Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:22 PM Mar 2013

The DCCC says it's OK to cut Medicare, just not too fast, OK?

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) doesn't seem to be staffed by real Democrats ...


from my email ...


(from) Kelly Ward <dccc@dccc.org>

Scuba --

Paul Ryan, in an effort to downplay the severity of the House budget he’ll be presenting next week, says not to "expect any big surprises." What a relief -- no big surprises?!?

Actually, word is we can expect a few big surprises in Ryan's budget.

Reports say that Paul Ryan will call for ending Medicare as we know it for America’s seniors.

According to sources, Ryan’s budget includes a plan to VOUCHERIZE Medicare for seniors younger than 55.

Finally, Ryan wants to squeeze 30 years of vicious cuts into only a decade. That would be brutal.


...

Thanks,

Kelly

Kelly Ward
DCCC Executive Director



(emphasis mine)

So Kelly, which is it: are you for Medicare for All, like us real Democrats, or are you just fine with spreading Paul Ryan's 10 years of cuts out over 30?
22 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The DCCC says it's OK to cut Medicare, just not too fast, OK? (Original Post) Scuba Mar 2013 OP
The DCCC mustv'e got its pig friendly lipstick shipment. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #1
That should make everybody feel better Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #2
That's not ProSense Mar 2013 #3
So why didn't she write .... Scuba Mar 2013 #7
Ever wonder what DCCC stands for? Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #4
This Is Simply Reference To Ryan's Previous Swill, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2013 #5
are there actually any real democrats anywhere anymore? i'm beginning to doubt it. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #6
No Shock colsohlibgal Mar 2013 #8
Maybe I'm missing something - but Kelly Ward doesn't seem to be endorsing the Ryan Budget el_bryanto Mar 2013 #9
See my post, reply #3. Scuba Mar 2013 #12
I guess I disagree that the fact that she didn't word it the way you would like el_bryanto Mar 2013 #13
I study language, did for a living for many years .... Scuba Mar 2013 #14
"30 years of vicious cuts" el_bryanto Mar 2013 #20
Exactly.. thanks el_bryanto Cha Mar 2013 #22
Scuba...think you read that post the wrong way..... KoKo Mar 2013 #10
See my post, reply #3. Scuba Mar 2013 #11
Had enough yet? nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #15
Long time ago ... Scuba Mar 2013 #17
They got the age wrong Pakid Mar 2013 #16
Learn to read. iandhr Mar 2013 #18
Please read my replies #3 and 13. Scuba Mar 2013 #19
I did. iandhr Mar 2013 #21

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. That's not
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:32 PM
Mar 2013

"The DCCC says it's OK to cut Medicare, just not too fast, OK?"

...what the letter states. The DCCC:

"Finally, Ryan wants to squeeze 30 years of vicious cuts into only a decade. That would be brutal."

That specifically states that the cut over 30 years are "vicious," and cramming them into a decade is "brutal."

Either way, they horrible cuts.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
7. So why didn't she write ....
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:50 PM
Mar 2013

.... "Instead of providing Medicare for All Americans, Ryan's new plan squeezes his previous cuts from 30 years down into ten. That's even more brutal than the plan America already rejected!"

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
5. This Is Simply Reference To Ryan's Previous Swill, Sir
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:33 PM
Mar 2013

His 'budget' in the last Congress featured cuts spread over thirty years. This new version compresses these into ten. Nothing in the comment you cite supports his cuts over either time frame, but simply remarks the new version is worse than the old. It is.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
8. No Shock
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:19 PM
Mar 2013

I get email and postal mail all the time from them but won't give them a dime and I told them why in no uncertain terms.

I don't want any of my cash going to DINO types. I do donate but only to real liberals, real democrats, not so called "dems" like Max Baucus...or unfortunately often Obama.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
9. Maybe I'm missing something - but Kelly Ward doesn't seem to be endorsing the Ryan Budget
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:22 PM
Mar 2013

Quite the opposite. So what's the issue?

Bryant

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
13. I guess I disagree that the fact that she didn't word it the way you would like
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:44 PM
Mar 2013

indicates that she's on the other side.

Bryant

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
14. I study language, did for a living for many years ....
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:48 PM
Mar 2013

... she had a chance to contrast different plans and she used it. She contrasted Ryan's 10 year plan with his 30 year plan, making his 30 year plan look more reasonable by comparison.

You may be right, of course. Perhaps she's merely incompetent.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
20. "30 years of vicious cuts"
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:54 PM
Mar 2013

"vicious cuts." Why doesn't that register?

People don't usually describe programs they support as vicious, do they?

Bryant

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
10. Scuba...think you read that post the wrong way.....
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:25 PM
Mar 2013

Just saying. The way it reads to me is that she's putting out the alert about how bad Ryans plan is. She was being sarcastic about it, imho.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
17. Long time ago ...
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:37 PM
Mar 2013

Been reading Drew Weston's "The Political Brain" about persuasion in politics. It makes it pretty clear that the national Party leadership is either horribly incompetent or actively trying to undermine the party that alleges to represent the People.

Pakid

(478 posts)
16. They got the age wrong
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:08 PM
Mar 2013

it now 59 and younger next stop 90 and younger. When does the DCCC start standing up for us?

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
18. Learn to read.
Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:49 PM
Mar 2013

"30 years of vicious cuts into only a decade. That would be brutal."

They are saying if the cuts are spread over 30 years it would be bad for medicare. They use the words vicious.

Ryan's plan over 10 years makes it even worse.

They are not endorsing cutting medicare.

I am starting to wonder if all these attacks from "the left" are trolls.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The DCCC says it's OK to ...