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Are_grits_groceries

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Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:57 AM Feb 2013

"Infantile Conservatism" By Pat Buchanan (Good lawd.The world might end.)

"Infantile Conservatism" By Pat Buchanan
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"With regard to Afghanistan, the president is pulling up stakes prematurely," says Rubin. As we are now in the 12th year of war in Afghanistan, and about to leave thousands of troops behind when we depart in 2014, what is she talking about?

"In Iraq, the absence of U.S. forces on the ground has ushered in a new round of sectarian violence and opened the door for Iran's growing violence."

Where to begin. Shia Iran has influence in Iraq because we invaded Iraq, dethroned Sunni Saddam, disbanded his Sunni-led army that had defeated Iran in an eight-year war and presided over the rise to power of the Iraqi Shia majority that now tilts to Iran.

Today's Iraq is a direct consequence of our war, our invasion, our occupation. That's our crowd in Baghdad, cozying up to Iran.

And the cost of that war to strip Iraq of weapons it did not have? Four thousand five hundred American dead, 35,000 wounded, $1 trillion and 100,000 Iraqi dead. Half a million widows and orphans. A centuries-old Christian community ravaged. And, yes, an Iraq tilting to Iran and descending into sectarian, civil and ethnic war. A disaster of epochal proportions.

But that disaster was not the doing of Barack Obama, but of people of the same semi-hysterical mindset as Ms. Rubin.

She writes that for the rest of Obama's term, we "are going to have to rely on France, Israel, our superb (albeit underfunded) military and plain old luck to prevent national security catastrophes."

Is she serious?
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/02/26/infantile_conservatism__117165.html

I generally agree with him.
I have to go lay down for a while.


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"Infantile Conservatism" By Pat Buchanan (Good lawd.The world might end.) (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Feb 2013 OP
We have lost in Afghanistan... a friend just got back from there JCMach1 Feb 2013 #1

JCMach1

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1. We have lost in Afghanistan... a friend just got back from there
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:45 AM
Feb 2013

I can't say which base (I don't want to get him in trouble), but they are shot at and mortared by the Taliban every night... and, the casualties continue for no reason at all.

Iraq, much the same... we have left nothing there but bodies in Arlington and cemeteries across our country.

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