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gateley

(62,683 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:08 PM Feb 2013

Talking head on MSNBC just said with Hagel's "less than stellar" showing at the hearing,

it will be tough for him to get legs.

But even Obama admits he had a "less than stellar" debut, and he came roaring back.

I hope Hagel does the same!

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Talking head on MSNBC just said with Hagel's "less than stellar" showing at the hearing, (Original Post) gateley Feb 2013 OP
Those assholes are trying to ProSense Feb 2013 #1
I agree. They are always trying to write a script and hope Cleita Feb 2013 #2
Oh, hell, he did well enough for a guy who looked like he hadn't slept TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #3
I really hate those morons. BlueStreak Feb 2013 #4
And just for the record, I have been saying all along Hagel would get BlueStreak Feb 2013 #8
Er..58 is the actual vote to confirm. It's over. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #10
OK. A few backed off after the cloture. BlueStreak Feb 2013 #14
Really, they had to filibuster Hagel to try to get dirt on him, because he TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #9
Eating their own can't be good for an already fractured party BlueStreak Feb 2013 #15
Who's the idiot who said that? Archae Feb 2013 #5
Don't know -- think I've seen him before but didn't catch his name. gateley Feb 2013 #12
It was Peter Beinart n/t slor Feb 2013 #20
Hagel's hearing was a sham AndyA Feb 2013 #6
God I'd have loved to have seen him go "hell yes it was a mistake!" -- I think the MAJORITY of the gateley Feb 2013 #13
Chuck Hagel was stuck in that chair for around 8 hours... nenagh Feb 2013 #7
Much like Obama's debate, though, it's the story in the media afterward that becomes the gateley Feb 2013 #11
Exactly... nenagh Feb 2013 #18
Any talking heads noted the irony that Repukes were against another Repuke? joeybee12 Feb 2013 #16
With Hagel holding the Pentagon purse-strings, I think he'll have strong enough legs. Zen Democrat Feb 2013 #17
Hagel is extremely pro Veteran thelordofhell Feb 2013 #19

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. I agree. They are always trying to write a script and hope
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:12 PM
Feb 2013

people will believe that their fiction is really true.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. Oh, hell, he did well enough for a guy who looked like he hadn't slept
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:14 PM
Feb 2013

in a week. It was all inside baseball designed to placate Democrats in the Senate and not make any mistakes.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
4. I really hate those morons.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:15 PM
Feb 2013

(the Beltway talking heads)

What was wrong with Hagel's testimony? I didn't watch every minute of it, but everything I saw seemed Ok. it seemed he made a good faith attempt to answer every legitimate question and his answers seemed thoughtful and mostly within the mainstream.

What would these media jerks call a great performance? If he had challenged McCain to a duel, is that what they are looking for?

I really really hate these people, including most of the MSNBC ones. With very rare exceptions they seem completely incapable of discussing real issues and only seem to be able to comment about the atmospherics.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
8. And just for the record, I have been saying all along Hagel would get
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:20 PM
Feb 2013

75 votes. I'm not sure anybody believed me.

This has all been Kabuki theater. There was never any serious doubt about this nomination.

He got 71 votes in the cloture vote. I bet he clears 75 in the actual vote.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
14. OK. A few backed off after the cloture.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:38 PM
Feb 2013

That is a time-honored chicken-bleep trick to try to have it both ways. They can claim to have voted for him or against him, depending on the situation.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
9. Really, they had to filibuster Hagel to try to get dirt on him, because he
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:21 PM
Feb 2013

made it through that eight-hour episode of Ted "Carnival" Cruz playing surprise excerpts of an old Al Jazeera interview out of context, Lindsey Graham telling him Hagel's attitude toward Israel "made his hair stand on end", Jim Inhofe accusing Hagel of consorting with the enemy (Iran), among other things. Hagel never got pissed or took the bait, just shut down. Apparently it worked, because he's Secretary Hagel now.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
15. Eating their own can't be good for an already fractured party
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:40 PM
Feb 2013

I don't see the upside here for any Republican voting against Hagel --except for the crazies who think they are untouchable as long as they just keep looking insane.

Every one of them is spending most of their waking hours looking over their shoulders now, expecting to get a knife in the back at any moment.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
6. Hagel's hearing was a sham
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:16 PM
Feb 2013

Asking questions about Benghazi--really--Chuck Hagel was a private citizen at that time, not privy to any information other than what anyone else knew. (Perhaps a bud from Congress clued him in, but he wasn't in any official capacity at the time to provide much insight.)

And McCain...back to Iraq...over and over again. What a steaming pile McCain is.

I think Hagel should have told him that yes, Iraq was a mistake. No WMDs, no connection to 9/11, we were there because of lies, the increase of troops was a mistake because they shouldn't have been there in the first place!

Best wishes to Hagel, unlike so many in Congress, he knows what it's like to be on active duty, and perhaps he'll work hard to avoid a war, instead of working hard to start one like others before him have done.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
13. God I'd have loved to have seen him go "hell yes it was a mistake!" -- I think the MAJORITY of the
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:28 PM
Feb 2013

country realizes that now. But... politics. I actually think his answer was really good -- let history be the judge.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
7. Chuck Hagel was stuck in that chair for around 8 hours...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:19 PM
Feb 2013

To hell with the 'less than stellar' meme...

gateley

(62,683 posts)
11. Much like Obama's debate, though, it's the story in the media afterward that becomes the
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:24 PM
Feb 2013

accepted "fact". Yeah, I know.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
18. Exactly...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:38 PM
Feb 2013

I give Chuck Hagel credit, though, that Senator McCain, being unreasonable...

became the most played video of the session...

and not an angry retort by Hagel... (good man!)



 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
16. Any talking heads noted the irony that Repukes were against another Repuke?
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:43 PM
Feb 2013

Series-ly, pretty much shows the Nazis, er, Repukes, will not cooperate on anything.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
19. Hagel is extremely pro Veteran
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:42 PM
Feb 2013

I"m hoping for incredible advances in the treatment of our brave soldiers who served..........

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