doesn't like it, he can change the fucking channel.

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