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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRand Paul: "If the President is not going to kill them, why won't he say he's not going to kill"
This is a classic straw man argument.
Highlights of Rand Pauls filibuster against John Brennan thus far
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/highlights-of-rand-pauls-filibuster-against-john-brennan/2013/03/06/514791f4-8694-11e2-98a3-b3db6b9ac586_video.html
Paul (my transcription) :
"I really don't think he would do this, but the thing is is, I'm troubled by the fact that he won't tell us he won't...If he's a good man, and we believe him to be a good man who would never kill noncombatants in a cafe in Houston, sitting out in a sidewalk cafe, smoking... oh, that's right you're not allowed to smoke cigarettes anymore. Let's say they're sitting in a cafe, if the President is not going to kill them, why won't he say he's not going to kill them there."
Thank you onenote:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2469954
Rand Paul goes on to say something about ethic groups. Yeah, Mr. Civil Liberties.
Rand Paul, Supposed Defender Of Civil Liberties, Calls For Jailing People Who Attend Radical Political Speeches
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/05/31/232182/rand-paul-criminalize-speech/
Sen. Rand Paul: Civil Rights Act Was Overreach Because "I Can't Have A Cigar Bar Anymore"
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201201090003
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)"LOL. Still on this?
...I have an aversion to demagogues hypocrites and racists.
"Who the hell kicks their own posts?"
That never, never happens here.
Still, I do.
Logical
(22,457 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"You have become a parody of yourself. Entertaining though."
...who jumps into threads to post the above drivel or similar.
If you must know, I laugh my ass off at those comments ever chance I get. Guess what I'm doing?
Logical
(22,457 posts)"Oh I know what your doing. Why, I am not sure. We all wonder who is behind it."
...that when called out on drivel, an individual suddenly becomes "we."
I'm thrilled by the attention, really.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)who don't want to deal with the reality based information.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)another ignorant statement.
Logical
(22,457 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Or are you pissed that he's being called out?
Logical
(22,457 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)And somehow pointing this is your first comment in the thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2470214
Cha
(297,196 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)drones. He is right about the fact that each of us enjoys the right to habeas corpus.
Obama is a wonderful person. He is not going to kill people willy-nilly. But who knows what a future president might do with the power that Obama is claiming.
I don't like drones used within our borders except in remote places.
Here in my corner of LA, we have helicopters overhead so often that you go prematurely deaf just living here. Might as well live on an air force base. It's absolutely horrible.
We don't need drones too. Place police officers in cars. Don't let people in the country if they might pose a threat to security.
But drones we do not need.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Rand Paul is an idiot, but he is right on the issue of drones. He is right about the fact that each of us enjoys the right to habeas corpus.
Obama is a wonderful person. He is not going to kill people willy-nilly. But who knows what a future president might do with the power that Obama is claiming."
...the teabagger Senators aren't concerned with that: legislation http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022470744
Cha
(297,196 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)you had nothing but ignorant insults.
Cha
(297,196 posts)people to read it. That's who.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)seems petty to me.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)useful now.
has he started reading from Atlas Shrugged yet?
Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)to other Republicans who have questions that are really extra speech that allows him to rest his voice for a minute or so.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"] & R
Cha
(297,196 posts)all the gullibles.
silverweb
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I really was starting to think that the number of gullibles was falling as more people wised up.
Must have read one too many stories about ex-reTHUGs dissing the teabagger bunch. Silly me!
Nice to see you Cha!
Cha
(297,196 posts)just not around here, silver.
You too
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)They're just like the "I'm not racist or anything, BUT..." people.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)phleshdef
(11,936 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)a birth certificate. He keeps reframing the question regardless of how many times he gets a response.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)It's always about Rand Paul.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)day after day, he refuses to deny these rumors. Why doesn't he tell us he's not planning a neo-Nazi coup? Why doesn't he tell us he doesn't plan to molest children in the future? You really have to wonder what he's hiding
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)a.k.a. a thinly disguised appeal to race prejudice. From the OP:
Unpacking it gives us something like this:
"The (black) guys who took away your cigarettes and want to steal your guns have given themselves the say-so to take away your life whenever they please, and if they hate you as much as we hate them why wouldn't they?"
That's based on what I've read from Paul fils et père before, but I haven't been listening to the filibuster so if I've got him all wrong my apologies to any offended. But I'd be surprised if that isn't what he's up to.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)not from ProSense, in case that isn't clear. Rec'd.
Cha
(297,196 posts)I might be over-cautious but better safe than sorry!
Cha
(297,196 posts)Welcome to DU, ucrdem
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)But I would like to hear the answer to that question too.
But I guess Obama is too busy making nice with other teabagging Senators.
Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)..Why won't he say he's not going to be an asshat?
spanone
(135,830 posts)Heather MC
(8,084 posts)That was the ONE thing Mitt Romney said he wholeheartedly supported was the Drone program, i doubt he would have said that with such conviction, if his puppet master had not given him the ok to say it.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell joined his fellow colleague from Kentucky, Rand Paul, on Wednesday night in filibustering the nomination of John Brennan as director of the Central Intelligence Agency.
McConnell offered no hints as to his view on the administration's policy on targeted killing as it relates to United States soil, the issue Paul has been filibustering over, but he added that he will oppose cloture should it be invoked.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mcconnell-joins-filibuster-of-brennan-nomination
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)The Evil Black Man in the White House is being portrayed as loving drones, so they must be against it. Except that:
http://www.mediaite.com/online/eric-holder-sent-letter-to-rand-paul-on-obamas-authority-to-target-u-s-citizens-with-drones-the-answer-is-no/