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Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:31 PM Mar 2013

Does the DOW's record actually mean anything?

The Dow Jones Industrial index consists of 30 companies that is updated from time-to-time. For instance from the last "record" high, I figure that four companies have been added to the DOW (replacing 4 companies.) So we're actually comparing an index that is calulated using differnt components than were included in 2006 when the record was set. It seems like an apples-to-oranges comparison.

The four companies added are UnitedHealth Group, Chevron, Cisco and Bank of America.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average#Early-2010s_cyclical_advance

Also, the FED's Quantitative Easing (QE) policies are probably fueling the increase since the rich banks, that QE is financing, has to put their money somewhere. Too bad that money, our money, isn't helping the real economy. That's the FUBAR component of the DAMN economy we all know so well.

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OGKush

(47 posts)
1. I heard the Dow has no reflection on the economy when it's Down
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:34 PM
Mar 2013

But when it's up it does reflect the economy.

So yes and no?

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
3. Once the sequester gets a grip on the economy, we'll see the market take another plunge....
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:35 PM
Mar 2013

....the second the big dogs start bailing out.

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
4. I don't think it means much. The S&P 500 would be more meaningful.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:36 PM
Mar 2013

And it certainly doesn't mean anything in regards to the average working person.


Lasher

(27,597 posts)
8. You're right, the S&P 500 is a better indicator.
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:46 PM
Mar 2013

And that is the index the media used to cite. Sometime during the GWB administration they switched to the DJIA.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
7. Yeah, its a good measure of what it measures
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:38 PM
Mar 2013

And what is it that it measures? Well, in a way it measures the security of the workplace of that 94% of the population that is fully employed, and it is basically very sound.

Johnny2X2X

(19,066 posts)
10. Yes
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:48 PM
Mar 2013

In general the DOW reflects stock prices as a whole. With the DOW at a record high and the S&P 500 within 30 points of their alltime record, anyone who has a retirement connected in any way to the stock markets is doing better.

My retirement account lost a lot of value during the Bush Great Recession, it has now recovered and then some. This meqans a lot to my future.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
12. Have you learned the lesson??
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:53 PM
Mar 2013

Now that you've made back your money you lost during the crash.........get the hell out before the next crash...........or are you still gambling your life on the stock market??

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
11. It could help employment
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 02:51 PM
Mar 2013

If more people feel secure or flush enough to retire, that could open vacancies for younger workers. I don't know how major or minor that effect might be, but it's not nothing.

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