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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:18 PM Mar 2013

OOPS: Financial Pundits Predicted The Stock Market Would Plunge Under Obama

OOPS: Financial Pundits Predicted The Stock Market Would Plunge Under Obama

By Aviva Shen

The Dow Jones reached an all-time high of 14,200 today, besting the pre-financial crisis record set in 2007. The robust gains may surprise many Wall Street analysts and cable news prognosticators who, just a few months ago, were raising the alarm that an Obama reelection would send the market into a tailspin.

During election season, experts warned that Obama’s intent to raise the capital gains, dividend and corporate taxes would hurt investments, while Mitt Romney’s business-friendly attitude would lead to a first day rally. It soon became “conventional wisdom” in the financial sector that the stock market would favor a Romney win, while an Obama second term would be disastrous...a chief economist at Gluskin Sheff praised Romney on CNBC as “a candidate that could more readily come to a compromise with the opposition” over the fiscal cliff deal, and would be “overall better” for the markets:

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Fox Business seized on market gains the day after Romney’s first debate performance as evidence that the stock market was rooting for a Romney win. After Election Day, the network lamented that Obama’s win caused a market dip, which was actually a reaction to bad economic news from Europe and the impending fiscal cliff fight in still-gridlocked Congress:

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CNBC market analysts also stoked the panic, hosting a Barclay’s Capital manager who suggested Obama’s reelection would spark a recession like the one in 1948:

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http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/05/1674271/business-experts-stocks-obama/

Mitt's predictions sucked.

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OOPS: Financial Pundits Predicted The Stock Market Would Plunge Under Obama (Original Post) ProSense Mar 2013 OP
Double oops, they also predicted runaway inflation Warpy Mar 2013 #1
Bwaaaaaaah hahahahaha malaise Mar 2013 #2
LOL! ProSense Mar 2013 #3
A conservative neighbor made a big deal about selling all his stock in January 2009. pampango Mar 2013 #4
Highest ever! MyOwnPeace Mar 2013 #6
I would rub in on his face with extreme prejudice. 2ndAmForComputers Mar 2013 #9
It's got to be killing him, I love it! Dustlawyer Mar 2013 #17
Oh yeah I remember that! Rex Mar 2013 #5
they just wanted another free-for-all for the rich, i doubt they believed what they said tk2kewl Mar 2013 #7
Obama's just "cooking the books" for all of these companies though, right? tarheelsunc Mar 2013 #8
Obama winning was supposed to be the equivalent of a comet the size of Texas hitting the earth Snake Plissken Mar 2013 #10
the right hates the guy in the white house....their predictions based on hatred. spanone Mar 2013 #11
Obama Actually Raised More Money from Wall Street Than Romney Mutatis Mutandis Mar 2013 #13
Mutatis, to me, you are stating the obvious. dotymed Mar 2013 #19
BIG OOPs! elleng Mar 2013 #12
No surprise. Financial investment advice is notoriously bad. mojowork_n Mar 2013 #14
They shilled for their pimps. Jack Sprat Mar 2013 #15
What can progressives predict to get Obama's attention? SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2013 #16
Shocking some of the wrongest folks in history are wrong again. TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #18
So, is this rally a reaction to the cuts from the sequester or to the president saying jwirr Mar 2013 #20
Mitt's Fb likes are still falling. Does that count? ffr Mar 2013 #21
kick BootinUp Mar 2013 #22

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
1. Double oops, they also predicted runaway inflation
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:31 PM
Mar 2013

because Obama was "printing money." Well, most of that money ended up with a very few rich men and there is still strong deflationary pressure on the economy, especially now that we're under Republican Austerity.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. LOL!
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:03 PM
Mar 2013

These clowns were damn near predicting the world would come to an end if President Obama was re-elected.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
4. A conservative neighbor made a big deal about selling all his stock in January 2009.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:10 PM
Mar 2013

And he had quiet a bit from what I understand. He has refused to buy any back since then. I think of what he has missed out on because of his blind hatred of Obama.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. Oh yeah I remember that!
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:13 PM
Mar 2013

And now what TODAY!? stocks are at an ALL TIME HIGH!?!?!

This crap being peddled by the M$M is getting old...if we are in such a HUGE financial crisis, how is Wall Street doing better then ever?

The GOP are the doomsayers of the middle ages. Clueless, crass and creepy.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
7. they just wanted another free-for-all for the rich, i doubt they believed what they said
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 03:17 PM
Mar 2013

just thought they could steal more if the other guy got in

spanone

(135,830 posts)
11. the right hates the guy in the white house....their predictions based on hatred.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 10:30 AM
Mar 2013

wall street should love this guy, but they can't bring themselves to get past the fact he's a democrat.

 

Mutatis Mutandis

(90 posts)
13. Obama Actually Raised More Money from Wall Street Than Romney
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:18 PM
Mar 2013
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/10/obama-has-actually-raised-more-money-wall-street-romney/43892/

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Eric Holder: Some Banks Are So Large That It Is Difficult For Us To Prosecute Them

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-06/eric-holder-some-banks-are-so-large-it-difficult-us-prosecute-them

http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/178_45/ag-holder-confirms-some-banks-too-big-to-jail-1057296-1.html

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Both parties, when it comes down to core outcomes are now wholly-owned subsidiaries of the bankster/military/pharma/big agra/media/production-line education/security state/prison/industrial complex. Their rhetoric differs on wedge issues, but at the end of the day, in the fullness of time, their flavours all merge into one giant shite sandwich that 99% of the chattel debt-slaves dine on for their quotidian corporate-approved daily sustenance of all forms.


The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to the doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can "throw the rascals out" at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy.

Carrol Quigley (Bill Clinton's Georgetown Mentor), Tragedy and Hope

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
19. Mutatis, to me, you are stating the obvious.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:07 PM
Mar 2013

I voted for President Obama and I am glad that he won, however it seems that we are given the "choice" of whatever we perceive as the lesser of two evils. I think we should be more interested in our (not "their&quot future, and party before people doesn't seem to make as much difference as it once did...
I remember that wall street had record highs in 2007, shortly before the too big to fail banks admitted some of their frauds and the market crashed. I hope that is not what is happening again. It definitely would not be from increased taxes on the wealthy or from financial windfall taxes which candidate Obama ran on. IMO, it would stem from the still under-regulation of these banks and corporations, the terrible wealth inequality in America along with the under-taxation of the wealthy. These were the main causes of the "great depression" (in which we did not bail the wealthy out and instead, made them suffer with the "peasants.&quot At least by doing so, it became obvious that tight regulations are required along with the cleansing effect it had on the top few percent.
IMO, we have been in another depression in which the elite were salvaged and only the bottom 80% have had to suffer while the rich get much richer.
I am not hoping for another market crash, only that real regulations and progressive taxes are, once again, levied on the elite. That would help prevent future market crashes and help to distribute the wealth more evenly.
It might also force "regular americans" to actively protest against unfair free trade agreements until they are replaced with fair trade agreements.
Most Americans are barely surviving despite the huge market rally. It just means more wealth for those who really do not need (and in most cases) do not deserve it.

mojowork_n

(2,354 posts)
14. No surprise. Financial investment advice is notoriously bad.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 11:34 PM
Mar 2013

The "insiders" -- the few at the top -- benefit from spreading disinformation.

They want the average person, or the small pension fund, or anyone that's not one of them
to buy at the peak. More for them. It's better to buy something when the price is low, and
sell when all the suckers have been lured in to artificially inflate a bubble.

It wasn't that long ago that someone showed if you took all of the investment "picks" made
by that loudmouth Kramer -- Cramer? -- guy and just did the opposite (bought puts or
shorted) all of his recommendations -- that was the surest way to make a buck on any
"investment advice" available to the ordinary person.

I'm sorry I don't have a link but I don't really follow that whole game anymore.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
15. They shilled for their pimps.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 11:48 PM
Mar 2013

It was a political campaign, but that doesn't mean they aren't lying and shilling for their pimps every day the market opens. Larry Kudlow is a prime example of a Wall St whore. His main job is to demean Obama and all Democrats all the time.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
16. What can progressives predict to get Obama's attention?
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:58 AM
Mar 2013

The end of Social Security and Medicare in our lifetime?

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
18. Shocking some of the wrongest folks in history are wrong again.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:55 AM
Mar 2013

And they are wrong because they are some of history's biggest liars, fabricating an Obama that doesn't exist and is a far greater benefactor to the predator class than he is an enemy and his biggest "assaults" the tepid Financial reform and the Wealthcare and Profit Protection Act were designed acorn to leaf to prevent them from suiciding on an overdose of their own avarice.

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